Hahashahahahahahaahah!
Nothing like standing on the sidelines and watching a well deserved kicking being administered.
Atari accuses El Reg of professional trolling and making stuff up. Welp, here's the interview tape for you to decide...
Legendary games company Atari has accused a Register reporter of making stuff up and acting unprofessionally following an interview earlier this year in San Francisco at the launch of its new games console, the Atari VCS. In that article, we were critical of the fact that the machine did not work, and that its chief operating …
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Thursday 21st June 2018 11:01 GMT Anonymous Coward
ATARI is like NOKIA, some chinese guy bought the company name
ATARI is like NOKIA, some bad guy bought the company name and recycles chinese stuff and put a brand label on it.
Rather naive people these days fall for such scams. --> Don't buy "ATARI" games and hardware and "NOKIA" phones in 2018. The original company died many years ago, the original products long gone. In case of ATARI (/Infograms), you can get the old games for cheap on eBay and use an emulator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari,_SA#Transition_from_Infogrames_Entertainment ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Mobile ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMD_Global (chinese "NOKIA" phones of the year 2018)
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Thursday 21st June 2018 11:26 GMT caffeine addict
Re: ATARI is like NOKIA, some chinese guy bought the company name
That's a tad unfair to Nokia. Basically all phones come out of China nowadays. Sure, it's not a 3210 indistructaphone, but the "N" series phones don't pretend to be. They're half decent specced phones in a milled aluminium shell that's more deserving of the Nokia name than any of the MS devices were. The name has been licensed by a company trying to make good from it.
Atari is a different matter. The name gets slapped on pretty much anything regardless of quality by whoever owns it this week. Similar can be said of the Commodore devices that appear every now and then.
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Thursday 21st June 2018 11:30 GMT Pseudonymous Howard
Re: ATARI is like NOKIA, some chinese guy bought the company name
Even though the 2018 Nokia phones come from China (just like any other vendor's phones, including Apple), HMD Global is a Finnish company. You can read this in the first sentence of the Wikipedia article you linked. A little bit further down you can even read that this company consists of many former Nokia employees.
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Thursday 21st June 2018 15:43 GMT JeffyPoooh
Re: ATARI is like NOKIA, ...
In my local Mall*Wart, I happened to notice something odd. The teetering stack of "RCA" branded LCD TVs in their boxes had a printed disclaimer (right on the packaging).
"RCA - This product is manufactured and sold by (LICENSEE COMPANY NAME). ..." etc.
I guess there's a new manufacturer of LCD TVs called LICENSEE COMPANY NAME.
I've seen similar branding antics with "POLAROID".
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Thursday 21st June 2018 12:59 GMT Tristan Young
Re: Hahashahahahahahaahah!
Atari needs a good kicking. As a former retail salesperson of Atari computers (520ST, 1040ST, Mega, TT, Falcon, Lynx handheld console), yeah, a good kicking, A) to see if they are still alive, and B) to encourage them to progress. Don't show up to a meeting in order to provide lots of, "Um, I don't know" and "I can't tell you" statements. No one cares about I don't know and I can't tell you. Successful hype isn't built on uncertainty.
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Thursday 21st June 2018 18:59 GMT FrankAlphaXII
Re: Hahashahahahahahaahah!
There was an Atari in between them too (the one that published Cryptic Studios' games before Perfect World Entertainment bought their IP) that was owned by a French games company that wasn't Ubisoft.
This Atari is a long way from either "classic" Atari or French Atari.
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Friday 22nd June 2018 22:48 GMT John Brown (no body)
Re: Hahashahahahahahaahah!
"Don't show up to a meeting in order to provide lots of, "Um, I don't know" and "I can't tell you" statements. No one cares about I don't know and I can't tell you. Successful hype isn't built on uncertainty."
I couldn't agree more, Artz is an arse! None-answers, sentences trailing off to nothing, having said nothing and so on. If anyone did a full semantic analysis of the interview and took out all the "noise" I strongly suspect Artz's "contribution" to the full 30 minutes would consist of about 30 seconds of repeated "I don't know"
My wife watches a lot of craft instructables on Youtube and the US based ones sound the same as this interview. It's as if they are terrified of silence, even when they have nothing to say. Is this normal in the US or am I just seeing the worst of it?
My hat is off to the Reg reporter for his extreme patience, surely one of his most agonising interviews. Might as well have interviewed the tea boy!
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Thursday 21st June 2018 18:11 GMT heyrick
Re: One Two Many
"seconde or deuxième (prefered usage when enumerating)"
Not quite. The rule is: You use "deuxième" when referring to the second of <many>. You use "second(e)" when referring to the second of two.
As we are talking about a language, there are of course exceptions: classe de seconde, seconde nature, and of course the Seconde Guerre Mondial will probably remain that even if there's a third attempt. I say probably because this time we have nukes and countries run by lunatics, but asides from that...
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Friday 22nd June 2018 18:04 GMT Contrex
Re: One Two Many
"The rule is: You use "deuxième" when referring to the second of <many>. You use "second(e)" when referring to the second of two."
Not quite a 'rule', according to the Académie française. One can, par souci de précision et d’élégance, reserve second for utterances where one only considers two elements, and only use deuxième when the enumeration goes past two. Cette distinction n’est pas obligatoire. You would always use second in certain expressions: seconde main, seconde nature, etc., and in job titles such as le second du navire.
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Thursday 21st June 2018 07:38 GMT RyokuMas
Oh how the might have fallen...
Back in the early 90s, the Atari STE was a giant among machines - probably the best all-round home computer platform across all arenas on the market at the time, (despite what owners of the Commodore Amiga Games Machine may say*).
Sad that the once-great name has been dragged down this far.
*Forget professional trolling, Atari and Amiga owners have been trolling each other since before "trolling" was a thing...
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Thursday 21st June 2018 10:44 GMT phuzz
Re: Oh how the might have fallen...
"How many on-board MIDI ports does your Amiga have?"
How many Atari owners used theirs?
Besides, it was only about £20-30 for a MIDI adaptor for the Amiga, which is inexpensive compared to the cost of the rest of kit you'll be wanting to hook up to it.
(This is why I don't get too partisan about Mac vs Windows vs Linux, none of them compare to the Amiga in my eyes)
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Thursday 28th June 2018 08:11 GMT pnony
Re: Oh how the might have fallen...
My CDTV—which is basically an Amiga 500 with a CD-ROM drive hacked onto it—has MIDI in and out ports. They've never been used, because the onboard sound was good enough for the time. Unlike the ST and its off-the-shelf bleeper chip which was embarassing by 8 bit standards, never mind their flagship machine.
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Thursday 21st June 2018 08:34 GMT A Non e-mouse
Re: Oh how the might have fallen...
Forget professional trolling, Atari and Amiga owners have been trolling each other since before "trolling" was a thing.
Bit late to the party you lot were. Us Speccy/Amstrad/Comodore 64 kids were well versed in trolling - I can assure you! (Those rich BBC kids never got involved)
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Thursday 21st June 2018 20:39 GMT Martin an gof
Re: Oh how the might have fallen...
So why were so many of the BBC Master Race addicted to Chuckie Egg and Frak! ?
Quality over quantity. Chuckie Egg, Frak!, Aviator, Revs and - who can forget - Elite. The Spectrum and the C64 may have ten times more games released for them than the BBC, but that didn't matter if you had the likes of the above.
Of course, price was another issue. I seem to remember anything in BBC format (software or hardware) costing about 50% more than the equivalent Spectrum or C64. Quality costs.
Speaking as someone who bought a rubber Spectrum 48k using most of my savings, and those of my sister, back in 1983 (I think - it was just after the price came down from £180 to £130) but carried on saving and sold it a couple of years later to help fund a BBC Micro B together with Christmas donations.
M.
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