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"there's more premium original content than consumers can even watch"—ok, so it's not just me: I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one noticing the sheer volume of programming and wondering how anybody could find time to watch even a tenth of it.
While I remain bemused by folks discussing all the things they've watched—do they have Hermione's time-winder gadget, so they can consume five days' telly in a single weekend? where do people get the *time*??—my more immediate question is, when does saturation and fatigue set in?
If it's always been the case, broadly speaking, that only 3% of TV was worth watching, then the sheer volume of stuff being produced does explain why there's also a lot of good programming out there. You can and should ignore the "reality" mind-rotting garbage, soap operas, quiz shows, cheap-as-shyte "documentaries" and the rest, but you still end up with more good things than there are hours in the day. If there's too much even of the good stuff for anyone to watch, how can it be profitable to make more of it? This is a genuine question: I'm curious to understand how so much telly gets made, and watched, and still pays for itself.
Fatigue is already setting in.
I'm reading a slowly increasing number of blogs that are tired of the same old repeating storylines and character flaws... Marvel appears to be ahead of the fatigue pack.
With each day that passes, I'm convinced that "Get A First Life" had a valid point.
I've scan-read a few blogs that are bored of the numerous Marvel TV shows, with one exception -'Legion'. It's run by Noah Hawley of the excellent Fargo TV series, and is a wonderful homage to the 1960s in terms of set design, costume and music.
tl;dr: TV execs aren't all stupid and are willing to allow diversity of style and tone even within a studio's imagined world. Just as the movie Deadpool was a black comedy with Fawlty Towers and Viz references, though still ostensibly an X-Men movie.
'If it's always been the case, broadly speaking, that only 3% of TV was worth watching... ...I'm curious to understand how so much telly gets made, and watched, and still pays for itself.'
The 3% you consider worth watching won't be the 3% I consider worth watching.
"This is a genuine question: I'm curious to understand how so much telly gets made, and watched, and still pays for itself."
That brings the possibility that we're inside the bubble similar to that of dotCom era. If Apple would join the fray now, it probably won't bankrupt itself by losing a couple of billion, but it may drain the market so others would get less income, and that may topple some of them.
Over the past 2 years I've watched maybe 30 hours of TV. Back in the 1960s and 70s I probably watched that much in a week. Watching TV was a lifelong habit, until 2 years ago when I decided I was just fed up.
Unless you're a Nielsen family you're watching less TV than ever. (Being surveyed makes you watch more.)
What is killing TV is not too much TV programming available.
It is leaving people out of audiences, leaving people without content they desire.
There are plenty of viewer hours left unused, taken up by the internet, by reading, by going for walks, by socialization. The problem is the viewers the lack of content aimed at the viewers who have those available viewing hours.
I still have a cable TV subscription. The cable network gave it to me for free when I called up to cancel -- it just rarely ever use it. (The TV is directly free, but they offered me a package discount on my phone and internet equal to the cost of the TV packages and PVR rental. So the TV is free so long as I don't cancel anything.)
"If it's always been the case, broadly speaking, that only 3% of TV was worth watching,"
From my perspective, you're being very, very generous.
For my entire lifetime, I can count the number of must see shows on one hand, and still have a finger left over*, and probably another dozen shows, at best, that were worth wasting time on.
*And those were animation, AKA cartoons.
It's funny how so called 'Children's shows' actually aim at a higher mental level than crime dramas, sit-coms, 'reality' shows,and and other so called 'Adult fare.**
**You were expecting a joke about which finger, weren't you?
Te-he. How many times has this been said in the past only to be totally wrong eh?
Actually you might be right this time.
However, there is space for the right service at (importantly) the right price.
With Amazon, Hulu, Netflix etc all having a monthly fee which is on top of your Broadband/Mobile fee, I see a space for apple to become a one stop stop where instead of three, four or more $9.99/month fees, you can see the shows you want without the monthly subsctiption. A sort of pay-as-you-view. Then you can mix and match content from a range of services and only get one bill that would be less than the individual subscrtiptions.
That obviously needs the likes of Netflix etc to play ball. Do they want more viewers of their top content at a reasonable price (and probably less pirating) or are they only after more subsctiptions?
We don't know as yet.
Apple will fail as a competitor to NetFlix etc because the studios don't want to deal with Apple. They know only too well that Apple could take over Hollywood if they wanted to and do it with Cash. They'd rather bargain with services that need their output and won't (unless it is Amazon) be able or willing to take them over. Job (and the casting couch) preservation means a lot to Hollywood as they fight to keep their loss making (according to their accounting rules) empire going.
Lots of food for thought.
"only get one bill that would be less than the individual subscrtiptions"
And here is the flaw in your plan.
There is simply no way I can see any Apple product being sold for less than a single competitor yet alone a bunch of them.
I use Freesat / Netflix total monthly cost 9 quid if I were to add Amazon my monthly cost increases to 18 quid a month.
How can Apple provide me with the same services as both of those for enough of a saving to me to make me switch? I'd say they can't.
single sign on is not a deal breaker for me, I'm quite happy to switch between apps because its not exactly complicated and they are already both in the same place IE my set top box.
I prefer the recent XKCD hypothesis: we had 60s music and fashion because it's easy to label, ditto 80s music and 90s music. Since 2001 we haven't had an easy phrase (naughties music? Aughties music? Teensies music?) to describe where we're at!
Yeah, I didn't understand that line either. Apple destroyed the album model by selling everything as singles. But if they hadn't done it, someone else would - and arguably Napster did it first and Apple salvaged the music industry by giving people an easy/legal way to pay for singles they had already become used to downloading.
I think streaming has hurt the music industry more, due to the very low royalty rates. That's certainly not Apple's fault since they were late to that particular party, and they're still paying a lot more per stream than competitors like Pandora (probably because the contracts were originally negotiated by Beats, and they had a much smaller user base)
Apple is now trying to renegotiate to get the same rates as those competitors, and has a similar scale, so the music industry needs to design if they're going to let Apple pay less, or charge the others more. They have no one to blame but themselves if they're negotiating contracts for X and then saying "X is too low".
If anyone is going to destroy the TV business its Netflix. They're so dominant they're like Apple was with the iPod and iTunes, and now that they're creating so much original content the studios are becoming very nervous about the clout they're exerting. They might like to see a few other deep pocketed players like Apple and Google get involved to reduce Netflix's market share and outbid them for some of the content they're buying.
Apart from the iphone Apple are very much yesterdays news.
Their tablets are failing, laptops are expensive and mid-spec at best and there's been nothing innovative from them for years.
They're just a one trick pony now and when the isheep wise up and realise how poor and expensive the iphone is they will be doomed.
Can't wait for the day. Good riddance. Their wanky hipster patronising staff will have to get new jobs at Starbucks.
Oh yawn! I'm getting really bored of stuff getting judged based on the technical spec sheet. Firstly, as to the price. I get my Macbook Pro from work, as many do — the price in insignificant next to my pay and conditions :-) Builders for example will often have a much more expensive set of tools than I do. Secondly, the specs. The specs don't tell you what a joy to use the trackpad is, compared to any Wintel laptop I've used. The specs don't tell you how well Timemachine works for backups and restore. The specs don't tell you... well perhaps you get the idea. It's not like it's a 486 with 2MB of RAM, that would be rip off. No, it's a modern machine with a decent OS that works very nicely. I'm also a big fan of Linux and I believe Windows has its positives too, but judging everything by the individual parts (and quantity of them) is not a recipe for getting a good machine (oh look, this Dell has a fingerprint reader!!! and its got some extra Megahertz!)
No touchscreen
No foldable tablet mode
No replaceable HDD
No upgradeable RAM
Shallow keyboard that is impossible to actually type on
Last year's memory and processor to make Apple even more margin
Stupid touch bar that adds no value whatsoever (except to the price)
You get the idea .....
No touchscreen
I have no desire to touch my laptop's screen - I don't want my fingerprints on the screen, let alone anyone else's greasy mitts! When I ordered my current laptop last fall (an HP 17t) there was an option to get a touchscreen, which I declined. It cost $50 extra, but I would have refused it if it was free.
No foldable tablet mode
Again, don't want, and most Windows laptops don't have this either. Are they all useless too? I guess you thought all laptops sucked until a couple years ago??
No replaceable HDD
No upgradeable RAM
I agree this sucks, but probably 1-2% of users would ever contemplate replacing/upgrading their HDD/RAM, so it is a Reg reader problem, not an average user problem.
Shallow keyboard that is impossible to actually type on
You mean like the shitty keyboard on the Surface Pro's type cover?
Last year's memory and processor to make Apple even more margin
Yeah, wouldn't want to miss out on Intel's annual 3-4% performance gain!
Hehe, always fun to see someone criticise Apple for Intel's release schedule!
I believe the Macbooks (and indeed Microsoft's Surface range) have since been bumped up to Intel's latest suitable CPUs, but at the time of the computers' release (in the the run up to Christmas) there hadn't been enough time to incorporate the latest silicon with sufficient testing.
Except that as a content creator, the current Macbook Pro range is completely and utterly useless.
The keyboard is awful to type on, and I can't plug in anything at all without a stack of adapter dongles and there are no docks - just adapters.
An octopus doesn't make a decent laptop.
In the Windows and Linux world, I can pick and choose from a great many laptops, many of which have all the connectivity I need and most of which have better keyboards.
Some of them also have nicer trackpads - though in general I just use a travel mouse which is both 10% of the cost and far better ergonomically than the Apple mouse.
The actual macOS is quite good - albeit often painfully inconsistent - but the hardware is just terrible.
Apple is only in the tech news these days for discussion what outrageous amounts they can get the 'uniformed' spendthrifts to pay for old technology.
I say 'uninformed', I mean uninformed about technology. I think Apple's customers tend to be very art and fashion contest. You know the type:
Q: "What kind of car do you drive?"
A: "Its minimalist 2018 slate coupé."
There is no such thing as "much watch tv" or must watch anything.
I've not watched ANYTHING in 15 YEARS,no films,no dvd's,no tv,nothing,it's all pap for the mindless to switch their brains off even more,I gave up trying to find decent documentaries on you tit years ago,when I realised there aren't any that are worth the effort of searching for..
Do I feel like I'm missing out on anything,no,good books are still being published faster than anyone can read them,there are huge collections of old radio to pick from,seeing as how nobody is making much good new radio content now..
Breathing is a much do event,watching moving pictures is not..
With increasing pain in my arms and neck from spinal problems, reading for any length of time is a hard work and painful experience. I really would love a better collection of viewable and enjoyable programmes. Sadly I find the chore of wading through huge volumes of listing to be daunting. While I have had access to one subscription service for a year or two I have yet to find anything to draw me into watch. Yet another 'not quite a me too' is less than something I desire. Something to generate and hold my interest would be nice but to date Apple, (and pretty much everyone else to a lesser extent) have served a different demographic. Their 100% output never overlaps with my 3%. viewing want Maybe one day something good will happen, but I am not going to hold my breath for something to lighten the entertainment darkness. Perhaps the issue is that too many offerings mine the same mother load so their output falls consistently into my no thanks 97%.
> Perhaps the issue is that too many offerings mine the same mother load so their output falls consistently into my no thanks 97%.
Here you go, Elvis Goes Lambing (in the Cotswolds):
https://youtu.be/2-oWlQh93v8
You're welcome! I guess I'm making a case that more people can create and distribute video content than ever before, so something might hit your yes-please 3%!
@Dave 126 I have struggled to decide, were you being sarcastic or snide?
I am aware that some sort of 'tube' has a range of crap 'videos', though happily they achieve the same lack of interest as most of the main stream offerings, but if they float your boat, happy sailing!
@ Richard Jones
I was aiming at more playful than sarcastic or snide, and whilst I thought the link was unlikely to hit your 3% I thought it equally didn't qualify as a another Police Procedural, talent show or
Super Hero adaptation!
As regards the ergonomics of reading - which can encourage the spine to stay in one place for too long - I wonder if two Kindles can be harnessed together, so that the reader will scan from page to page? On a wider accessibility front, certainly the ability to display any book at larger font sizes benefits some readers, where once such titles were kept in a specialist section of the bookshop or public library.
Richard Jones 1,
A couple of suggestions for you.
You can get one of those tables on wheels they have in hospitals - where the table goes over the side of the bed - or in this case arm of the chair. Some can be set at an anlge, rest book on table at good reading - job's a good'un. Means you don't have to hold book. I've tried various solutions like this over the years, other things to try are sitting at a table with a portable lectern to hold your book - or something like a recipe book stand. Depends on what way you find most comfortable to sit. If bed is better with propped pillows, then you can get beanbag things which hold a book or tablet at the right angle.
If the neck problems make it hard to do, then I'd suggest audiobooks. Someone like audible.com? You pay a monthly sub and can listen to what you like. I think Amazon may do a similar service.
As for hunting through all the available telly content, there must be good websites that discuss review this stuff. I know my brother did this about 10 years ago, where he read about what was the best American telly on a discussion website, then ahem 'sourced' it via the internet.
Richard, maybe check out your local public library. Many libraries have CD and DVD collections. I watch a lot of Criterion Collection DVDs and blu-rays. They tend to have digitally restored director's cut BFI Top 100 or other top film, and in the extras there will be 2-3 interviews on the historical setting, making or meaning of the film, biography of the director, etc.
I find this sort of content more interesting that what is broadcast.
Turner Classic and Silver Screen try to emulate this, but they don't spend the bucks to get the content digitally restored, so the video is seldom clear.
So much of what is broadcast today is either a remake of what was an inspired classic, or so sticks to rigid PC gender and race stereotypes that I can predict the ending 1/5 of the way into it. No suspense, no good writing, no good acting. Excluding TV for women and TV for kiddies, today's TV depends on special effects and violence. That and the actors are all made-up to look like they're 15 to 27 years-old, even when they're playing the senior officials, generals, etc.
Exception: If you don't mind subtitles, there is some inspired TV coming out of New Zealand, Sweden, Norway, Germany, France, etc. But sadly we don't get that much in Canada. What we get are the un authentic Americanized adaptations (sometimes made in the UK), with the PC stereotypes, simplified story lines, worse acting, and (sometimes) more graphic violence.
Well in that case you've missed out on some good stuff over the last decade and a half
Well part of it is the network's own fault. I saw the new Battlestar Galactica, and figured "oh, siffy will cancel it after 2 weeks" so I didn't watch it, then by the time it was obvious it was actually be given a run, it was too late to try to catch up.
So I still haven't watched it.
There is still good radio (spoken word) being made, it depends upon what you want. For documentaries, the Australian equivalent of Radio 4 is very good - try the Science Show and its sister programmes. For comedy, you might be well served by podcasts from around the world, of which there are thousands. Well-produced audio books have seen a surge in popularity, now that MP3 et al have liberated them from requiring a briefcase full of cassette tapes.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/
"Do I feel like I'm missing out on anything"
How would you know?
I think you've misunderstood the use of "must see TV" it simply means that a person will make time in their schedule to watch a particular programme rather than watch if there's nothing else going on. The imperative is a personal thing.
1 - Good material, this means real quality, sourced from producers who know what they are doing. Both Amazon and Netflix have managed this. Personally for me Man in High Castle was worth a watch but The Grand Tour was the clincher.
2 - Widely available, no matter what you have you can get it, this means streaming boxes, games consoles, mobile telephones. I only watch TV if it is on one of the following, if not, forget it. Freesat, Freeview, one of my consoles. TV on a telephone, no chance, PC forget it, I spend all day at work staring at monitors, I want it on my TV.
3 - Easy to buy, Amazon Prime was easy, wife did it on the PC, I literally logged in on the PS4 and was able to enjoy Clarkson Hammond and May just before midnight. I would suggest for Apple to make it even easier to add in support from the main console payment systems.
Oh and for controlling what I watch, easy I don't watch anything with a channel logo, that cuts out a LOT of crap.
This is Apple. Their original TV series will only be available on an Apple device. Roku and Fire TV are much better designed than Apple TV in both UI and remotes. Fire TV is gaining marketshare because you can sideload Kodi on it, and then these people use Kodi to watch pirated movies for free. The Apple TV is good at one thing only: mirroring the screen of the iPad/iPhone.
Anything Apple does won't be free. So just because a person has an Apple TV does not mean they will subscribe to Apple's video service. The only chance of success is to put the service on Roku and Amazon, which I seriously doubt Apple will do.
I stream Acorn on my laptop (hooked to my TV) because it uses Flash and isn't supported by my smart BlueRay player. But nothing else.
As for how the services support the content, if they get people to sign up, or not sign out, they get money every month. I signed up with Netflix again only for the new MST3K (well worth it) but will now look at some other stuff, though I don't give a crap about Orange is the New Black.
In the world of entertainment, content is King, Queen and dodgy-looking Grand Vizier.
It doesn't matter if their hardware turns out to be gold-pressed latinum hand-rolled on the thighs of gorgeous men and women.
If they don't have the content, it is dead before it's even made it out of the factory.
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