Facebook's send-us-your-nudes service is coming to UK, America Facebook has begun conducting a pilot where it solicits intimate photographs of women – and it will soon offer the service in the United Kingdom as well as the US. Anxious exes who fear their former partner is set on revenge porn will be urged to upload photographs of themselves nude. A hash of the nude image is created and …
Is there a job going then, where these images are vetted by a human for inclusion in the barring scheme?
Might be... I wonder how many applicants they'll have. Will FB pay the vetters or will they have to pay FB for the privilege much like the old Woody Allen movie?
Icon... I'm checking my pockets for change just in case.
That's no excuse. They could easily do that check at the point they find a clash. The whole point of this nonsense is that they're supposed to be detecting when another matching image is uploaded in the clear.
Either way, you can try uploading someone else's photo and, either way, at the point they're considering removing it they'll be able to see it. The difference is that if you hash it yourself on your own machine, they can't see it if nobody uploads it in the clear.
I cannot believe that this protocol is being seriously suggested as a way of protecting people's privacy.
Doubt that would work, since you could just change one pixel and the hash would change. Meaning you could have 2,000 separate hashes for the same image.
For example, services that flag child pornography when it's uploaded use a special software (PhotoDNA) which converts the image to grayscale, then breaks it down into a grid and calculates a number per grid until they wind up with something like 1000,481,0,0,251..., meaning that modifying the image is pointless.
People would be better off getting the numerical sum of their nudes with that.
But the problem with that is, regular people aren't allowed access to that software unless they're a LEA or popular service like Facebook. (Which sucks, as I have a large anime artwork collection I'd love to sort through far more easily to remove duplicates.)
But the problem with that is, regular people aren't allowed access to that software unless they're a LEA or popular service like Facebook. (Which sucks, as I have a large anime artwork collection I'd love to sort through far more easily to remove duplicates.)
https://github.com/opennota/findimagedupes
You're welcome.
So let's get this clear. One of the world's largest marketing concerns wants everyone to upload naked pictures of themselves in order to help prevent revenge porn? What is the ratio between the number of sex pests versus the expected actual image upload?
This reeks to me of "You are all just sheep who will do exactly what we tell you to do, now shut up and upload your naked selfie"
Fortunately, no-one would want to be exposed to my back-end infrastructure.
From what little I've seen, there's no (back) end to the segmented interests of the web. There's probably armies of people who'd want to take a gander at your back passage, or mine. Now there's a thought for those supping on warm cocoa.
Out of shame rather than modesty, I won't be sharing pictures of my bits with Facebook: the list of less trustworthy organisations is about one long. Not to mention that I don't have an FB account. For those who do have an FB account, make sure Zuck uploads pics of his own nether regions first.
Oh indeed, there are people who want nothing more than pictures of your naked feet. Who don't want to see the whole breast, just cleavage in closeup.
Pron really does cater for the niche groups. Back before all this there were peeping Toms. Now there is no need.
"The solution is simple, never take photos of yourself nude and never let your "friend" take pictures of you nude."
...and women shouldn't wear ripped jeans, or walk alone after dark. Better still put them in a burka - even when having a bath. See where such apparently self-imposed restrictions lead?
There's nothing wrong with the sight of the naked human body - except in the minds of those who have been conditioned to be disturbed by their own "dark" thoughts. The blackmailers - for that is what they are - are handed their weapon by society's likely condemnation of their victim.
Whilst this might be true, it really is up to me what I want done with images of me, isn't it? And if I want to wear a burka, why not? I don't think it's a question of societal condemnation - I mean, there's lot of society that condemns wearing a burka, right? But I'm not bothered if someone posts a picture of me doing that online - revenge ultraconservatism. Right on!
Absolutely STUPID comparison.
"There's nothing wrong with the sight of the naked human body".
However if you don't want YOUR naked body online, don't give anyone a copy and don't store it in the cloud etc. You'd not parade naked on your front lawn? Or sit in the window naked?
"You'd not parade naked on your front lawn? "
It is not illegal in England & Wales jurisdictions. Any police action against a naturist is usually deemed "Public Order". You are apparently responsible if a neighbour threatens you with violence because of their own "dirty" thoughts.
The ripped jeans etc are examples where how women behave perfectly normally is deemed by some to be "asking for it". See example in Egypt recently.
I share the opinion that there's nothing innately shameful about the naked human body. Unfortunately a significant proportion of the populace think otherwise, and our legal system often tends towards the puritanical. If you have a naked picture leaked onto the internet you get to choose whether to brazen it out, or to accept the shaming that other members of society will inevitably try to fling your way - those are pretty much the only options.
Advising people not to allow naked pictures to be taken of them therefore isn't victim blaming, it's just good advice. The reality is that once there is a picture of you naked it's very easy to lose control over where that image ends up (whether that's by a "friend" leaking the image online, or a hacker exfiltrating the images). If you're OK taking that risk then go ahead - as long as you're an adult making an informed choice about it.
There isn't anything wrong with the naked human form. But I don't want pictures of my naked body circulating on the Internet, so I don't let anyone photograph me naked and I don't take any photos myself.
If other people want to make photos/films of themselves naked or having sex, that is their business, but it should be clear to them upfront, that those images might end up on the Internet. If they don't want those images plastered all over the 'Net for the rest of eternity, they should think twice before letting those photos/films be made...
Peephole cameras is something else, but you probably don't have them to upload to Faceplant in the first place. And, as others have said, hashing locally and uploading just the hash makes a lot more sense, although it will deprive the pervs at Faceplant of their jollies.
@TRT
I came to say something similar.
Until the person (male or female) has had those naked photos displayed/shown to people/uploaded without their consent, they are not a "victim" of anything.
They are a person of whom a naked photograph exists. not a victim of anything at all.
While i'm 100% against such things, the language used here is odd. You can't preemptively "be a victim". You're not a victim unless the naughty photos (which are normally taken WITH consent) are then shared minus the consent.
- Spoofed sites --> so people end up uploading there nude shots to a non-Facebook site
- Man in the middle attacks --> Pics get snaffled on the way to Facebook
- Hacks of Facebook --> Pics get grabbed at Facebook ("they dont store the pics" - my a$$ they dont! Who has ever heard of the Facebooks and Googles of the world EVER deleting ANYTHING!)
- misconfigured settings making the Pictures freely available --> Because that NEVER happens... *rolleyes*
Bugger me, this has so many Avenues for failure...
> The photo will have to be shared across across a common nude photo platform and made available to other social networks.
Are you suggested there should be a network standard for this?
The Common Naked Photo Interchange Protocol
Reminds me of the time a museum - it might have been the Kensington Science Museum itself - set up an exhibit where people could type messages into a computer and have them displayed. Very new fangled stuff in those distant days. Somebody decided to compile a list of NSFW words so the computer could spot them and blank them out on the display. Then some bright spark - who is probably a tech billionaire by now - found the file and displayed its contents for all to see.
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