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Speeding jet of Siberian liquid hot Magma getting speedier, satellites find

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I knew it.

"The jet is now travelling at up to 45 kilometres a year underneath Siberia towards Europe!!"

Scientist prove: EUROPE TARGETED BY RUSSIA!

Better increase NATO spending to 15% of GDP. Yeah, that will do nicely. And vote Clinton believe in the most ineffectual POTUS ever as he delivers huge turds on his way out.

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Re: I knew it.

Are you sure you didn't mean to write "turds on his way in" ?.

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Re: I knew it.

You forgot the sarcasm tags and the honorable mentioning of hacking.

As far as the POTUS, he has definitely gone into this modus operandi: http://www.km.ru/joke_day/791697

Translation: "What other dirty trick can I play (on my successor) at the last minute*"

(*) The fact that the successor deserves quite a few of them is a different story

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Re: I knew it.

Surely the most ineffectual president would be William Henry Harrison, who only served for one month and did basically nothing.

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At least Harrison had the decency to not invade any countries for spurious reasons.

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Surely the most ineffectual president would be William Henry Harrison,

There has not been any effectual presidents since FDR because Congress has repeatedly violated the separation of powers removing various powers from the executive branch in the name of oversight.

For example: every other country in the world, the executive branch presents a whole government to the legislative. Legislative has a take it or leave it choice. That is just for starters.

Instead of oversight, however, Congress has introduced direct control. While the two are similar, they are not equivalent. At least according to Merriam Webster. This is by the way at all levels. The same thing is happening at state level too.

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"At least Harrison had the decency to not invade any countries for spurious reasons."

Well exactly. Isn't invading random countries the raison d'être of the USA?

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It's all that nasty Mr Putin's fault....

Henri

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The mind boggles

Science is truly astounding. I applaud any progress in our understanding of the Universe we live in, and this is indeed progress.

Now, since we seem to be getting insights on the activity of Earth's core, would it be possible that this tech improve our understanding of earthquakes and, therefore, their prediction ?

I hope so.

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More likely it will improve our understanding of the weather. That heat is the same heat that comes up to the surface, so if it produces even a mildly different surface temperature that will warm the air in different places enough to disturb the air. This could quite easily be the root cause of the jetstream moving about as well as variances in weather over decade time periods which many refer to as "climate change". I'm not saying there isn't climate change here, I'm saying shorter term shifts may be explainable with this information.

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Re: The mind boggles

@Lusty. More likely you're talking out of your arse. Why not save someone the bother and do a little bit of research before you post?

"The flow of heat from Earth's interior to the surface is estimated at 47 terawatts (TW). Despite its geological significance, this heat energy coming from Earth's interior is actually only 0.03% of Earth's total energy budget at the surface, which is dominated by 173,000 TW of incoming solar radiation."

Given that the Earth's insolation "variation during solar cycle 21 was about 0.1% (peak-to-peak)", your claim that geothermal energy affects the weather seems unlikely, given that it changes vary little over time. Whatever, it's the fucking flaming thing in the sky that does the weather!

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Re: The mind boggles

@symon - whereas you raise a valid point, albeit a little testy, surely any chaotic system, or to put it another way, any system that has a sensitive dependence on initial conditions, can mean a markedly different outcome with this relatively small amount of energy and its own variance when added to the whole?

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Re: The mind boggles

@m0rt, thank you for your reply. I nearly added something to my post about weather being chaotic, but I thought that might distract from my main point, which is that the Earth's insolation _varies_ by about three times as much as the _total_ energy from geothermal sources at the surface. Even in chaotic systems, you need to look at the main driver first. If you're in an F5 tornado, you're not gonna worry about a butterfly flapping its wings.

Now, don't get me wrong, I think it's certainly true that geology affects the weather and climate. All those moving continents make huge differences. So do massive volcanic eruptions. Those things amplify the sun's affect on the weather. What got me 'testy' was someone claiming that the heat from a bit of moving magma deep in the bowels of the Earth could affect the weather without providing one jot of evidence that this is at all likely. And then they throw in that it could be the "root cause of the jetstream" as if this offers some validity to the nonsense being spouted. FWIW, the 'root cause' of the jetstream is fairly well understood. Spoiler alert:- 'It's not geothermal energy'!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_stream#Cause

That said, I gratefully accept the rebuke for being grumpy, but, as Richard Dawkins quoted, "Science is interesting and if you don't agree you can fuck off". Happy New Year!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysxG5jFeTME

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Well met.

"Those things amplify the sun's affect on the weather. What got me 'testy' was someone claiming that the heat from a bit of moving magma deep in the bowels of the Earth could affect the weather without providing one jot of evidence that this is at all likely. "

He postulated a theory - possibly based out of ignorance of other facts, I can't know that because I am ignorant about what he is ignorant about, and I also may be ignorant of those things which he is also ignorant about, but...postulating a theory, which you then came back with a well formed reply, shouldn't warrant a rebuke. He should be encouraged to ask questions, share the knowledge, so we all rise higher. (Gosh, exercising in the morning really *does* give you a positive outlook...)

Richard Dawkins isn't necessarily a role model for human interaction.

Happy new year to you too! :)

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"He should be encouraged to ask questions" Of course. But, sadly, maybe the Register forums isn't the best place to get such encouragement. Anyway, if Lusty complains to me, I'll try and be nice. Who knows, maybe Lusty is a troll who's laughing at all this brouhaha! And how do you know that 'Lusty' is male?

"Richard Dawkins isn't necessarily a role model for human interaction." How about Stewart Lee?

"In the past few months, I’ve become religious, I’ve started to believe in God, creationism and intelligent design, and the reason that I now believe in God and creationism and intelligent design is because of Professor Richard Dawkins. Because when I look at something as complex and intricate and beautiful as Professor Richard Dawkins, I don’t think that just could’ve evolved by chance! Professor Richard Dawkins was put there by God to test us, like fossils. And facts."

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"But, sadly, maybe the Register forums isn't the best place to get such encouragement."

This is our chance! We can change this. I want to believe...

Stewart Lee is a role model on how to deal with role models. Especially if your role model happens to be someone from UKIP...

"And how do you know that 'Lusty' is male?"

I don't. But the thought did cross my mind. But then, odds are in my favour... :)

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A weirdly shouty response from someone who clearly didn't understand what I was saying. In future try asking for more information, you might learn something.

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"Earth's Missing Geothermal Flux" at FauxScienceSlayer

Government controlled science LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING.

"Volcanic CO2" at Geologist-1011 website....

Massive amounts of heat and elemental gases escape unmonitored along

a hundred thousand miles of deep sea floor rift zones....

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I am eagerly awaiting an utterly atrocious and unbelievable disaster movie based on this.

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Given how "fast" this "jet" moves it'll be all in slow motion..

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@Vince. Magmanado. Enough Said.

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I can't see anything (after a 5 second search) with that title - but if there is something, the title is now lodged in the back of my mind, so if it appears somewhere I'll recognise it and make a point of watching it. :)

(Which I probably would anyway!)

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Re: Magmanado.

Needs some sharks thrown in for good measure

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"Given how "fast" this "jet" moves it'll be all in slow motion.."

Well, given that Bruce Willis is over 60 now...

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movie...

Unfortunately, it has been done already. The movie is called "The core". And I will give it a pass.

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"so if it appears somewhere I'll recognise it and make a point of watching it. :)"

Here it is!

(Link to Daily Mail deliberately chosen to test your resolve) ☺

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I'm not clicking on a Daily Mail link - but looking at the link itself...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2747719/What-happens-tornado-meets-volcano-Footage-reveals-3-300ft-column-gas-fire-swirling-Bardarbunga.html

WTF!? Daily Mail has a science / tech section?

Also, @JetSemSim I was pleased to discover recently that there is a Sharknado 4 (I've seen 1-3) and according to IMDB a #5 is in the works for this year. :)

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@VinceH : "WTF!? Daily Mail has a science / tech section?"

Some years back, the _Weekly World News_ (US tabloid) frequently had articles with headlines such as WILD WEST TOWN FOUND ON VENUS! and HUBBLE TAKES PICTURES OF HEAVEN! and (when the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 hit Jupiter) JUPITER RADIOS EARTH FOR HELP! Plus, of course, numerous asteroids that were going to hit Earth and wipe out humanity... it was clear that somebody at WWN had an interest in science, though from the Dark Side.

As a guy with a then-recent degree in physics and an interest in astronomy and creative writing, I did think that a job with WWN as their science correspondent might be fun.

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"the Sun is not hidden from us by 3,000 km of rock"

Hah! It's four times that, at night!

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And even more during a Solar Eclipse...

:)

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Unobtainium

We needs it!

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Perspective

Just for some perspective, 45km / year is 1.5mm / second.

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Which interestingly is roughly half the slowest snail's pace. Allegedly.

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Why did I look at the headline and think of a Russian curry??

Please pass the chilli flavoured vodka

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red peril!

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i don't know about the rest of you . . . but i'm panicking!

[ it's apparently what my countrymen (left side of the pond) want me to do in every situation ]

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Odd that nobody yet has blamed this on global warming...it won't be long, I'm sure.

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