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Whoops! Microsoft accidentally lets out a mobile-'bricking' OS update
“A small portion” of Windows mobile users hoping the unexpected cool new update would start the month off the right way got burned yesterday. Microsoft “accidentally” released a development build of Windows 10 that can transform your phone into jelly if you try to install it. “We apologize for this inconvenience,” said …
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Friday 2nd June 2017 14:45 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Seems so long ago
“Today was a great exercise in our whole team coming together to solve a singular problem,”
Such postive spin takes me back to the day we carried that large foam iPhone brick collectively, the real Winphone bricks are in our pockets, now, and forever will be.
"It's dead Jim"
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Monday 5th June 2017 16:09 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Seems so long ago
'"Singular" = Exceptionally good'
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Not precisely, no. A lot of words get misused and thus misunderstood. This looks to be one of them:
singular
adjective
1.
extraordinary; remarkable; exceptional:
a singular success.
2.
unusual or strange; odd; different:
singular behavior.
3.
being the only one of its kind; distinctive; unique:
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Friday 2nd June 2017 16:49 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Seems so long ago
Hit me and several others I know too. Hard reboot doesn't work. Can't believe something so universally terminal to devices got released. Shouldn't they check it with some phones at Microsoft first?
I think most people won't know how to use the WDRT and many will probably be returning their devices under warranty, etc...
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Friday 2nd June 2017 17:37 GMT GoingGoingGone
Re: Seems so long ago
There are no W10M phones left at MS, or at least nobody is using them.
The utter contempt for their own creation is such that the announcement for the recent W10M Creators Update release was done via Twitter FROM AN IPHONE (by the same Microsoft Windows and Devices Group software engineer Dona Sarkar the article refers to, who is also the public face of the Windows Insider program, and much to the despair and incredulity of the few remaining loyal users).
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Friday 2nd June 2017 20:08 GMT Anonymous Coward
iPhone funeral
Wow, I forgot all about that. The air certainly was thick with hubris back then, when Microsoft thought by just throwing something out there people would abandon the iPhone. Did they really believe people actually loved Microsoft products, instead of merely tolerating them because they had no choice?
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Sunday 4th June 2017 00:22 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: iPhone funeral
"Average is no longer sufficient."
True, MSFT is getting by because average, if it is already in place, will work for corporations, or IT will pretend it works. Corporate IT departments seem to not want to replace MSFT even though the users would welcome it. The average IT bod who works on MSFT thinks users still really want MSFT... they don't at all, but they have been keeping up the charade so they don't have to deal with change. Users generally want the latest and greatest (i.e. Apple and Google). IT wants whatever is in place, generally, so they don't have to do work. Not in all cases, but generally true. They fought iPhone and Android until they released the users were going to come after them with pitchforks if they didn't support it. The crazy part about this one is that it would really not be much more expensive to outfit users with MacBook. It would be dramatically less expensive to outfit users with Android/ChromeOS and G Suite... probably cut their end user expenses in half and users would like the move. It's just silly.
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Sunday 4th June 2017 06:05 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: iPhone funeral
> Corporate IT departments seem to not want to replace MSFT
Cost, Retraining, Apple lock-in
All those shitty MS certificates on their CV
There isn't a *nix desktop that's corporate ready unless you swap for Apple.
I work in design, one of the most Apple friendly environments and still they save hardware dollar on some Leveno crap running Windows for the spreadsheet monkeys.
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Monday 5th June 2017 13:03 GMT CrazyOldCatMan
Re: iPhone funeral
Corporate IT departments seem to not want to replace MSFT even though the users would welcome it.
There are multiple reasons for that:
1. Business workflows have accreted over time and a sensitive to versions, let alone applications.
2. Users don't necessarily welcome it - the most familiar complaint is "but I was used to the old one!".
3. In some cases (AD/SQLServer) there no easy way to replace the functionality. Yes, I know OpenLDAP/MariaDB/Postgresql exist but I refer you to point (1).
4. It takes a good deal of vision/guts/money/time to rip out existing business processes and rebuild them from scratch. That combination of 4 factors is very, very rare. To quote Sir Humphrey "that's a very bold step" and that's not something IT directors & senior execs want to hear..
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Friday 2nd June 2017 13:25 GMT Steve Davies 3
Interesting
Tim Coulling, a senior analyst at Canalys, thinks the issue's reach is fairly minor because the install base for Microsoft mobile devices is relatively low and people with those devices would have also had to choose to install the update immediately (unlikely).
Come on MS, admit it, this platform is as dead as the proverbial Dodo. Put the few people still running it out of their misery.
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Friday 2nd June 2017 17:15 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Interesting
Clunky Android?? Perhaps sub £100, but spend a reasonable amount from a decent manufacturer that doesnt load it up with bloat, and of course make sure it's sim-free (so a carrier doesn't load their bloat on) and it's anything but clunky. It's fast, feature rich and secure.
I think you need to either unplug from the internet (as you can't spot fud when it's passed your way), or need to stop being a cheapskate, and spent a more reasonable amount of money on your device. A couple of hundred quid will get you a pretty decent mid range android phone.
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Friday 2nd June 2017 18:47 GMT Nolveys
Re: Interesting
Come on MS, admit it, this platform is as dead as the proverbial Dodo. Put the few people still running it out of their misery.
I don't think MS's relationship with Samsung is all that great at the moment, they'll probably have a hard time getting their hands on the proper batteries to finish the job.
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Friday 2nd June 2017 13:28 GMT Justice
What's that???
You didn't back up your device before applying a major update?
Oh, boo hoo hoo.
You must be so lost without all the data you acquired since you last found the motivation to get up off your arse and sync it with your box with lights.
Gutted.
Probably because it takes up a whole three minutes of your valuable time and could really have been done while you were watching cat videos instead of just leaping in there.
What a personal disaster.
Ray. The permanently sarcastic man.
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Saturday 3rd June 2017 10:42 GMT TheVogon
Re: What's that???
"You didn't back up your device before applying a major update?"
Windows phone automatically backs up apps, config and settings. Most people use OneDrive to backup everything else.
And most people use the default settings to automatically install updates when the phone knows it isn't being used. Usually overnight...
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Friday 2nd June 2017 13:30 GMT Richard Jones 1
MS Mobiles or Smoke Signals
“Today was a great exercise in our whole team coming together to solve a singular problem,” Sarkar tweeted yesterday.
I guess they were not eating their own dog food (using the company devices) if they managed to communicate. Though on second thoughts perhaps they came to the same room to communicate because they ate at the company dog bowls?
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Friday 2nd June 2017 15:31 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: so a subset of a subset of Windows phone users ?
The child was also an orphan who had no money. The child had to work 23 hours a day 7 days a week just to get some food. They had no worldly possessions such as toys and lived in nothing but rags just eking out an existence in such a cruel society.
Yet the worst thing that ever happened was getting a windows phone.
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