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The Register doesn't spare a glance for news of monitors but we made an exception when we learned of Samsung's new CHG90. The reason? It's a bit outrageous. As the shot above (or here for m.reg readers) shows, the monitor is rather wide and curved. Samsung rates it at 49 inches. But the aspect ratio is where it gets weird: …

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  1. Baldrickk

    Only 1080 high?

    I thought we were past that now? for the non 1920x1080 monitors at least...

    I still have my old 16:10 1920x1200 monitor because the screen size is nicer than any of the alternatives I have used.

    Consider a 1080p monitor costs a few hundred, few hundred more for a second one, oh and then double it to get rid of the bezel...

    I can see why gamers might want a dual screen setup with no bezel, but not worth it for others imho.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Only 1080 high?

      Hear, hear.

      +1000

      Why is there a fixation on 1080 height, 1200 should be the minimum. Height wise more is better.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Only 1080 high?

      > Only 1080 high?

      Buy three, mount vertically.

      1. Christian Berger

        Re: Only 1080 high?

        I've tried that, it works rather meh, as the screens get to narrow. Also bad web designers tend to make websites which fill the screen with junk, so you cannot make a narrow window without horizontal scrolling.

        1. caffeine addict

          Re: Only 1080 high?

          Also bad web designers tend to make websites which fill the screen with junk

          Worse, a lot of them have decided that anything below 1080 wide must be a tablet, and decide you need to have the mobile site.

      2. Stuart 22

        Re: Only 1080 high?

        "> Only 1080 high?

        Buy three, mount vertically."

        Alternatively with a decent Linux GUI you just rotate the screen 90 degrees. Fix stand to nearest wall.

        Voila: 1080x3840

        1. IsJustabloke
          Facepalm

          Re: Only 1080 high?

          "Alternatively with a decent Linux GUI you just rotate the screen 90 degrees."

          *sigh* because the drivers for my card would *never* allow me to do something like that on my non-*nix desktop....

          Seriously, why do people feel the need to to turn *every* fucking subject into "linux rulz! windoze sux!" competition? Just try growing up FFS!

          It's not like there isn't enough actual shit in the world to get arsy about

        2. Roland6 Silver badge

          Re: Only 1080 high?

          >Alternatively with a decent Linux GUI you just rotate the screen 90 degrees.

          Which Linux GUI provides an iOS style of transition between portrait and landscape?

          Also you do need an orientation-aware monitor and driver.

          It has always irritated me that the mainstream desktop OS's didn't properly support display rotation out-of-the-box. I have a Dell XPS-18, whilst it does support display orientation rotation, a side-by-side comparison with iOS shows just how basic and slow the MS version is...

      3. Daniel von Asmuth
        Gimp

        Re: Only 1080 high?

        Buy six, that makes for a nice 6480 (H) by 3840 (V) pixel resolution or 27:16 aspect ratio :-(

    3. big_D Silver badge

      Re: Only 1080 high?

      My ultra-wide Dell is "only" 32", but is 3880x1440, a much better combination.

      I still have an LG 24" monitor with 1920x1200 at home, but at work we just have 24" movie viewers (1920x1080), the lower pixel density makes them much harder to look at than a "proper" monitor.

      1. Dave K

        Re: Only 1080 high?

        As I'm lucky enough to work in IT at my company, I was pleased to find one of the last 1920x1200 screens left in our stock which I promptly snaffled for myself. As you say, all new ones now are 1920x1080, and they just feel cramped and unpleasant for working on.

        For my home office, my company sent over a 24" 1920x1080 screen. I don't use it, I prefer to use my own 16:10 screen via KVM.

        1. Nolveys
          Windows

          Re: Only 1080 high?

          I'm lucky enough to work in IT at my company

          That's a string of characters I never thought I would see.

  2. Dave K

    Huh?

    >> "most monitors these days are 16:9 to deliver HD images at 1080 x 720"

    You mean 1920x1080.

    Even then, I'll be giving this a miss as it still has less vertical resolution than my main (and aging) 1920x1200 monitor. As for work, I'd rather have multiple monitors as it's far easier to snap multiple apps in place that way (I actually use a 1920x1200 main screen with a 1600x1200 monitor either side of it).

    And just imagine the fun of browsing web pages down a miniscule column in the middle...

    I'm sure some people will like this, but it's not for me.

    1. Ben Tasker

      Re: Huh?

      > As for work, I'd rather have multiple monitors as it's far easier to snap multiple apps in place that way

      You're thinking too small. My first thought was that if I went for these, I'd get two (for precisely the reasons you mentioned)

    2. diodesign (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      Re: 1080 x 720

      Typo fixed. It's already Friday in Oz - brains are tired after a week-long slog.

      C.

  3. 27escape

    weighs 45 pounds

    wow, seems excessive for a LED screen what is essentially the same size as 2 normal monitors

    1. Pen-y-gors

      Re: weighs 45 pounds

      Stuff the practicality...this thing will surely be a big babe magnet! 49" will really impress. Anyone with one of these on their desk must be really serious about their work as well - although what's the betting it's only the boss gets one, who uses it to play solitaire and surf dodgy websites.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: this thing will surely be a big babe magnet

        Overcompensating for something?

      2. jmarked

        Re: weighs 45 pounds

        You definitely need your eyes wide open for this monitor.

    2. Detective Emil

      Re: weighs 45 pounds

      Well, the <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Screen-LED-Lit-Monitor-LC49HG90DMNXZA/dp/B072C7TNC5/ref=sr_1_1”>Amazon link I found says the “item weight” is 33 pounds (still not light), so the larger figure includes packaging, the odd cable, inadequate printed docs and maybe a power brick.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: weighs 45 pounds

        "[...] 33 pounds (still not light), "

        All things are relative. My 21inch 4:3 CRT monitor circa 2005 was a two person lift. Still have the solid pine shelf that gradually bowed under the weight.

        1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

          Re: weighs 45 pounds

          I remember changing an old 19" CRT for a 23" LCD for the first time.

          Heaving the beast to the side of the desk so I could reach the cables to unplug it, then struggling to get the eormous bugger down the stairs without it tipping out of my hands, as it was so lopsided with all the weight in the screen.

          Then holding the new 23" in one hand, while plugging it in with the other. Much more relaxing.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Happy

            Re: weighs 45 pounds

            "then struggling to get the eormous(sic) bugger down the stairs without it tipping out of my hands"

            You always put the screen against you. Try lugging a 25" monitor up 3 flights of stairs.

            Kids today eh...

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: weighs 45 pounds

              "Try lugging a 25" monitor up 3 flights of stairs."

              We once did a customer demo with a large plasma monitor on a stationary train. It was a two person job to move it on the platform - especially up a short flight of stairs where there was no lift alternative.

            2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

              Re: weighs 45 pounds

              "You always put the screen against you. Try lugging a 25" monitor up 3 flights of stairs."

              Or even just a 15" CRT screen. Under each arm. And EVERY FECKING DOOR you come to is a PULL not a push.

            3. Alan Brown Silver badge

              Re: weighs 45 pounds

              "You always put the screen against you. "

              No, you don't. If for any reason the tube breaks and the gun gets loose, there's a decent chance it'll punch through the front of the screen.

              If it's that heavy, then it's a two-person lift. if not, face the screen down.

            4. GruntyMcPugh Silver badge

              Re: weighs 45 pounds

              "You always put the screen against you."

              I soon worked this out when I had a Saturday job at Woolworths. The TVs were in the lock up in the basement, so every time I sold a TV I had to go fetch and drag it up the stairs.

              Best memory of those days was having all of the TVs showing Live Aid.

          2. Christian Berger

            Re: weighs 45 pounds

            " as it was so lopsided with all the weight in the screen."

            What's why you always carry CRT monitors with the screen towards you, much easier that way. There is no significant danger as the front of CRTs is the most sturdy piece about them.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: weighs 45 pounds

              "There is no significant danger as the front of CRTs is the most sturdy piece about them"

              And if you do drop them, the resulting explosion tends to go through your legs....yup been there, still manged to have kids.

            2. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: weighs 45 pounds

              "What's why you always carry CRT monitors with the screen towards you, [...]"

              My 21" CRT monitor came with a novel warning symbol. Basically it represented a belt buckle - to remind you not to scratch the front of the screen when carrying it.

          3. BinkyTheMagicPaperclip Silver badge

            Re: weighs 45 pounds

            Depends on the monitor. I still have two 21" CRTs, and yes, they're a faff to move around although doable by yourself. Re-arranging the study recently was annoying. I still like them, regardless.

            However my main TFT (HP, 1600x1200) is not exactly light either. You can hold it in one hand, but only just. A lot of weight is probably in the stand.

            When one of the CRTs die, I'm probably going 1440p rather than 4K, but we'll see.

          4. K.o.R

            Re: weighs 45 pounds

            The lightness of modern screens is incredible. I was able to lift and almost install a fifty-inch tv by myself; I only gave up and got help because I couldn't physically see around it to get it on its mounting arm.

  4. Milton

    #Fail

    "Samsung rates it at 49 inches. But the aspect ratio is where it gets weird: most monitors these days are 16:9 to deliver HD images at 1080 x 720. The CHG90 is 32:9 and 3840 x 1080."

    This really caught my attention, until encountering the disappointment of the resolution. I'm writing this on a 3840x2160 UHD Sammy, and ultra-wide aspect ratio or not, I cannot imagine switching to a system with half the pixels I have now.

    Fifteen years ago when I was doing lots of project management, I had three Eizo SVGA monitors side by side, an absolute boon considering the way Gantt charts can get so wide. I'm too old to lust after shiny kit as a rule, but I'd love to get my hands on something twice the width of my current Sammy, for say 7680x2160: doubling up or tripling displays is fine, but, bezels, y'know ...

    Personally, it's hard to see how 32:9 and 49" is particularly useful with such weedy resolution? Use cases, anyone?

    1. ArrZarr Silver badge

      Re: #Fail

      It'll be focused on Gamers. 4k is wonderful for raw pixels but you need very high end hardware to run games at a decent framerate while pushing that many pixels. This monitor is about equal to two standard 1080p monitors so you'd get all the benefit with none of the bezelly downside.

      1. Sgt_Oddball

        Re: #Fail

        If you can afford this monitor you can afford a good pc and graphics card to run it.

        1. ArrZarr Silver badge
          Boffin

          Re: #Fail

          Yes, you can afford a stonking great powerful PC. For gaming, 4k isn't a huge huge deal unlike 21:9 ultrawide which provides more screen real estate, whether you're pushing 2560x1080 or 3440x1440 like I am.

          As far as I know, the general feeling in gaming is that 4k is too much on the graphics intensive side to have a good balance between graphics & smoothness. You could be running an i7-7700k overclocked up to 5GHz with dual 1080Tis in SLI and you would still probably have to drop some settings in the latest AAA releases to maintain a consistent 60FPS.

          Honestly, I'm not sold on this monitor. I think that a 34" 3440x1440 monitor gets the balance just about right. The only reason I would seriously consider this one is if there were games I played gained a huge benefit from being played on two screens, without the bezel in the way and lost that benefit when they reached three screens. Not a large overlap on that Venn Diagram.

          Finally, it occurs to me that if you regularly have to deal with working from multiple documents at the same time, a screen this wide will allow you to have seven or eight word docs open, side by side by side...by side and not have to constantly search for the correct document from the toolbar.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Happy

      Re: #Fail

      @Milton

      Wavelab and Rekordbox. With no bezels in between the programs. And 2 less wires.

      Cheers… Ishy

  5. Zebo-the-Fat

    Any good for ....

    Is it any good for watching porn??

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Any good for ....

      >Is it any good for watching porn??

      As long as they are lying horizontally.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Any good for ....

        It's a centrefold machine.

  6. Your alien overlord - fear me

    125% of the sRGB colour spectrum

    Note the spelling !!!!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: 125% of the sRGB colour spectrum

      And still, it doesn't say nothing useful. 125% *how* - unless you see its colour space plotted, it's of no use. But I guess game players are little interested in gamut. For true photo editing, you need something close at least to the AdobeRGB space, and for video editing something with the right color space (not 95% of it).

      1. Mark 65

        Re: 125% of the sRGB colour spectrum

        For true photo editing you'll be using an NEC or an Eizo ColorEdge.

  7. Huw D

    Who would want of of those?

    I pray to $DEITY none of my Architect clients see this.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Who would want of of those?

      Had a house survey done in the 1980s by a local firm. In talking it turned out that he used an ICL Perq system - which was then considered by many as the bees-knees for a video monitor.

  8. Pete 2 Silver badge

    code word

    > Samsung's built the monitor for gamers,

    Whenever I see any word that means game, gamer, gaming, I automatically assume it is like "organic" - meaning more expensive but with no discernible improvement. So a "gaming" mouse is just a mouse - but at 3 times the price. A "gamers" mouse mat is just a mouse mat, but by costing anything up to £60 (yes, really!) they are somehow better, make you more proficient, or just give you something to brag about.

    The same applies to everything else that is meant for "gamers". Just like aficionados of high quality audio are targetted with oxygen-free cables and gold plated power switches and many other things that do not matter.

    But relieving such people of their money is no bad thing. If buying overpriced stuff pleases them then fair enough. And for the rest of us, the words act as a warning.

    1. Lee D Silver badge

      Re: code word

      No different to audiophiles, motor enthusiasts, or any other sector where people consider themselves to have an expertise that few others have.

      They all buy expensive toys that they think professionals use to make themselves seem "more" professional, whether or not they can even use them effectively.

      I look at my Facebook and I see people with fishing gear costing thousands, which they then use in reservoirs where there are no fish. I see car nuts buying bits for their cars that are totally worthless and unnecessary and the cost of which would cover buying a better car. It's the same for all sorts.

      My technician was telling me only yesterday that he was in a store and a guy was buying a "gold-plated optical audio cable". I can't even fathom how that works. But the guy paid a fortune for it because "it'll make it sound better".

      Everything from the guy with the large 4K TV, to the bloke with go-faster stripes and under-car lighting, to the gamer with the 48-button, 10Mdpi mouse, they're all the same.

      And they all whine like hell with excuses when your run-of-the-mill, bog-standard, but you spent a tiny bit more than the minimum and actually researched, purchase beats their super-duper kit into a cocked hat. They all then pull out the "Yeah, but that's just electronic timing / digital audio / carbon fibre / whatever, it's not as good as my ancient mechanics / dust-strewn LP's / stick of wood even if you think it is".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: code word

        they're called "hobbies" or "toys for big boys" - what a sad and depressing life it must be to be so cynical about everything.. but I bet there is something you spend without much care and thought on.. stamps? lenses for your plane spotting? a nice notebook for your train serial number notes? new liners for the basement so the screams can't be heard above ground?

        1. Lee D Silver badge

          Re: code word

          Do what you like as a hobby.

          But wasting money on snake-oil products vaguely related to said hobby? That's the silly part.

          I'm a gamer. I operate gaming servers too. I don't have any of that "gaming" junk (Amazon today has a "gaming" sale, consisting of little routers with about 12 antennae on them and light-up keyboards - and yet my ping is lower than anyone else's because I just have proper QoS on the connection, local network, etc.). My mouse is a TeckNet cheapy. But I'll still kick your backside at Counterstrike with it, though.

          I'm an astronomer. I have telescopes, mounts, camera bodies, image-stacking software, None of it cost very much at all, and all of it produces results that even a guy in the street would go "Oh, wow, yeah, that makes a big difference". You could spend £1000 on a filter. Or £10k on a massive Schmidt-Cassegrain. I don't. Because other factors - not least the expertise to use it, clear skies to make it worthwhile, or limited value of the difference I'd get from using it - mean it's not worth it.

          There's a case of choosing the right tool, and it improving the output of someone skilled in the use of it. But being skilled in the use of it is more important no matter what tool.

          Buying snake-oil products like Killer Ethernet cards, or super-duper-carbon-fibre fishing rods, or some professional set of £2k golf clubs when your handicap is still in the double-digits, or some special spark plug doesn't magically make things better than you could have got anyway, and rarely provides any kind of return-on-investment, especially for a hobbyist.

          In fact, the more you avoid that snake-oil junk, the more you can get out of your hobby, the more hobbies you can have, and the more drinks you can have down the pub with your mates afterwards. It's the people who bore you to tears about some thousand-pound snooker cue and its manufacturing process when they can barely hit the ball, that then try to justify it, and never have any money left for anything else that I would feel sorry for.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: code word

            I've just bought a gaming mouse...it has 2 programmable buttons which come in handy for twatting the enemy; the thumb buttons have contouring so you can definitely tell which one you're pressing; on-the-fly adjustable DPI so you can have fast (for bouncing round the landscape with enemies all around you) or accurate (sniper scopes etc); and best of all, all the microswitches have a little haptic click so you definitely know you've pressed them.

            It's the right tool for the job. Cost me £10 from eBay and I'm very pleased with it.

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