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Welcome again to On-Call, our Friday re-telling of readers unforgettable on-the-job experiences. This week, meet “Jim” who once had a manager show up in the IT department and ask for a discreet chat in the colleague's office. When Jim arrived the manager “pushed his laptop bag towards me, whilst giving the bag the kind of …

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  1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    Good on Jim

    He was perfectly right to dump the whole sorry mess. Being a manager does not entitle you to making a godawful mess and then expecting everyone else to clean up after you - except that, obviously, that does tend to happen quite a lot.

    In any case, a melted keyboard is certainly to be interpreted as a dead laptop. Even without the aroma and hygiene issue, it was most likely dead as a doorknob anyway.

    Once I had a work laptop (a Thinkpad) which, due to a mistaken movement which I very much regretted, some Coke spilled onto the keyboard. I immediately turned over the laptop and tried to shake all the liquid out, finishing the job with tissues to dry everything as best I could. The laptop continued working for the rest of the evening, seemingly without trouble. I backed up everything important before shutting down, just in case. Turns out in case was the case, and the laptop never started up again. I got a replacement with an admonishment to keep the Coke away from the keyboard and that was that.

    So yeah, dog pee all over, no attempt to dry it up with paper towels and applying hair dryer until the keyboard melts ? That thing was completely dead. No use wasting time on it and so much for that moron's budget and "important files".

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Good on Jim

      >Once I had a work laptop (a Thinkpad) which, due to a mistaken movement which I very much regretted, some Coke spilled onto the keyboard.

      Now if you had used the solid variety of coke this wouldn't have been a problem, who says drugs are all bad ?

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        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Good on Jim

          >" solid variety of coke" like from a blast furnace?

          Your dealer has ripped you off then, the clue is that it's much darker in appearance than the desired substance. However all is not lost as you could also then additionally snort iron ore, shove a lighted match up your nose and when you sneeze* with any luck you should obtain pig iron in the tissue which then can be used for any number of exciting projects or exchanged for cash at the local crap metal merchants.

          *Do not not sneeze until after you have inserted lighted match as this requires the process to be restarted from scratch.

        2. TRT Silver badge

          Re: Good on Jim

          When presented with a similar situation, involving cat urine, I simply told the user to get the hard drive out themselves and I'd see what data I could recover from it, and they can bin the rest of it.

          The look I gave them when they asked if they could borrow my screwdrivers...

          1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

            Re: Good on Jim

            "The look I gave them when they asked if they could borrow my screwdrivers..."

            Lost opportunity. You should have sold them a screwdriver. About £20 should be right.

        3. chivo243 Silver badge

          Re: Good on Jim

          @Symon

          Have an upvote!

          I was thinking the story was going to end that way. I would have opened the computer on a trash bin...

        4. Allan George Dyer

          Re: Good on Jim

          "Urine's sterile, BTW" - right up to the point when it leaves the urethra. After spending the night in a nice, warm laptop keyboard, I should think that all the organisms in the accumulated dust would have multiplied very happily.

          I agree about checking out the disc drive, though. At least see if the compartment is dry.

        5. pLu

          Re: Good on Jim

          Urine is not sterile, not even in the bladder.

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            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: Good on Jim

              Re: urine-not-sterile.

              "We don't know if they're a consequence of overactive bladder or if they are a cause of overactive bladder," Hilt said. "We still have to perform more studies."

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        6. PNGuinn
          Boffin

          Re: Good on Jim Re dog

          Are you sure it was the dog?

          After all the guy admitted getting home pissed ......

          1. imanidiot Silver badge

            Re: Good on Jim Re dog

            That'd be my question too. A normally housetrained dog isn't suddenly going to take a piss on the boss's laptop

            1. Ian Michael Gumby
              Devil

              Re: Good on Jim Re dog

              That'd be my question too. A normally housetrained dog isn't suddenly going to take a piss on the boss's laptop

              That depends on the dog and the owner.

              Dogs have personalities and some are known to get in to mischief if their owner doesn't give them enough attention.

              1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

                Re: Good on Jim Re dog

                "Dogs have personalities and some are known to get in to mischief if their owner doesn't give them enough attention."

                Pretty much like little kids, then.

                1. kain preacher

                  Re: Good on Jim Re dog

                  Well they say a dog has the iq of a 3 year old.

                2. J. Cook Silver badge

                  Re: Good on Jim Re dog

                  Cat are just as bad; I like describing them as four legged two year olds with no concept of memory at times.

                  (seriously. one of the cats in my house is elderly, and when he gets offended by pretty much anything, he poops on the floor instead of the litter box. He at least pees in the box, which I'm thankful for.)

            2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

              Re: Good on Jim Re dog

              "A normally housetrained dog isn't suddenly going to take a piss on the boss's laptop"

              A well trained dog, however...

          2. Mark 85

            Re: Good on Jim Re dog

            I question that also. Unless the laptop was on the floor or somewhere accessible to the dog how did the dog pee on it? Most dogs don't climb up on tables or desks....

        7. Ripper38

          Re: Good on Jim

          ...um. up-voted for the cartoon!

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Good on Jim

        Does of course depend on the nature of the mistaken movement's (potentially on-screen content distractions) as to the effectiveness of either type of coke...

    2. Lars Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: Good on Jim

      I don't agree, he could have easily saved the HD. And once again - beware of cats, they love to lay down on the warm keyboard and they seem to like the sound too. And now that I think about it, why have I newer tried to use my insurance.

    3. tedleaf

      Re: Good on Jim

      But I bet I could have got it working again,and how did you clear all your data before dumping laptop ?

    4. Dr Dan Holdsworth

      Re: Good on Jim

      Handing over an unpleasant biohazard to a techie without the equipment or the pay to handle such is basically impolite, irresponsible and just plain stupid. I'm with the techie here; dump the bloody thing straight off and perhaps even feed it through a shredder if there's any chance of there being unencrypted data on the laptop.

    5. phuzz Silver badge
      Meh

      Re: Good on Jim

      I had to work on a laptop belonging to a French friend of mine, who had spilled coffee across the keyboard.

      Fortunately she'd had the presence of mind to turn it off, and then leave it upside down straight away, so it was fine after I'd cleaned off some of the sticky keys (with isopropyl, works better than water). However, it did leave my room stinking of coffee, which might be ok for some of you, but I don't like coffee :(

      1. Adam 1

        Re: Good on Jim

        > but I don't like coffee

        A BOFH who has never had his coffee. Ouch!

    6. Orv Silver badge

      Re: Good on Jim

      "In any case, a melted keyboard is certainly to be interpreted as a dead laptop. Even without the aroma and hygiene issue, it was most likely dead as a doorknob anyway."

      Amusing counterpoint: About four years ago a friend had a rather severe garage fire, hot enough that radiant heat melted plastic components off a clothes dryer that was on the other side of a drywall partition. Before the fire he'd been out in the garage poking around online, and had left his netbook out there. The netbook was not in the hottest part of the fire, but it was close enough that the case warped and the keys fell out when it was opened. He took the SSD out of it, put it into another netbook, and is still using it today.

    7. TheVogon

      Re: Good on Jim

      We once had a neighbour's dog that pissed on everything.

      I found an effective cure:

      http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hotline-HLC120-Gemini-120-Electric-Fence-Energiser-1-2J-OUTPUT-Battery-Mains-/152141201479

      1. TheVogon

        Re: Good on Jim

        See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wDzICw13ps

    8. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      The laptop smelled like burnt piss?

      I thought all laptops that run Win10 smelled that way.

      /s

  2. Oengus
    Pint

    Back in the day...

    Many years ago I was working on the weekend shift when someone spilt a can of Fanta on to the keyboard of the main system console of our production mainframe (keeping the banking system up for the weekend to allow people to withdraw money from "new fangled" ATMs).

    We quickly turned the keyboard over and switched to the backup console. The mainframe kept running and the keyboard eventually dried out. It continued to work until the system was replaced. The only side effect was occasionally getting one's finger stuck in a bit of residue on the keys or a key sticking... They don't make keyboards like that any more...

    1. Voland's right hand Silver badge

      Re: Back in the day...

      They don't make keyboards like that any more...

      They do not make fanta like that any more either. The fanta or coke of old was all sugar. It dried to a "crisp". It took time, but it happened (eventually). At that point you could just bash on the keys a bit and hoover it all up.

      The obesity nectars of today do not dry - they all remain a sticky goo because it is nasty mix of sucrose and glucose/fructose. A keyboard of old will be as f*** as a modern one if it cops a cup of "become a Wall-E character" juice.

    2. patrickstar

      Re: Back in the day...

      I had a SUN Type 5 keyboard that got literally soked in coke (the liquid kind) twice. Once to the point that the entire thing was totally shorted out - the Caps Lock LED had an omnious glow.

      Both times I simply took the thing apart, took out the controller board and cleaned it manually, and gave the keyboard itself a good shower.

      Worked perfectly fine for many years after.

      1. Stevie

        Re: Back in the day...

        Dropped coffee in a brand new keyboard once. Ran it under the cold tap to the horror of all, then dismantled it and dried it with paper towel. The only sticky bit was the rubber sheet under the keycaps popped a couple of magnets and getting them back in place was tedious. Worked fine after for many years.

        Why people think washing circuit boards is a terrible idea after they've been hosed in beverage is a mystery. Air drying is the mistake, as tap water is full of stuff that crystalizes out and can short tracks.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Dishwasher

          I've run HP's 90s era PS/2 keyboards through a dishwasher, and that cleans them up with no hassle and they work perfectly if you shake them out briskly after and give them a day or two to fully dry.

          Anyone know of any USB keyboards made tough enough to do that? They are impossible to clean properly otherwise!

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Dishwasher

            I've run HP's 90s era PS/2 keyboards through a dishwasher, and that cleans them up with no hassle and they work perfectly if you shake them out briskly after and give them a day or two to fully dry.

            If I recall correctly, a lot of PS/2 computers could probably survive a trip through the dishwasher.

        2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

          Re: Back in the day...

          "Why people think washing circuit boards is a terrible idea after they've been hosed in beverage is a mystery. "

          I hosed out an HP Officejet once after some dipstick left it stored upside down in a box. Ink everywhere. But lovely and sparkly clean afterwards. Drying it out took some time with a fan outside on a warm sunny day and re-lubing all the moving parts, but it worked a treat afterwards. Not recommended, but this was back when HP Officejet MFPs were still new on the market and quite expensive to replace.

          1. TRT Silver badge

            Re: Back in the day...

            Ultrapure distilled is on tap at my place. So a quick rinse in that and a few hours in the drying cabinet will work wonders.

    3. Anonymous IV

      Re: Back in the day...

      > Many years ago I was working on the weekend shift when someone spilt a can of Fanta on to the keyboard of the main system console of our production mainframe...

      Attempted fantacide, I would suggest!

      (Ba-boom, tish)

    4. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: Back in the day...

      "Many years ago I was working on the weekend shift when someone spilt a can of Fanta on to the keyboard of the main system console of our production mainframe (keeping the banking system up for the weekend to allow people to withdraw money from "new fangled" ATMs)."

      Most places, it was a serious offence to have drinks or food anywhere near a system, least of all the system console of a mainframe. Actually spilling it and causing damage would likely be a sackable offence back then.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Someone's pulling my leg and taking the piss with this story, it's just a load of hot air.

    1. Just Enough
      Boffin

      Yeah, that happened.

      This story is clear bollocks. A hair-dryer that melts a keyboard??

      Either they own a lethal hair dryer that would fail any safety test, or a keyboard made out of chocolate.

      1. Hollerithevo

        Re: Yeah, that happened.

        Actually, yes. The hairdryers used in hair salons are powerful machines. I was one sitting on ma half-melted plastic tray -- the chap said he laid it there every time he finished using it and the residual heat alone out the back had done the deed.

      2. royprime

        Re: Yeah, that happened.

        Nope, can honestly say if you are silly enough to keep a hairdryer on a keyboard for a length of time it will melt the keys. Seen it myself with someone that watched a you tube video on drying out a laptop. It's got to be a good length of time, but most cheap keyboards (and this one was a Toshiba) are very thin and melt pretty easily.

        1. Orv Silver badge

          Re: Yeah, that happened.

          It doesn't take much. I warped the plastic case of a device once by putting it in a 170F oven to bake out some moisture that had gotten into it...170F isn't really that much, you can hold your hand in 170F air without much discomfort. (170F water will scald you badly, but that's because water is a much better heat transfer medium.)

      3. Stevie

        Re: Yeah, that happened.

        Sorry, just enough, you are the one spouting rubbish. Hair dryers can easily muster the oomph to melt plastic.

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        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Yeah, that happened.

          Perhaps what happened is the manager plugged in a blow dryer on his porch and laid it on down, and laid the laptop on its side facing the dryer. Then left it there like that for a while.

          That sounds like the sort of thing I might do being 1) too lazy to stand there waving a blow dryer around 2) wanting to have the smell outside my house 3) wanting the blow dryer on a concrete surface so I don't have to worry about a fire. I wouldn't think about the possibility of melting the keys, but I guess if you had it set on 'high' heat and put it right next to the keyboard...

          Realistically if that happened to me I'd pull out the battery and hard drive, then hold the laptop under the shower, shake it out real good and THEN blow dry the crap out of it and let it sit overnight. If that failed, as it probably would, I'd put it back together, take it to IT and say "my laptop quit working" and they'd be none the wiser :)

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Re: Yeah, that happened.

            "Realistically if that happened to me I'd pull out the battery and hard drive, then hold the laptop under the shower,"

            The manager concerned was pissed at the time. How pissed is another matter of course, but one tends to make not quite fully fully rational decisions after a few jars.

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