The NAKED truth: Why flashing us your nude pics is a good idea – by Facebook's safety boss

My nudes

Every time I upload pics of myself, Facebook asks if I want to tag Burt Reynolds in the photo.

"where a trained staffer will verify the photo"

What are the qualifications for this job? And how do you "train" for it?! I would love to see the textbooks on this subject. I assume they're illustrated.

How hard can it be to change the sig. of a lossy JPEG?

Without using AI, I don't think there's any reliable way to identify a JPEG file that has been through some of the most basic modifying.

WTF???

"Humans rather than algorithms will view the naked images voluntarily sent to Facebook in a scheme being trialled in Australia to combat revenge porn."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/41928848

This is comical

What about multiple-partners, multiple-devices, span-of-time, plus any lost-devices or accidentally-deleted photos etc.. Its more likely that the 'victim' does NOT have all the images even to hash. Plus, even if Facebook falls back on its photo-tagging / matching AI filters, AI has a long way to go:

"AI image recognition fooled by single pixel change"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41845878

Better option: Follow the Facebook ex-President:

Delete your Facebook & Snap accounts now peeps:

~

Facebook founding president sounds alarm - BBC News -

"Sean Parker (Napster) "no longer used social media as it was too much of a time sink” “I use these platforms, I just don’t let these platforms use me”

~

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41936791

I'm going to register facebook-image-block-request@gmail.com and advertize it around....

Staffer they said, mmmok...

So how long it'll take until lovely chaps from 4chan that have too much free time on their hands write a bot that will submit few million pictures an hour for poor staffer to go through ?

abusive scumbags

"The best solution would be if abusive scumbags could stop being so awful."

or you know, start by not dating or showing yourself naked in front of abusive scumbags?

There are plenty of brainless people who straight out love to date scumbags (they call them bad boys) because they are great at creating excitement by being dominating. They then feel traumatized after the scumbags start abusing them. (the exception are those who got tricked by the scumbags who hid their true self) The worst part is they would, after ending one scumbag relationship, find yet another scumbag to date.

Whatever facebook do will only be a patch for the wound, it doesn't fix the real problem or stop the scumbag from posting elsewhere. The victim can only fix the real problem themselves, by learning from their mistake.

YECH !!!! While I'm speaking from the MALE point of view, I CAN make one startling conclusion from my many explorations of the naked female form.

Conclusion:

Men are mostly ugly naked! and Women mostly ARE NOT UGLY when naked!

From pure artistic point of view, our male parts while EXTREMELY FUNCTIONAL ain't exactly the most aesthetic of forms while the female form in its entirety is MOST DEFINITELY AESTHETIC! But since most men don't give a rats-arse about sending naked photos of themselves to ANYONE, I can see where this request will end up!

Sooooo.....Facebook asking people to sending naked photos of themselves is an exercise in FUTILITY as it will BE MOSTLY MEN who would actually EVEN CONSIDER RESPONDING to this request --- I know of almost no reasonably sound-minded woman who would EVEN THINK of responding!

Just get a computer algorithm to produce synthetic rendered photo-realistic naked humans and train the software on those!

Microsoft PhotoDNA

They are using Microsoft PhotoDNA that also are being used by Gmail, twitter, google, facebook, Microsoft, others, to identify child pornography. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhotoDNA

How long before ...

... one of the "trained staffer" units manages to l install a screen grabber (or whatever) on their corporate porn viewing computer, and manages to collect quite a stash?

How long after that will it be before a miscreant manages to grab the stash? Or the "trained staffer" shares with his buds, who in turn post them online outside of Facebook's reach?

I'm guessing less than two months for the first, and a week or ten days for the second and third.

The wife just read ElReg's article on Facebook's plan. Her words, verbatim: "Fuck that! Do the idiots in charge of Facebook really think we're even stupider than they are?".

Enough said, I think.

I think this idea is flawed in many, many ways.

But there is one flaw that leaps out first.

Why does a human need to look at the picture first?

Why can't the system automatically create the hash, and then only have human review when there is a match?

The system can still discard the image. If there is a hash match, there will be a second copy. And at that point the image has been posted, so the humans reviewing will be limiting the 'damage' of the public release, rather than actually doing what the victim is trying to prevent (people seeing them in a compromising position).

Welcome

The best solution would be if abusive scumbags could stop being so awful.

This must be your first day using the internet.

What could possibly

go wrong ?

One of my oldest hostfile entries is:

0.0.0.0 www.facebook.com

Absolutely

viewed by a "specially trained representative from our community operations team," to check the photos are actually legit nude snaps

I'm surprised that in this day and age, a major tech company would actually claim it's necessary to have a human in the loop. Surely that's what machine learning is for? Seriously, even without going to machine learning, Google and others have had porn filters for ages, and they're pretty reliable most of the time.

In the very least, I'd suggest a two-tier system: A first check is done with an automated detector, and if the image is not detected as a nude, then the user is asked for permission for an actual human to look at it and check the actual nakedness. This way, most pics can be submitted without anybody having to see them, and Facebook even saves money on the manual work.