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Pack up, go home to your family: Google Drive is flipping out

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Just A Reminder

No one cares about your data as much as you do.

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Re: Just A Reminder

If you really cared about your data, you'd not store it in the cloud.

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Re: Just A Reminder

Cloud storage/backup is not a problem...just don't make it your only backup!

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i was scoffed at by senior management for keeping our data onsite where i have 2 insependent backups and a resilient hot storage all in separate buildings. but we wouldnt need this expensive infrastructure in rhe cloud they said. one day there was an outage of internet on our primary 100mb line. the backup wireless is only 10mb and our cloud apps were slow enough to show mgmnt the error of their thoughts. never mind an outage of the actual provider.....

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We reached out to Google for additional information

No you didn't. You asked them.

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Re: We reached out to Google for additional information

Now if you feel that you can't go on

Because all of your data is gone ........

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Re: We reached out to Google for additional information

I wonder if it's the result of the Drive File Stream roll out and the announced death of the Google Drive app as announced in this googleblog post.

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Obligatory...

It's working okay for me!

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Re: It's working okay for me!

How would you know? You were out boozing all afternoon.

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Thousands

Out of over 2bn users. Remind me what percentage that is?

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Re: Thousands

Well, the number of thousands isn't specified and the article is only quoting a single source.

As it's working for me the percentage might be as high as (2,000,000,000,000 - 1) / 2,000,000,000,000 x 100 which in my pedantic example is roughly 99.99999999995%

I'm bound to have made a mistake in the maths, I've been drinking this afternoon!

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Re: Thousands

"I've been drinking this afternoon!"

Tea has that effect on you?!

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"Out of over 2bn users"

How many of those general Google users also use the Drive product?

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Re: Thousands

You can deduct me from the 2 billion and you can also deduct me from any of Microsoft's cloudy offferings, including the Outlook bits like driveby or whatever it's called.

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Re: Thousands

*water* can make me suck at math...

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My FTP repo, OTOH,

is still working flawlessly.

A lot of people use GDrive here despite it being forbidden (it's -usually- more reliable than our in-house solution TBH, but it is a confidentiality / infosec hazard)

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Re: My FTP repo, OTOH,

Is it? Supports 2FA, supports removal of downloaded files from devices, can lock out devices, can enforce device patch level and anti-virus policy, supports immediate lockout of expired users, supports restrictions on download and print. Logs every file access, and whether it was downloaded or just viewed in a browser.

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Re: My FTP repo, OTOH,

"Supports 2FA,..." <snip list of things GD does.>

But do you know which jurisdiction the data is in at any one time?

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Re: My FTP repo, OTOH,

even if the server(s) hosting the files is(are) in Russia or Switzerland, that's still under USA jurisdiction... well, at least according to them

e.g.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/26/supremes_microsoft_warrant_case/

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/20/google_must_provide_overseas_gmail_data/

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Rubbish anyway

Google Drive office productivity apps are rubbish anyway. Use anything else.

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No outsourced cloud here, but I do feel for those who are using it. Then again... maybe I should just gloat and smirk? Maybe it's just me, but I'm not comfortable letting others hold onto (and probably mine) my data or worse, lose it, corrupt it, etc.

I suspect I feel this way because of the dot com bust and the many folks who lost massive piles of stuff (for some value of "piles") when many companies went bust and shut down their servers overnight. It was a hard lesson which seems to have been lost to history.

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Do your own - it's safer

I have my own cloud - a Synology box - with my own data limits in the terabyte range. And I manage it, so no reliance on anyone else :)

Alan [feeling smug!!]

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Re: Do your own - it's safer

Really? You have your own cable laid? And your own connection at LINX? And your own power station? Duplicated in case of fault. And your own oil refinery for that power station? Wow!

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Re: Do your own - it's safer

You should have gone boozing with Keef this afternoon, then you might be a touch less tetchy.

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Re: Do your own - it's safer

"Really?"

If his Synology box is in house he wouldn't be affected by loss of an internet connection and power loss is neutral: if he lost that it wouldn't matter whether cloud storage was up or not because the rest of his office facilities would have been taken out.

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Re: Do your own - it's safer

Then it's not doing what Google Drive does; multi site resilience, global access and real-time sync.

Compare apples and apples.

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@Alan Sharkey

I love my Synology NAS. :)

Still use google drive and note that it's working though.

No issue though, right? I mean how often do you need access to your 3rd or even 4th level of backups for not really essential data? ;)

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Re: comment by Adam 52

Well, in my case I do have a power station. It is called the Sun. Like an increasing number of people, I have some PV Panels on my roof (2.4KWh). I also have a Battery system 34KWh. This is primarily used to charge my car (Nissan Leaf) but has plenty of electrons to spare. Even today with the heavy overcast skies the battery is being charged.

Like many, I have my own LAN (three different VLANS) and my QNAP NAS is backed up another system (SYNOLOGY) that is located 60ft away in my Garage, using 2x 1GB Ethernet Links burried 5ft down and separate from the power feed.

so yes, doing it myself is safer.

Many El Reg readers (including you perhaps) could too if they wanted to.

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Re: Do your own - it's safer

Multi site resilence, global access and real-time sync are worthless if Google has a problem with your data or your local internet access is down. It is hard to beat multiple on-site backups paired with an off-site backup. One company I provide guidance insisted on putting a critical application "in the cloud" (no option for local backups or local cloud service). In the last year, that application was down two times for an entire day each time because of an issue with the cloud service servers.

In the last 20 years with all local servers, they were down for one day to deal with a ransomware attack that came in through an e-mail attachment. Most of that time was to ensure that none of the other computers and servers on the local network were infected with the ransomware.

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@rmason

Synology? have you even READ their EULA? Their management software and firmware can come with "audit" spyware built-in and it's written right there in the EULA that you have to agree to when you first configure the NAS. Their software = agent authorized by Synology. The built-in remote kill switch is also covered by the EULA.

https://www.synology.com/en-global/company/legal/terms_EULA

Section 7. Audit. Synology will have the right to audit your compliance with the terms of this EULA. You agree to grant Synology a right to access to your facilities, equipment, books, records and documents and to otherwise reasonably cooperate with Synology in order to facilitate any such audit by Synology or its agent authorized by Synology.

Section 15. Termination. Without prejudice to any other rights, Synology may terminate this EULA if you do not abide by the terms and conditions contained herein. In such event, you must cease use of the Software and destroy all copies of the Software and all of its component parts.

"component parts" = your data. it's a component part of the NAS.

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video streaming coming to Google Drive for organizations

just saw one of the key features of the new tool

Stream files on demand

since Youtube was given a facelift recently, that video streaming feature in Drive will probably have a similar interface to the new Youtube.

https://support.google.com/a/answer/7491633

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Re: video streaming coming to Google Drive for organizations

since Youtube was given a facelift recently, that video streaming feature in Drive will probably have a similar interface to the new Youtube.

You mean the YT interface that loads a white page with a blank black rectangle for the video, and takes another minute or two to decide to load more of the page? Yeah, not excited about that prospect.

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