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Funnily enough, charging ££££s for trashy bling-phones wasn't a great idea

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"In the meantime, those who want to boost their own self-esteem by paying out the nose for a smartphone can take solace in the reports that Apple's next iPhone will come with a price tag of more than $1,200 (£916)."

Which is about 1/10th of the price of a dumbphone from Vertu, and you can do a lot more with it.

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Slippery slope...

You almost sound as if you're defending the price of the new iTat.

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Actually the large sapphire screen on their smartphones was brilliant, probably the best bit. I saw a video on line of someone attempting to scratch a vertu screen. Really gave it a good go and something that would have done in gorilla glass (at the time) didn't leave a mark. Was always very impressed with that and hoped it would make it into more mainstream phones. The fact that Apple tried and failed suggests we won't see it anytime soon. The Concierge was also supposed to be quite good, the same firm also do the Coutts concierge i believe.

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Since phones became all screen that meant less opportunities for personalization. No room for diamonds buttons and the like. The back cover offers less opportunities. Difficult to build a business on bling phones today.

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Bet I can do more with my 128GB Mi Max... including go on a weeks holiday with the money I saved!

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And if the Tories keep flapping their mouths and causing Sterling to sink it could easily be £1200 by the time it launches.

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"paying out the nose"

What? Is this an Americanism? Blimey. Over 'ere we pay "through" the nose, or pay out ...I dunno... rope?

Learn something new ...

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Re: "paying out the nose"

I'm an American, and I'm more used to the phrase "paying through the nose" as well. Sounds more like a case of someone trying to make sense of an absurd metaphor.

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Re: "paying out the nose"

Actually, we say "paying out the ass". But since you Brits can't even say ass properly, I don't blame the author for mixing the metaphor.

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Re: "paying out the nose"

Downvoted for being an arse hole.

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Re: "paying out the nose"

Strangely enough, I grew up saying "through the nose (Palo Alto, California), When I got to Blighty for the first time (Bude), my friends at the Primary school used "out the nose".

Ain't nowt daft as t'English Language ... thankfully. When you think about it, this place would be awfully boring if we all spoke^Wtyped the same dialect and with the same slang.

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> since you Brits can't even say ass properly,

Over here we pronounce it donkey.

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Re: "paying out the nose"

There is a reason that Bottom was an Ass ... Not that I know anything about British Literature, y'unnerstan' ;-)

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> "Actually, we say "paying out the ass". But since you Brits can't even say ass properly, I don't blame the author for mixing the metaphor."

Brits, and Aussies for that matter, know how to says ass. It's just we know the difference between a donkey and a sphincter.

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Re: "paying out the nose"

Give the American a break - he makes a half decent joke then received a barrage of down-votes.

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Re: "paying out the nose"

I broke the downvote counter the last time I made an observation about how rounders is a pathetically inverior version of American baseball.

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"Brits, and Aussies for that matter, know how to says ass. It's just we know the difference between a donkey and a sphincter."

Indeed ...

And anyone else who speaks proper Queen's english, for that matter.

But ...

Wouldn't that be 'anus' and not 'sphincter'?

Have a good weekend.

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Re: "paying out the nose"

As this seems to be the emerging topic for the weekend, book tip:

Nick Cave - And the Ass Saw the Angel

(And before you get any ideas, the title is a biblical quotation from the Book of Numbers, Chapter 22, Verses 23-31: "And the ass saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way, ...")

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Re: "paying out the nose"

"I broke the downvote counter the last time I made an observation about how rounders is a pathetically inverior version of American baseball."

Downvote for "inverior".

From a non-native speaker.

(Mine's the one with the copy of "English for Runaways" in the pocket.)

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Re: "paying out the nose"

I broke the downvote counter the last time I made an observation about how rounders is a pathetically inverior version of American baseball.

Really? I could have expected that response maybe for Cricket, but not 'rounders' I thought only preteens played that...bu then I don't pay a lot of attention to sport, their might be a professional 'series', leaugue or 'world championship' I don't know about.

No one would get that impassioned about an amateur game... You don't hear the Hockey fans belittle Polo much....

I also got the impression most americans were less baseball focused in favour of 'football' the last few decades.

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Re: "paying out the nose"

Out the arse or through the nose.

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Not sure whether that's an American thing or the NFL getting focus from the UK. Thinking of the NBA, getting virtually ignored here, but go to France and it's a big deal. I have no idea what's actually the most popular in the US. Baseball - which is the one with the all American "World Series" IIRC - certainly doesn't seem to get much following from Europe.

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"No one would get that impassioned about an amateur game... You don't hear the Hockey fans belittle Polo much...."

Field Hockey is just an inferior form of Hockey played without ice and only one arm.

Polo is just an inferior form of Field Hockey played by arses riding large donkeys.

FTFY. Didn't want to, but you asked for it.

Mine's the one with the tuque hidden in the sleeve.

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"Wouldn't that be 'anus' and not 'sphincter'?"

Oh, that's just horiiblus!

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Re: "paying out the nose"

...rounders is a pathetically inverior [sic] version of American baseball.

That would have been funny if it wasn't for the fact that, a) the original game, Stoolball, has been played in England since the early 1500s, and b) Rounders used to be called Baseball (among other names) when it was played in England at least three decades before the USA even existed.

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Re: "paying out the nose"

Stick and ball games with "safe zones" for runners go back at least a couple thousand years, long before the concept of "England" existed. In Wales[0] they still play a variation called "Baseball" that goes back centuries.

That said, as a Yank who enjoys both sports, I'm equally happy watching quality Cricket or professional American Baseball. But if I had my druthers, I'd rather be playing County Cricket. We're trying to get the sport to catch on here in the US, but it's been a bit of a slog ... the the way I see it, if the Soccer folks can make headway, Cricket has a shot.

Yank football is conceptually a good sport, but the salary cap and arbitration ruined it.

Basketball sucks. End of discussion.

Ice Hockey is the sport of the gawd/esses. If you don't believe me, learn to play it.

[0] For values of "Wales" that include Merseyside ...

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Re: "paying out the nose"

Hockey (in North America at least) is, according to one well-known person, ice-skating, playing with a buck, and fighting all mix into one "sport". Icon: Coat because ice is cold.

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Re: "paying out the nose"

Hurling is ice hockey without needing pesky ice.

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"Wouldn't that be 'anus' and not 'sphincter'?"

For you perhaps. I went to a very posh school where it was pronounced "arnus".

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and the pesky armour.

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Now, I've seen all this talk about noses, sphincters, and donkeys here...

And I know language can be a difficult, varied, and curious thing...

But now you start talking about stool-ball...

I know you Brits always were a bit weird, but talking about strange hobbies...

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- "But since you Brits can't even say ass properly,"

We are quite capable actually, we also know the difference between a donkey and one's poop chute!

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Re: "paying out the nose"

Hurling is similar to slow-motion hockey lacking the necessary ice.

(The armor is kinda required; the human body isn't really designed for the kind of forces that can be generated when moving several times normal speed.)

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Not Ugly Enough

These blinged-out phones are not up to the standards of ugly often desired by the near super rich and super rich. Just look at their newly built homes and you will get the idea.

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Well the BBC article states:

"One technology analyst said Vertu would have faced competition from companies offering to customise other smartphones with precious materials."

Which strikes as spot on. Anyone who has the money will want something tailor made for them by a boutique, rather than mere pricey commercial goods.

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You could customise your vertu though with exotic leathers and skins etc. that was one of the selling points.

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Re: Not Ugly Enough

As you can with any phone for a lot less.

It's called a custom case.

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Well the BBC article states: "One technology analyst said Vertu would have faced competition..."

Thank fuck they didn't say "would of". There's hope for us yet.

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So you can lose money by underestimating the taste of the public.

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*shakes head* I never thought I'd see the day...

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Android?

Well, there's your problem.

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Re: Android?

Right, you're not rich and stylish enough if you can't afford an iThing. The Internet says so.

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Oh come on

It'd be easy to gloat but come on, if you had a great idea to attempt to help very rich trust-funded tat-collectors fork over their cash by the suitcase on some daft idea of yours, you wouldn't do it? I know I bloody well would!

Shame, I really wanted Vertu to work as it proved beyond a doubt that there was several born every minute, not just one.

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Shame, I really wanted Vertu to work as it proved beyond a doubt that there was several born every minute, not just one.

It wasn't just making costly phones by adding bling, they also partnered with service providers without bothering to research the consequences.

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I believe there was an app on android that did nothing but cost $1000. THe point was just to show off

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Wasn't android, but yes there was.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Rich

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Thank you Adam as I could not remember if it was for the Android or IoS.

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Yew Shure ?

"Funnily enough, charging ££££s for trashy bling-phones wasn't a great idea"

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/08/apple-market-capitalization-hits-800-billion.html

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In hindsight plan failure is obvious.

Blinged out Android --> perceived as cheap and common.

Blinged out iThing --> perceived as exclusive X very expensive --> super duper exclusive --> desirable

Hence very high "We wants if" factor.

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"wasn't a great idea?"

Sooo.....this idea worked great from 1998 to pretty recently...and wasn't a good idea?

Hmmm...or is this an example of people knowing nothing about the business they are in, screwing things up? For example, BHS ?

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