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A banking IT expert orchestrated an insider-trading caper that raked in millions of dollars for him and his pals, it was claimed on Wednesday. Between August 2013 and April 2017, Daniel Rivas, 32, worked for an unnamed New York bank in its capital markets technology division. He was hired as a consultant for a new banking …

  1. Chris Hills

    What do you expect

    When you hire people who are just as greedy as you but smarter. Alas not smart enough to not get caught.

  2. Gordon Pryra

    Got to admit he did a good job though

    Least he spread the wealth around a bit :)

    1. Florida1920

      Re: Got to admit he did a good job though

      Least he spread the wealth around a bit :)

      That's what got them caught. It's all about the Benjamin. Benjamin Franklin said it: "Three may keep a Secret, if two of them are dead."

  3. Potemkine! Silver badge

    NSA is watching you

    the trio are accused of collaborating via an unnamed app that encrypts messages and then destroys them after they were read.

    Good try, but not enough...

    1. MiguelC Silver badge

      Re: NSA is watching you

      I bet that if they go to trial and their lawyers ask how the SEC got their intel, the case, or at least that specific accusation, might suddenly be dropped...

  4. Hans 1

    Stock exchange is like a casino, if you are Joe Public and keep winning the jackpot, security will get after you ... if you are in the higher circles, however, different story ...

    1. Phil W

      It has a lot more to do with how much you cheat the system by I think.

      This guy could very likely have got away with it if he'd stuck to just doing it for his own gain and not shared the info with so many others. A few thousand dollars a year extra would pad his pocket nicely and be low enough value for him to either not have been spotted, or if he had been spotted quite possibly not investigated/prosecuted.

  5. 2Fat2Bald

    there are plenty of good ways to communicate data securely that don't need an app. Or go low tech and use a burner or public phone......

    I wonder why they added that speculation?

  6. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge
    Paris Hilton

    parasites!

    So why do we need a stock market again?

    Sure people can buy something , sell it for more , and they made money. Great , but they didnt *do* anything that benefits society. Seems like cheating.

    A futures trader has difficulty expressing himself at the 'old lady job justification hearing'.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: parasites!

      So why do we need a stock market again?

      Try thinking, it may help you with this question and many others in your life.

      But to spell this one out, the reason we need a stock exchange is because the vast majority of people and companies don't want to commit their capital to a single company for the rest of time. And why should they? If there's no stock exchange, there's no way out, other than illiquid non-market trading.

      So we have limited liability joint stock companies, we allow these to have their shares traded and listed on stock exchanges, and NOBODY HAS TO TAKE PART IF THEY DON'T WANT TO.

      There IS quite a high (albeit difficult to quantify) societal value in having a mature secondary equity market precisely so that people can make equity investments of differing duration, and get a decent value when they sell. Defrauding the market is what this crime is about, but whatever you think of equity markets, they're actually very useful to a modern economy. Imagine you were an early stage investor in Uber. Now imagine there's no secondary market, so your investment is locked in. And you're tied to the rollercoaster, with no way out, merely hoping for some dividends before it crashes. Is that really the scenario you want?

  7. JimboSmith Silver badge

    Between August 2013 and April 2017, Daniel Rivas, 32, worked for an unnamed New York bank

    Everyone else knows and has been publishing that that he worked for REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED can we not mention his former employer here?

  8. Dabooka

    Why always back in a winner?

    Why not lay off against other trades, and use the knowledge to lay off against them? The guy's cleever enough to avoid electronic comms, but misses the bleedin' obvious smoking gun.

    You know what I mean, that $2m profit could've been $138k for example, against a load of losses and static trades. Would anyone have looked and noted if that was the case? Can anyone with such knowledge explain why that wouldn't work, or at least reduce the risk?

    1. Ken Moorhouse Silver badge

      Re: Why always back in a winner?

      Who knows how many fraudsters are doing precisely that. However, it does seem to be a psychological trait that these people become over-confident in their ability to game the system over a sufficiently long period of time, or brag about it to the wrong person. It only takes one red flag trip-point to trigger and that is it. How will you know if such a threshold has been tripped? You won't, there is no audible alarm, but once it has, data can be painstakingly collected until such time as the evidence is there to turn up on your doorstep and interrupt your plans for the next x years.

  9. steve 124

    What's going on here?

    Wait, 11 comments on an article where someone got rich cheating the system and no leftist has implicated Trump in some way?

    <<checks URL>> is this still the same Register?

    <<wonders off chuckling mildly to myself>>

    This guy wasn't as slick as he thought or he'd still be doing it.

    1. wayne 8

      Re: What's going on here?

      Problem is that he moved beyond greed to pride.

      Impressing his girl friend's father, then impressing his bros.

      Also, Rivas didn't make the required pay to play payments to sit at the table.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    His associates got greedy, and they also failed to make losing bets to help cover things.

    anon for... any number of reasons.

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