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Zuckerberg's absolutely mental: Brain sensors that read YOUR MIND at 100 words a minute

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web 3.0 direct, from our brain to yours at 100wpm

... that old servant Ines told me that one drop even if it got into you at all after I tried with the Banana but I was afraid it might break and get lost up in me somewhere because they once took something down out of a woman that was up there for years covered with limesalts they're all mad to get in there where they come out of you'd think they could never go far enough up and then they're done with you in a way till the next time yes because there's a wonderful feeling there so tender all the time how did we finish it off yes O yes I pulled him off into my handkerchief pretending not to be excited but I opened my legs I wouldn't let him touch me inside my petticoat because I had a skirt opening up the side I tormented the life out of him first tickling him I loved rousing that dog in the hotel rrrsssstt awokwokawok his eyes shut and a bird flying below us he was shy all the same I liked him like that moaning I made him blush a little when I got over him that way when I unbuttoned him and took his out and drew back the skin it had a kind of eye in it they're all Buttons men down the middle on the wrong side of them Molly darling he called me what was his name ...

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Re: web 3.0 direct, from our brain to yours at 100wpm

Looks like a copy of the Nokia VR camera they launched years ago...

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Re: web 3.0 direct, from our brain to yours at 100wpm

I'm more worried about this...

[Walks along pleasant leafy street]

...great weather, wonder if it'll rain later...love the sound of the wind in the trees...ah there's Mr. Perkins walking his Spaniel, on time as usual, you could set your watch by him...oh yes, must remember to get some milk on the way home, we're almost out...<<BING BONG!...Yes, you need some ZuckerMilk (TM), great taste, great value for all the family, special promotion now on, free Zucker badge with every purchase!...BING BONG!>>...Aaaah!!! Get the fuck out of my head!!!! Now where was I?...oh yes, the trees...

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No escape

Maybe these people will make a world so horrible, I'll be able to escape into an artificial one provided for me, where I have privacy, and can keep myself to myself... via Facebook of course. Here's hoping.

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Re: No escape

You are alone in an artificial world, yet millions are watching every step you make.

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Re: No escape

Just say no for Facebook. Yes I know it is easier said than done but give liberation a try.

There is a whole world out there that is not dictated to by the whims of (anti-)social media.

This move (to read my thoughts) is just creepy. It smacks of Big Brother circa 2020.

My thoughts are mine and mine alone. They are not the property of some mega corp (yet).

I own my thoughts not you Zuck!

Just say no to Facebook!

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Re: No escape

But wait until Facebook becomes a basic prerequisite to even APPLYING for a job (ANY job), just as the Internet is becoming a basic requirement in many places. What happens when it becomes a matter of "submit to Big Brother or STARVE"?

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Re: No escape

The irony is that the more a person use Facebook, the less productivity he/she is in office environment as he/she is too busy checking Facebook in the office.

Partly because Facebook is aiming toward media consumption where they want to keep the users on Facebook as long as they could.

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WTF?

Re Charles 9: No escape

Wow, you really have been trained to limit your own thinking.

Create a brick & mortar business. Some businesses, like restaurants, will always be there. Always.

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FAIL

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And many of THEM are accepting online orders IN ADVANCE. That way the cooks are kept busy and the customers don't have to wait at table. More turnover = more profits = you get to kill the competition.

Anyone that voluntarily refused to use the Internet would have to pray for a Luddite clientele: a dying breed.

Try again.

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Re: No escape

What happens when it becomes a matter of "submit to Big Brother or STARVE"?

There's always being an entrepreneur in the black market darknet!

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Re: Re Charles 9: No escape

> customers don't have to wait at table

What do you mean by that?

The point of going to a restaurant is not to stuff yourself with food as fast as you can. You can always do that faster and cheaper than in a restaurant. Have some beer/wine/whatever you like, talk, meanwhile order meal, drink and talk more... If you do not enjoy the time there what the hell are you doing there?

Wait... are you from some place where McDonald's is called restaurant?

> More turnover = more profits = you get to kill the competition.

Your competition, yes. Actual restaurants, no.

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Happy

Re: No escape

You are in a maze of twisted little freaks staring into their phones, all alike...

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Re: Re Charles 9: No escape

"Wait... are you from some place where McDonald's is called restaurant?"

Perhaps he is.

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Re: Just say no

"Just say no for Facebook. Yes I know it is easier said than done but give liberation a try."

As things stand, it's very, very easy and short of it being mandatory I can't see that changing.

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Re: No escape

I know how to make molotov bombs and can use my motorcycle gear to go against the copers on a protest against privacy invasion, if that ever becomes a reality of course.

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Sad

It's certainly possible to operate a keyboard or predictive text input via bci/bmi - apps available now and some rugged non-invasive open source platform's notably http://openbci.com/ which can match the work he's referring to. This stuff has great potential in the assistive tech space where mechanical switching and eye gaze provide functional but irksome and tiring interfaces...

....but he's selling another monorail for shareholders - you can almost smell the fear and desperation now.

Stanford's interface provides a switching capability - 'mental gesture recognition' of sorts - with a little more work on the autocomplete software 100 wpm is perfectly achievable, but no-one would choose to input text this way.

Advances in neuroscience are legion, but we're centuries, certainly a massive advance in sensors and quantum computing, away from actually understanding the brain let alone reading the mind.

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Re: Sad

It is 99.9999% certain that you don't need quantum computing to "understand the brain" (it would help much anyway, people rarely want to perform large number factorizations)

Anyway, first pic on this article from the hive of ADHD called "Twitter"

"zuckerberg's vision: mulatto underclass clicking sponsored content all day; ruled over by autistic jew-asian elite. soylent only legal food."

The posting account has been purged in the meantime. Goodthink patrol dropped by I guess.

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Re: Sad

"Facebook sees such promise in virtual reality"

I could live with a strictly virtual Facebook... provided I do not have to use it myself.

As to visions of the future: why not put all the people immersed in AR into womb-like pods and harvest their body heat as an energy source? Hang on, wait a minute...

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>It is 99.9999% certain that you don't need quantum computing

Not a fan of Roger Penrose then?

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Re: Sad

Roger Penrose has only one fan. Roger Penrose.

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Trollface

Why All the need for tech to read minds

If Zucky asks I am more than willing to unleash my unfiltered thoughts verbally about him and flopbook

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A brain mouse for AR

Didn't Nintendo had something like that in the 1990ies?

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"Zuckerberg's absolutely mental"

If he has started to believe his own bullshit (and it looks like it), then yes.

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Missing the big picture

Zuckerberg doesn't have a soul. He knows it, and you know it. Just look at his eyes.

The reason Zuckerberg built facebook is because he believes he'll eventually be able to steal enough of your souls to create one of his own, and thus gain entry into the kingdom of heaven. Otherwise he'll be trapped in limbo (MySpace) forever.

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Re: Missing the big picture

Well, he is definitely trapped in HisSpace forever.

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m-k

"What if we make it possible to hear through your skin?"

I can hear (through my skin) vibration, louder and lounder, a stampede. I can see a cloud on the horizon. I can see the ad-men and adbots charging this way. I can smell their excitement. There are bad people heading this way :(

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Re: "What if we make it possible to hear through your skin?"

A Facebook employee identified as Francis has managed to learn nine words in this manner.

"oh god let me outta this machine just kill me kill me"

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Re: "What if we make it possible to hear through your skin?"

By the pricking f my thumbs....

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Re: "What if we make it possible to hear through your skin?"

"I can smell their excitement.."

Ah, another one of those odd English spellings, like "aluminium". We spell it "excrement" in the states.

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By the pricking if my thumbs..

..I know they're implanting the Facebook control sensors.

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100 WPM

100 WPM would give very incomplete data, way too low unless people were made to think slowly, which rather defeats the point.

Anyway, total fantasy on that timescale

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Pirate

Re: 100 WPM

it also assumes you think in "words". i write and speak in "words". thinking is more efficient without them.

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Write what you think

> "can type 100 words per minute straight from your brain."

Since people can't think at 100 wpm, this will just be an unfiltered feed of their consciousness. I would expect the "output" from such a system to be something like:

The minutes of the last meeting oooh, my nose itches are distributed wow look at her to the steering subcommittee WOW for their approval I feel a fart coming on. Having been approved I hope I don't sneeze it'll make the fart worse they will be sent to all the I wish that guy would stop talking so loudly other committee members is it lunchtime yet? who should complete their uh-oh, here it comes their actions before ACHOO damn! .... oh crap the next quarterly meeting I fancy the curry for lunch.

Though I can see that a largely unfiltered stream, straight from the brain, would start to drag psychoanalysis into the 18th century. And that the advent of actual data could end up giving it a basis similar to what Mendeleev did for chemistry.

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Re: Write what you think

I don't know if this is just me but if I try to verbalise a thought in my mind, I actually find that I think the thought first so I end up verbalising the thought al least twice (more if I consciously think about it). Assuming that this is normal behaviour and my mind hasn't been warped by years of The Register then wouldn't any 'write what you think' software end up printing both my intended verbalised thought, and the pre-verbalise thought which immediately proceeded the intended thought? So like you said, unless the software is going to perform some major filtering, most of what will be outputted will be noise (I was going to say crap but that doesn't really narrow things down much).

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Words per minute ???

Surely the wrong units; if you get a direct feed into the brain the units of information are going to be something like: memes or gestalts.

A word is only one way that we communicate these internal entities to others; it is because of the limitations of our input/output hardware (ears/mouth/...). If you can interact directly with the brain then you can access the underlying units of thought.

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Re: Words per minute ???

If you can interact directly with the brain then you can access the underlying units of thought.

But would two people -- even if they'd grown up in the same culture -- have the same mental representation of a meme? If you think of 'cat', do you hold the same identifiable imagery and associations which I do?

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Bunch of mealy mouthed morons

What they really think:

"Give everyone us the power to share get anything with from anyone."

"That will require AR glasses and those will be much more technologically challenging than VR headsets. In fact, the set of technologies needed to build them doesn't yet exist."

I'm sure Hololens and Google Glass are fascinated to discover that they don't exist in the FB world.

And their idea of an alternative sound feed is haptic sound translation done via skin and intensive training?

Sure, that might have, perhaps, medical applications for the seriously disabled (or military applications...).

But really most people just want subtitles or a dub (subtitles would work for deaf people as well) ...or some way of injecting the entire language directly into their brains without all that tedious learning!

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Re: Bunch of mealy mouthed morons

"That will require AR glasses and those will be much more technologically challenging than VR headsets. In fact, the set of technologies needed to build them doesn't yet exist."

I'm sure Hololens and Google Glass are fascinated to discover that they don't exist in the FB world.

Re-read the sentence "The true breakthrough will come when the real and virtual worlds can mix freely, wherever we are, whatever we're doing", and then contemplate to what extent Google Glass and Hololens actually deliver on that. They are, at best, very tentative first steps towards that kind of AR experience.

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Re: Bunch of mealy mouthed morons

So in other words, Dennō Coil.

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Share and enjoy

"Give everyone the power to share anything with anyone."

There are already caveats - sharing piccies of your naughty bits (or anyone else's) is evil of the most satanic type, and must never be allowed under any circumstances. Oh yes, and neither must piccies of a mummy feeding her baby.

I think that mission statement needs working on...

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Great! We need wetware to hardware interfaces as the first step of fully blending man and machine.

This is just the first step towards sublimation.

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Cultured Strange Days

Can I have the clicking sound with the 100 words p/m and no settings to turn them off?

Also what thoughts would it interpret when you accidently looked at T Mays knees?

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Re: Cultured Strange Days

Also what thoughts would it interpret when you accidently looked at T Mays knees?

I'm willing to bet that your brain would generate a different response to that image than would, say, the brain of Boris Johnson.

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Impedance missmatch.

Shakespeare wrote good stuff cos it was hard for him to get it onto paper and gave him time and the need to think about what he was writing.

Today it is a lot easier to put your thoughts on paper and we get the sun and the mail as you can write shit without thinking,

If your thoughts come out without thinking I really dread to think how seriously low the usable data rate will be.

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Re: Impedance missmatch.

Shakespeare also probably didn't have to face a deadline.

You can do things right, or you can do things fast.

The world today wants things done rightfast.

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DHS

How long before DHS asks you to wear one of these going into and out of America?

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Re: DHS

Since yesterday, citizen. Now bend over so this modified golf-ball detector can be inserted to scan your brain.

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To be fair the best solution for planet earth is to stick the 8 people who own 51% of the world's wealth in a hugh VR simulation without telling them and redistribute their money while they're gone. As such I support this initiative. :-)

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