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Decapitating Rockall: How a 1970s Navy expedition blasted the top off the Atlantic islet

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"some 460 km (290 miles) west of Great Britain..."

It's 90 miles closer to Donegal than it is to Britain.

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(Written by Reg staff)

And?

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And it's a disputed territory between Ireland and the UK.

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"It's 90 miles closer to Donegal than it is to Britain."

It didn't work for Argentina and the Falklands, it's not gonna work for you.

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I think the Scottish can have it. Ireland has a very nice chunk of clean Atlantic continental shelf in her EEZ. Certainly relative to her size and population density.

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Very interesting read. Thanks, Gareth.

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Re: It's 90 miles closer to Donegal than it is to Britain

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Scotland (the nearest permanently inhabited place is North Uist) is still part of Britain.

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Bah!

I say! Pipe down Wolftone and stop corking our juices!

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"It's 90 miles closer to Donegal than it is to Britain"

Never before have I felt compelled to say:

Cool story Bro...

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Made me remember Mr. Lester Haines in 2003 (or about that time).

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Indeed.

Rockall will always mean Lester to me.

Speaking of which ... Whatever became of the "podule" collective noun?

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A Register Rockall article?

Interesting read, but tinged with a little sadness. Still miss the great Lester Haines.

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Re: A Register Rockall article?

He was great to read, a sad loss for all.

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Rockall. What is it good for? Fuck all (it seems) !!!

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Extending the UK territorial claims to (possibly exclusive) fishing and mineral rights further into the Atlantic Ocean than previous limits?

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Here's a map of the agreed EEZ's. The UK doesn't have an awful lot considering her population density.Should Scotland claim the Northern part of the UK's EEZ, England and Wales would have very little to play with.

https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=cf9a73170fcd41ceb320e1292f5f9035

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"Here's a map of the agreed EEZ's. The UK doesn't have an awful lot considering her population density.Should Scotland claim the Northern part of the UK's EEZ, England and Wales would have very little to play with."

That might be, but consider that Great Britain still has a number of countries under its commonwealth. So take those in to consideration, compare them to what Scotland, Wales and Ireland have got, Britain isn't doing too badly.

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England and Britain are not interchangeable entities.

Commonwealth countries are entirely independent of the UK, even those which have the Queen as Head of State. You may have been thinking of the fourteen British Overseas Territories.

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EEZ

Interesting how much UK loses if Scotland leaves, EVEN if NI stays. If both leave it's a disaster.

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'Interesting how much UK loses if Scotland leaves'

It does depend to some extent on how the lines are drawn. Under the applicable UN Conventions where the land border isn't perpendicular to the coastline it continues out to sea in the original direction. This gives England a larger share of the North Sea than you might think.

Admittedly the SNP don't seem keen on that particular UN Convention...

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"Threre's fuckall on Rockall" was the strap line of the much missed The Rockall Times satirical website.

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" "Threre's fuckall on Rockall" was the strap line of the much missed The Rockall Times satirical website."

Indeed, remember it well. Poor old Alien is copping for down votes presumably from people who are a bit newer around here than we are!

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Get it right, BOY!!

There's Fuc*k all on Rockall

Yeah, rename it Haines Island. Deserved title.

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"Great Britain still has a number of countries under its commonwealth". Easy with the "under", unfair people could take you seriously.

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Interesting how much UK loses if Scotland leaves ...

That would really depend on your viewpoint and lifestyle. If you are a city dweller using public transport to commute, you won't loose much. If you are a mermaid / merman drilling for homeland gas to power your sports-amphibian vehicles, then you might have a lot to loose.

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>Should Scotland claim the Northern part of the UK's EEZ,

Wouldn't those go to an independent Orkneys - along with all the north sea oil

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"Extending the UK territorial claims to (possibly exclusive) fishing and mineral rights further into the Atlantic Ocean than previous limits?"

It would need to be permanently sustainably habitable - which it is not. Therefore the Territorial Sea gets extended around Rockall for 12 nautical miles - but not the EEZ.

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"It would need to be permanently sustainably habitable - which it is not. "

Why not? If someone lived on it for 45 days they could presumably have stayed forever... Water and other provisions can be delivered. And I assume there is no shortage of fish..

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Not Rockall

Isn't that actually a series of photos of Napoleon's Piano?

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"consider that Great Britain still has a number of countries under its commonwealth"

I think you must be looking at a hundred year old map of the world; The Commonwealth isn't a political union, and the United Kingdom government has no authority over any of the other Commonwealth Nations' territory, so it makes no difference to the Britain's access to economic resources.

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"consider that Great Britain still has a number of countries under its commonwealth"

Probably not even NI or Scotland soon...

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"consider that Great Britain still has a number of countries under its commonwealth"

There will possibly be some upheaval when the Queen dies. Apparently King Charles III doesn't inherit that Commonwealth mantle automatically.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge

After BREXIT the Spanish expect to annex Gibraltar.

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The Commonwealth isn't a political union, and the United Kingdom government has no authority over any of the other Commonwealth Nations' territory

Yeah but nah but err...

The Statute of Westminster, of 11 December 1931, was a British law clarifying the powers of the Commonwealth Dominions. It granted these former colonies full legal freedom except in those areas where they chose to remain subordinate to Britain.

Buuuuut as reaffirmed in a recent court case, there is the concept of parliamentary sovereignty (also called parliamentary supremacy or legislative supremacy) is a concept in the constitutional law of some parliamentary democracies. It holds that the legislative body has absolute sovereignty, and is supreme over all other government institutions, including executive or judicial bodies. It also holds that the legislative body may change or repeal any previous legislation, and so it is not bound by written law (in some cases, even a constitution) or by precedent

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Re: After BREXIT the Spanish expect to annex Gibraltar.

And when is Spain going to give Ceuta, Perejil, Melilla and the other 'plazas de soberanía' to Morocco?

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@Diogenes; Statute of Westminster

Parliament could indeed repeal the statutes that give effective independence to the dominions. It can also legislate to make it an offence to smoke on the streets of Paris (as a famous constitutional lawyer once wrote), but that does not mean that it could enforce those statutes in either case. Canada, Australia, New Zealand et al might just refuse to implement them.

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"After BREXIT the Spanish expect to annex Gibraltar."

They can expect whatever they like. It's not going to happen.

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You rotten swine! You beated me to it!

Indeed, a series of of photos of Napoleon's Piano were left there after the 1st Great attempt to "deaded" Rockall by Messr's Secombe & BlueBottle in 1958.

Listen Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I6wbUticic&feature=youtu.be&t=23m45s

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You can't get the wood you know.

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Eidelburger: "Strange, four legs on a piano?"

Eccles: "Hey, I keep falling over..."

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Rockall guardpost

Someone in a previous article commented about a photo of two guards and a guardsman's box atop Rockall.

Well, here it is: https://marccalhoun.blogspot.ca/2013/06/rockall.html

Silly buggers.

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For as long as we are able to temper the insanity of modern life with acts of such utter Britishness, we have nothing to fear.

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I miss Lester

I'll raise a pint tonite in honor of the late great Lester!

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Entertainment!

(There may be oil / under Rockall)

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(There may be oil / under Rockall)

Exactly. If it hadn't been for The Gang of Four I would never even heard of Rockall.

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Nowadays an expedition of that magnitude would seriously weaken the rest of the Navy.

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They would probably have to crowd-fund it.

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Heh that'll be a setting for Cthulhu then.

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I'm guessing the British Cthulhu would be Sir Walter R'lyeh?

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