back to article Brace yourselves, fanboys. Winter is coming. And the iPhone X can't handle the cold

Apple's $1,000 iPhone X may have trouble operating in the winter weather. This is according to multiple complaints from owners and an admission from the Cupertino idiot-tax operation itself that, in cold temperatures, the OLED touchscreen on the shiny new handsets can become temporarily unresponsive. We're told that, when …

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  1. J. R. Hartley

    Oh dear

    And I had read that Foxconn had really made a decent iPhone this time too. Ah well. The Apple Reality Distortion Field will prevent this from becoming an issue.

    1. Disgruntled of TW
      Pint

      Re: Oh dear

      @J. R. Hartley - you're holding it wrong. Seemples.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Oh dear

      Keep he phone nestled between your butt cheeks. Problem solved!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Oh dear

        http://newsthump.com/2017/09/12/iphonex-to-include-revolutionary-arsehole-recognition-technology/

        1. Kiwi
          Pint

          Re: Oh dear

          http://newsthump.com/2017/09/12/iphonex-to-include-revolutionary-arsehole-recognition-technology/

          Sadly I can only upvote once!

      2. 404
        Joke

        Re: Oh dear

        'Keep he phone nestled between your butt cheeks. Problem solved!'

        Your warning is much much too late... Apple has already been there...

      3. Dagg Silver badge
        Mushroom

        Re: Oh dear

        Keep he phone nestled between your butt cheeks. Problem solved!

        Not if the battery does a Samsung! Then you really will have a flaming a*hole

    3. JimboSmith Silver badge

      Re: Oh dear

      Actually I'm far more concerned about El Reg using the term "W!nter !s Com!ng" given how DCMA happy HBO appear to be over the phrase happened happened https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/08/winter_is_coming_hbo_dmca_trademark/

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Oh dear

        It's fall (or autumn in Britain), and we are no longer allowed to warn people?

    4. Howard Hanek
      Happy

      Re: Oh dear

      Nothing that ten years or so of advanced yoga can't correct.

    5. macjules

      Re: Oh dear

      Well, that's sales in Scotland buggered then.

    6. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Oh dear

      Early signals are not good. massive channel stuffing for iphone8, with nobody buying and mothballed production lines at P* F* and G*. Apple were hoping to unmothball those lines for iPhone X production, but actual sales (not shipments) are massively under forecast.

      Seems the theory that nobody wanted the iphone8 because the X was coming turns out to be totally untrue, how long before investors grasp this, who knows.. (but then Microsoft share price keeps going up whilst their products tank)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Gimp

        Re: Oh dear

        @ Butt-cheek AC

        Apple's famously forward-thinking design is way ahead of you. Why do you think they rounded those iPhone corners!!

    7. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Oh dear... but I have a plan!

      Rather than release a pesky software update - always a risky move - or get Foxconn to fix the hardware - already enough suicides there, all Apple needs to do is convert their data centres to run purely on diesel and thereby raise the Earth's temperature by a few degrees.

      Everyone wins! iPhone X users get to use their phones outside, we all get nicer weather, dogs no longer need those odd little padded winter coats, and we can turn down the heating a few notches. A shame about the Great Barrier reef and all that, but I went there in 2007, so I've already seen it, and for the rest of you there's always Blue Planet II. It looks fantastic on a 4K TV. Of course it used to look much better in real life, but so did Angelina Jolie. That's progress, folks.

      1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
        Devil

        Re: Oh dear... but I have a plan!

        Just out of interest, when did you dive on Angelina Jolie?

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Clearly you're heating it wrong.

  3. bazza Silver badge

    But..

    B, b, bu, bu, but it's so beautiful, it must be perfect, mustn't it?????

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: But..

      It is perfect ... if it doesn't work then it doesn't work in a perfect manner that you should enjoy and respect.

      1. sambaynham

        Re: But..

        Incorrect. If it doesn't work, it's because you're not believing hard enough.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: But..

      B, b, bu, bu, but it's so beautiful, it must be perfect, mustn't it?????

      Nope, but this illustrates with perfection why I never buy new hardware concepts* unless they have been in the field for at least 6 months. Besides, it saves queueing :).

      * Not that I was planning to buy the X - not a fan of the whole facial thing.

    3. JimboSmith Silver badge

      Re: But..

      You have to wonder where aPple got their design ideas for a notched screen from don't you. https://masaryk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/vertu-constellation-2.jpg

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Facepalm

    Let's see...

    You're holding it wrong....

    You're looking at it wrong...

    And now it's : You're touching it wrong ?

    1. Paul Crawford Silver badge

      Re: You're touching it wrong ?

      Oh dear, I hope you did not have visions of Garry Glitter Jimmy Savile Kevin Spacy on hearing that...

    2. lglethal Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: Let's see...

      Perhaps a truly Jobsian Answer would be :

      You're location is wrong...

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Let's see...

        You're location is wrong...

        His command of English is better than that. It would be "Your location is wrong". FIFY.

        1. TRT Silver badge

          Re: Your location is wrong

          Too much negative language.

          "Here at Apple, we believe you should be in a better location."

          1. hplasm
            Happy

            Re: Your location is wrong

            "Here at Apple, we believe you should be in a better location."

            Traslation: "Why are you trying to leave the Apple shop?"

            1. TRT Silver badge

              Re: Why are you trying to leave the Apple shop?

              Please. PLEASE. Let me go! I need to go to work to earn some money to pay for all this crack-cocaine-tech.

              Your reasoning is sound. You may leave, but don't forget your Geek-Bar appointment next Saturday at 11am. Failure to show up will result in forfeiture of your kidneys. Have a nice day.

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      2. JimboSmith Silver badge

        Re: Let's see...

        Well how cold does it ever get at Cupertino, no wonder they weren't aware of this.

        1. Warm Braw

          Re: Let's see...

          how cold does it ever get at Cupertino

          Having been a Mac user back in the System 6 & System 7 days, I would imagine that many of their more seasoned developers should have significant experience of devices freezing.

          1. JimboSmith Silver badge

            Re: Let's see...

            That made me laugh out loud. Have an upvote.

  5. Irongut

    "planning to attempt a fix with an upcoming iOS firmware update"

    Running Coinhive in the background to keep the phone warm?

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    OLED should be fine

    The actual visual display technology is irrelevant, because that doesn't register touch. It will be the digitiser and or the capacitive overlayer. I accept the vendor is probably the same company for all, but this is a tech web site isn't it?

    ...........

    Oh, alright, it was a tech web site.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: OLED should be fine

      Was going to say, Samsung has been using OLED tech for years without any temperature issues, so it looks like el Reg has grasped the wrong end of the stick somewhere along the line!

      1. Scroticus Canis
        Flame

        Re: OLED should be fine - Samsung and OLED tech

        Of course their touch screens are not affected by the cold, the burning batteries keep them warm.

        1. Dave 126 Silver badge

          Re: OLED should be fine - Samsung and OLED tech

          Curious. The digitiser is not related to the display type (OLED vs LCD)… though it's possible that Apple have implemented their digitiser differently on the X (maybe to bring the pixels closer to the glass or somesuch).

          There's mentions going back years of capacitive touchscreen losing sensitivity in cold weather. The following mentions it:

          https://www.ruggedtabletpc.com/blog/bid/95373/Things-To-Know-About-Rugged-And-Non-Rugged-Touch-Screens

    2. a pressbutton

      Re: Oh, alright, it was a tech web site.

      ... slowly turning into into slashdot

      ... shudders

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Read that yesterday, tried it today

    Was 20F when I left the house, and mine did not have any issues when I stepped outside. Then I put the gloves on, because 20 is ridiculous for this time of year when I'm not properly acclimated...yikes! It was in the 80s less than three weeks ago, I want that back!!

    1. Nolveys
      Headmaster

      Re: Read that yesterday, tried it today

      Was 20F when I left the house

      Can you please express that in Rømer?

    2. heyrick Silver badge

      Re: Read that yesterday, tried it today

      ? "in the 80s" is the music of my childhood or the temperature below which tea mustn't be served at...

      1. Francis Boyle Silver badge

        I was going to suggest using the official scale

        but I just checked and apparently the El Reg unit of temperature is the Hilton. Compared to that the Rømer scale is positively up to date.

    3. Cynic_999

      Re: Read that yesterday, tried it today

      "

      Was 20F when I left the house ...

      "

      That's one heck of a capacitive touch panel. Be careful when it's charged up.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Reparative actions - breaking news?

    "The bright side, said Apple, is that among its younger ranks – employees under 30 – women have better representation at 36 per cent and underrepresented minorities 31 per cent, including half of all new hires."

    I get emailed tech newsletters and scan them for interesting topics. Each newletter will have 12-20 topics. Twice now I've been struck by the obvious 'placement' of articles, reports by summer interns at Google, where the placements made certain you would notice "lookee, lookee, females!"

    Two in one newsletter, three in another. I'd not noticed articles about Google interns a year ago. Somehow it wasn't important before? With all being women, somehow the importance seems to be just... appearances? These were all interns, and the work was valid and useful, but somehow the work didn't seem to match the importance these were given most ostentatiously.

    The motivation here was oh so obvious, and done so ham-handedly. Question is, the women here - are they the hammers or the nails? Hey, no objectification here, right?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Reparative actions - breaking news?

      A few years ago there was an article on ElReg on UK university engineering course which commented that the brochures invariably featured 3 example students of which 1 would be female - but the article went on to explain that prospective applicants should not assume that 33% of students would be female! When I took my son to an open day we experienced this first hand ... applicants to several different courses all attended a single presentation from Vice Chancellor etc before splitting off for per subject sessions. We'd already seen applicant for the mid-wifery course (100% female) going to a seperate session then at end of main presentation courses were called out and people went off ... one course was "Media relations" (or somethinng like that - anyway was 90-95% female) and at end it was engineering applicants left ... 90% male!

      1. Tom Paine

        Re: Reparative actions - breaking news?

        ...and?

      2. Missing Semicolon Silver badge
        Happy

        Re: Reparative actions - breaking news?

        My daughter pointed out, when looking at Uni brochures, that all of them tended to feature carefully diverse attractive friendship groups, chatting and laughing in a pleasant-looking field or garden.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Reparative actions - breaking news?

      Twice now I've been struck by the obvious 'placement' of articles, reports by summer interns at Google, where the placements made certain you would notice "lookee, lookee, females!"

      Here in the UK, the BBC has a royal charter to do that "painfully obvious prioritisation of an almost but not quite irrelevant article involving women/transgender/minorities" stuff.

      Which is faintly amusing, given that the BBC is clearly fingered for being ageist, sexist, classist, politically biased, nepotistic, and willing to sweep all dirt under the carpet about its own "stars" behaviour.

    3. Missing Semicolon Silver badge

      Re: Reparative actions - breaking news?

      "Dear Diversity hire"

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Apple looks pretty much the same: pasty, white and male...

    And how does The Register staff stack up in the diversity front then? Let’s have some stats, boys.

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