back to article Huawei guns for Apple with Mac-alike Matebook X

Huawei won't unveil its new P20 flagship phone until the end of March, so it used MWC to showcase an envy-inducing laptop, the Matebook X. The Chinese giant is clearly gunning for Apple, which has irked its core customer base by adding gimmicks, removing ports and messing with the keyboard. So are Microsoft (Surface Laptop) …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    How do they do it ?

    The battery capacity is 57.4 kWh, that is the same as a Tesla 3,

    1. JeffyPoooh
      Pint

      Re: How do they do it ?

      "The battery capacity is 57.4 kWh..."

      Yep. That's ludicrous.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: How do they do it ?

        You would think a professional journalist should realize quite how ludicrous that is.

        1. Phil W

          Re: How do they do it ?

          You'd also think a professional journalist wouldn't contradict himself in the same paragraph.

          "Huawei used a more powerful Intel M core rather than the parsimonious U core because it reckons its battery and power technology is sufficiently superior to anything else on the market. The model I saw under embargo last week boasted an i7 8550U part at 1.8Ghz."

          Which is it? U or M?

          1. diodesign (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

            Re: Phil W

            Just like software written by professionals has bugs, articles written and edited by professionals have errors from time to time. It's fixed.

            As for the Intel U/M thing. It's a Kaby Lake R Intel Core M part, but has a U in the part name. Because Intel.

            From the official spec sheet, the 8550U is a Kaby Lake R part as opposed to a Kaby Lake U or a Skylake U.

            Chipzilla's naming of stuff drives me bonkers.

            C.

            1. Mark 85

              Re: Phil W

              Chipzilla's naming of stuff drives me bonkers.

              You're not alone. It drives many of us bonkers especially lately with trying to translate what's on the label of the machine vs. what Intel calls it for their bug* fix.

              *Yeah.. the big ones.... Meltdown and Spectre.

    2. diodesign (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      Re: How do they do it ?

      It's been fixed - drop corrections@theregister.com an email if you spot anything wrong.

      C.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: How do they do it ?

      Don't tell anyone, Tesla shares will dive if people find out there's only a laptop battery in their cars.

      1. Dave559 Silver badge

        Re: How do they do it ?

        But once you get your Tesla into orbit, it really does only need a tiny amount of battery power from then on…

      2. Missing Semicolon Silver badge

        Re: How do they do it ?

        Teslas really do contain laptop batteries - or at least, cells. The sooper-advanced hiteck battery pack is just a metric gajillion lithium 18650 cells - just like in your laptop. (see article here)

        Other electric car manufacturers actually made new automotive Li cells. Nissan for example.

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  2. d3rrial

    I hope this comes to Germany. I want one and I've been looking for a new ultrabook.

    1. peterm3
      Go

      Heise has a review of it, and a price of €1.500 so I think it is coming to the Bundesrepublik :-)

  3. myithingwontcharge

    Key question for any review:

    How well does it run a typical Linux install? For example my Thinkpad E565 despite being on the approved Ubuntu list, has no support for the weird internal broadcom card (and needs an ugly USB thing stuck in the side due to BIOS whitelists), which apparently is major issue with some newer Lenovo machines (seems the quality fade and cost cutting is kicking in - they get approval with one card, then swap it out mid-cycle on the same model).

    If this machine has full hardware support, it would be top of many people's list now Lenovo are jumping the shark. But we need to know for sure (and also have some guarantee that the manufacture's are not going to try the quality fade trick and change the spec without telling anyone).

    1. Martin Gregorie

      Beat me to the Linux question: I came to the comments section just to ask it.

      FWIW I'm currently running Fedora 27 on a Lenovo T400 - best laptop I've had and Fedora 'just works' on it. The large (for me) 1600 x 900 display is very nice too.

      1. Sgt_Oddball

        Yet my works t440p is the worst laptop I've had the misfortune to use... (seriously trying to convince the P.T.B. to let me use my ancient x200t which is far more capable and a much better typing machine) bleh...

        On the other hand, the better halves aging VAIO is...well barely functioning so might just have to treat her so long as it can last 5+ years.

        1. chris 143

          A recently acquired dell xps 13 installed a current Ubuntu without issue and I've yet to find something not working.

          Sooner or later I will but it's hopefully not something I'll miss too much

          1. kryptylomese

            XPS13 runs Ubuntu perfectly!

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "Key question for any review: ......."

      Even more key question for any review. Roughly how much will it cost, because if its price the same as a Mac I'm not interested in buying one no matter how good the specs.

    3. Chronos
      Flame

      needs an ugly USB thing stuck in the side due to BIOS whitelists

      Whoever thought this was a good idea and justified it by saying "but the FCC..." outside of the US needs shooting with their own excrement. I'm yet to see a laptop running any wireless NIC that can exceed 20dBm ERP with the stock damp string in the lid, yet their "approved" Broadcom 43xxx thing can be fitted with a yagi on a pigtail quite easily and will then end up non-compliant.

      No, it's nothing to do with wanting to restrict spares to overpriced OEM crap, is it? Bastards.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      weird internal broadcom Is the bane of your existence if you use linux. Hell there is no guarantee it will work right on any thing les then the newest version of windows when it was released . Under Ubuntu I had a broadcom wired nic disconnect and reconnect every 30 seconds. I have them work right under windows 7 then puke on 8/10

      1. gv

        Never buying anything with a Broadcom card ever again.

      2. Down not across

        Crappy broadcom chipsets

        weird internal broadcom Is the bane of your existence if you use linux. Hell there is no guarantee it will work right on any thing les then the newest version of windows when it was released

        Hear hear.

        I suppose one could reduce windows to minimal Virtualbox (or whatever your chosen virtualisation solution is) host if the hardware proves not to play nice with Linux or BSD natively. Not ideal of course but sometimes needs must.

    5. Missing Semicolon Silver badge
      Unhappy

      For us old farts...

      I bet there's no Win7 drivers either......

    6. badger31

      From the name MateBook, I assumed it was coming pre-installed with Linux Mint Mate, not Windows D:

      1. J. R. Hartley

        It really is a shit name.

    7. Mage Silver badge

      Not a Mac Clone

      Because it doesn't come with Mac OSX, but with increasingly annoying windows.

      Unless Apple is selling Mac OS for it or Linux Mint + Mate is perfect on it, it's nearly pointless.

      Also Lenovo's online agent for Ireland (Invoice is from Shannon) refuses to honour 2 year SOGA and will only refer replacement queries to wrong Lenovo technical support or even IBM UK.

      I'm not buying Lenovo again till they start implementing Irish / EU law on sales. What is Huawei SOGA retail sale compliance in EU like?

      1. Mark 110

        Re: Not a Mac Clone

        @Mage - what was all that about?

        Mac clone? Of course it doesn't come with OSX its not made by Apple. Article was talking about the hardware.

        Annoying Windows? Writing this on a windows/linux machine that hasn't annoyed me since I switched it on (windows) and doesn't come with thhe Apple idiot tax.

        Linux - fairly sure it will work - apart from the auto screen rotate when I put this Lenovo Yoga in tablet mode then everything else works perfect under both Ubuntu and Mate. Fairly sure Huaweis stuff will be much the same.

        I feel your pain if Lenovo aren't honouring law - go to a small claims court - you will be back with your money in no time. Would work the same for Huawei.

        1. Hans 1
          FAIL

          Re: Not a Mac Clone

          I feel your pain if Lenovo aren't honouring law - go to a small claims court - you will be back with your money in no time. Would work the same for Huawei.

          You missed the whole point, good manufacturers have good service ... expecting you to have to go to a small claims court when something goes amiss with the kit is piss-poor service, I would even go as far as qualifying it as fraud. I am slightly excessive? Basically, it means the company is betting on punters either to not know what the law says ortoo busy to go through the hassle of a small claims court..... iow BASTARDS (ala John Cleese)

          Companies like that DO NOT DESERVE ANY CASH not until they figure out how to provide adequate service.

  4. Rainer

    When?

    When will this be available for sale?

    1. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: When?

      and can it come with OS/X [or another non-MS OS] in lieu of Win-10-nic ???

      Because, if it has Win-10-nic, I ain't buying.

  5. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Thumb Up

    Looks good

    And the pop-up camera is a neat idea (the first practical one I've seen).

    But again, Can I put a nice clean Linux on there - to match the nice clean hardware.

    Oh, and it wasn't clear from the article. Does it have a 3.5mm headphone jack or not?

    1. King Jack
      Big Brother

      Re: Looks good

      Make sure you trim your nose hairs. That camera though neat is at the ideal angle to look straight up your nose. That angle will also make it look like you are looking down on anybody at the other end.

      1. Paul Crawford Silver badge

        Re: Looks good

        As opposed the to usual sort that make it look as if you are avoiding eye-contact by always looking "down" below it?

        Short of a screen-centre camera, you can't really win...

        1. Korev Silver badge
          Boffin

          Re: Looks good

          Maybe they could use two cameras and use the same technology that they use in Rugby matches to move the "virtual camera" so it appears that you're looking at the other person.

          Some Boffinery needed by much smarted people than me -->

        2. rob 47

          Re: Looks good

          Centred camera would be best, but top of screen is "better" than bottom.

          A high camera angle above eye level will emphasise the face which helps people appear slimmer, however a low camera angle below their eye or chin is not very flattering for most people. You end up looking up their nostrils, and the body appears larger than the head and face, which is generally not desired by most people.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Looks good

            The obvious thing then is to use perspective correction in the camera drivers, or even to have thought this through in the lens design and deal with it optically. Wouldn't be particularly challenging for those who specialise in such things?

      2. Sgt_Oddball

        Re: Looks good

        Get a laptop desk stand and I'm sure the angle thing would become less of an issue (and at least it can be angled separately to the screen. Nothing quite like angling a screen so you can be seen whilst only being able to see some glare off a light or the day star etc etc...)

        1. Mage Silver badge

          Re: laptop desk stand

          Mine is a thick hardback only under rear end of the laptop. Nice keyboard angle and better screen height.

      3. MojyWojy

        Re: Looks good

        ...and don't even bother trying to type while on a meeting unless you want people to think your office has been invaded by giant spider like creatures.

        1. TRT Silver badge

          Re: Looks good

          I think I'd prefer my screen to have a notch taken out of the top to house the camera. It just makes so much sense not to have just the 1 rectangular screen when you could have three rectangular screen portions.

      4. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: Looks good

        "That angle will also make it look like you are looking down on anybody at the other end."

        So, ideal for PHBs then?

      5. Androgynous Cow Herd

        Re: Looks good

        If I am on a webcam, I *AM* looking down on anyone on the other end

      6. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
        Headmaster

        Re: Looks good

        That angle will also make it look like you are looking down on anybody at the other end.

        Just as I intend.

        That nincompoop from management better learn his place.

        OTOH, the size of this camera does not make me feel safer about being spied on. One realizes how small these are...

      7. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Looks good

        'That angle will also make it look like you are looking down on anybody at the other end.'

        that's exactly what i'm doing, though.

      8. Teiwaz

        Re: Looks good

        Make sure you trim your nose hairs. That camera though neat is at the ideal angle to look straight up your nose. That angle will also make it look like you are looking down on anybody at the other end.

        Maybe people want nasal view cameras...

      9. ldjfaskjla

        Re: Looks good

        First rule of portrait photography is don't shoot up into your subjects face unless you want them to look scary or foreboding.

        1. Mark 110

          Re: Looks good

          Does anyone even use the camera? Seems like a waste of space on a laptop to me. I must have webcammed for any constructive purpose (couple of job interviews) about 3 times ever. And the job interviews I used a USB webcam as the laptop cam made me look very very very scary . . .

          Much easier to and better to pull a usb cameera out of the drawer / bag when its needed.

          Guess people mileage varies . .

    2. TReko

      Re: Looks even better at 3:2

      if you install Linux, you can hopefully get a refund of the Microsoft tax.

      It is also great that the laptop has a 3:2 aspect ratio screen

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Looks even better at 3:2

        if you install Linux, you can hopefully get a refund of the Microsoft tax.

        I wish you good luck with that. As far as I can see, MS has managed to tax any PC made, even the ones it has no business taxing.

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