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Just in time for the holiday shopping season, Apple has unveiled its latest method for separating fanbois from their hard-earned money. The Cupertino creator of Sherlock has released a hardcover printed book called Designed By Apple in California that showcases Apple hardware designs. Sir Jony Ive says the book is aimed not …

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  1. MrDamage Silver badge

    FTFY

    > "While this is a design book, it is not about the design team, the creative process, or product development. It is a guide on how to rip off designs from Braun, and claim them as your own when others copy your copy."

    1. Whitter
      Trollface

      Re: FTFY

      While this is a design book, it is not about the design team, the creative process, or product development. It is a veblen-good that enables you to preen even more than your hipster rival next door. We suggest leaving your apple watch beside the book for a double-whammy.

    2. Dave 126 Silver badge

      Re: FTFY

      - You can't just rip off a Braun design for a different product and have it work.

      - You can adhere to Dieter Ram's design principals, but to do so takes time and effort. This is analogous to coding - just because good principals can be concisely written down doesn't mean that it is straightforward to produce good code.

      - Rams wasn't working in a vacuum. He was part of a lineage, as contemporary designers are today. See the 'Zeiss Werra' camera from the early 1950's.

      - The designs that made Ive's name didn't look anything like Braun's products.

      The reason I'm defending Product Design (and not Ive per se) is that there is so much shit design out there, and it is irritating on a daily basis like a door handle with a sharp edge or a USB-A cable that only goes in its socket 50% of the time.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: FTFY

        a USB-A cable that only goes in its socket 50% 33% of the time

        FTFY

        1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

          Re: FTFY

          That's because they operate at quantum levels as yet not fully understood.

          It is easily tested: try to plug an USB-A cable in any USB socket. It doesn't fit. Rotate plug 180°. It doesn't fit. Rotate plug 180°. Plug fits.

          1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge

            Re: FTFY

            HOLY FERMIONS!

            PRAISE BE!

  2. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge
    Trollface

    Apple's book is on your coffee table

    But there are iFixit teardowns stashed in your bedroom.

  3. Barbarian At the Gates
    Coat

    Genius of a different stripe

    Do it in white, make it pricy, offer it in two sizes, and charge $100 more for the upgrade.

    I'm seeing some old fashioned Apple genius involved here...not sure if it's "design" so much as some other category...

    1. Voland's right hand Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Genius of a different stripe

      You forgot the rounded corners.

      1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

        Re: Genius of a different stripe

        Curses, I got up too late and you beat me to it!

        Have an upvote.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Genius of a different stripe

          The rounded book corners have been patented by someone in the Battlestar Galactica universe.

          No wait, these were cut-off corners.

          "All this has happened before. And it will happen again."

          1. Robert Helpmann??
            Childcatcher

            Re: Genius of a different stripe

            The book, replete with 450 images, will be offered in two sizes...

            Yes, yes, but does it come in black?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Genius of a different stripe

      please point out the 'genius' - all i notice is Apple taking the p*ss

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Genius of a different stripe

        Anyone can take the p*ss, getting people to fall for it is the Genius.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The new, New Testament.

    There's nothing like Prior Design, when it comes to the Bible.

    (I assume they have a picture on Page 1, of the Magic Mouse 2 charging, as the pièces de ré·sis·tance of design, that, or the Apple Pencil charging, sticking out the side of an iPad Pro).

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I was going to buy one...

    ... but then I remembered that I'm entirely content with the size of my wedding tackle...

    1. Teiwaz

      Re: I was going to buy one...

      Buy one anyway,

      You can rest it on the coffee table to impress any hipster friends, which is something you can't do with your wedding tackle (although I suppose it depend on how content you are, and your circle of friends).

      'Buy more now, buy, and be happy' - THX1138

  6. goldcd

    They can't help themselves, can they?

    *CLEARLY* this is designed to be solely flopped out on the veneer of your local apple-store, to add some interest. Although maybe would have been wise to remove the 2nd-"samey"-half.

    Selling it though?

    Kind-of misses the point. I personally would love to get an insight into Apple's industrial design process - the people, the motivations, the conflicts, the resolutions - blunty what would make it interesting.

    "Here's what we made".. that's not interesting, and devalues the process. Sure, "Steve liked it", is a process - but maybe a bit of vision would be of benefit in these cynical times.

    1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: They can't help themselves, can they?

      THE BOOK OF THE MOVIE OF THE SOUNDTRACK OF THE EPIC OPERA OF CORPY APPLE AND THE HOLY GIMMICK

      By Sir Johnny (Jony?) Ive (Yves?), designer famous for being designer at Corpy Apple.

      Contains real ashes of Steve Jobs!

      No longer uses medieval binding, now held together at the spine by special Apple Glue!

      1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

        Re: They can't help themselves, can they?

        Jonathan, actually.

        Not that it matters in any way.

  7. Dan 55 Silver badge

    Who's in charge anyway?

    Tim's been replaced with a Thunderbirds puppet and Jony's the one pulling the strings while he's not busy gluing up computers and publishing books saying how great he is.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    OK, I'm an idiot...but I want a copy! Pure apple porn.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      as you yourself said ....

    2. Vector

      "Pure apple porn."

      Silly goose! That's what the internet is for!

  9. psychonaut

    Get aluminium. Get glue. Make components accessible. ..no fuck that, let's make them take the flimsy glass plate off then the screen too, more glue. Deliberately cripple thermal sensor so you can't change hard drive. Put really strong magnets next to the screws that hold the screen in so it takes fucking ages to put them back in. Now the mac book. ..how many screws for the keyboard. 20? Nah...fuck em, make it 50 and get this, make em tiny. Make retina screen changeable? Nah make em replace the whole top half. Mix it all up in a blender. More aluminium. Bosch. Job done.

    Love, Johnny.

  10. Ralph B

    That Explains a Lot

    Well, at least we finally know what Jony Ive has been doing instead of working on new Apple products.

    > low-ghost ink

    And a nod towards the workers at Foxconn. That's nice.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I'll wait for the £30 knockoffs on Alibaba which will be indistinguishable.

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      Wait for the free scans for e-readers that will appear on the web.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      i wouldn't pay 30p for it ... its an advert, and thus, spam.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Don't wait for the second edition

      It'll be thinner and you won't be able to open it.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Macbook Pro 15" £2699 for 512GB + £100 for new dongles.

    I currently run an Macbook Pro with 8GB and an after market 512GB SDD, to get the latest and greatest, I need to outlay £2699, plus £100 on dongles. Yet this model has a 4-5 week delivery time.

    Who's buying these? Or is this just hyped scarcity?

    Last year, I needed a stop-gap machine, I managed to get a deal on a 15.4" HP 450 G3 AMD Laptop for £80 all in, once trade-in £150 (a very old XP Desktop) and cashback £75 came through. It's really not awful, its actually an OK machine. Brushed aluminium finish. It had Window 7 Pro (or a choice of Windows 8.1 Pro). Runs Windows 10 AU 1607 fine.

    The manufacturing differences between HP/Apple here are minute. Apple are getting almost evangelical in their belief People will keep on buying into this. I like Macs/macOS, but £2699 + dongles £100 is just taking it a tad far.

    I genuinely don't feel that 'productive' as a cog within the bigger wheel to justify this expense, even though I'm perfectly entitled to order one.

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      Re: Macbook Pro 15" £2699 for 512GB + £100 for new dongles.

      Back in the 90s one of my bosses decided he wanted the latest and greatest Compaq laptop and we splurged over £5K for it. Turned out to be an overheating dog of a product but he was happy.

    2. Wensleydale Cheese

      Re: Macbook Pro 15" £2699 for 512GB + £100 for new dongles.

      "The manufacturing differences between HP/Apple here are minute. Apple are getting almost evangelical in their belief People will keep on buying into this. I like Macs/macOS, but £2699 + dongles £100 is just taking it a tad far.:

      The differentiator is the operating system and standard apps, plus goodies like a free development toolchain.

      IOW the O/S isn't really free.

  13. Mr F&*king Grumpy

    when I were a lad

    Pre-1998 is covered by a hefty tome called "Apple Design - The Work of the Apple Industrial Design Group". Can't remember how much it cost but it was a normal price for its size. It is full of information on the design of everything from the original Mac to the 20th Anniversary Mac, including many projects that never got into production. Lots of photos, but a lot of dense text too. It actually has real educational value for product design and product and software usability students.

    Full of ideas, inventiveness and originality, including some awesomely daft ideas.

    The total reverse of today's Jonny Ive's self-inflating fluff.

    1. Dave 126 Silver badge

      Re: when I were a lad

      I had a similar book 'Digital Dreams - The Work of the Sony Design Centre'. It was full of concept sketches, design iterations and interviews - as well as product porn. The Esslinger-era Mac designs are cited by the designer of the PlayStation and VAIO range.

      Apple's most famous designs from before the return of Jobs were out-sourced.

    2. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      Re: when I were a lad

      That would be the phase when a lot of the work was done by Frog Design.

  14. frank ly

    An overused word

    "It is an objective representation of our work that, ironically, describes who we are."

    Does it really/effectively describe who they are and if it does then is that really irony?

    1. badger31

      Re: An overused word

      I think the Irony was the price.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: An overused word

      Well, yes, literally it means that the book describes who they are by saying the opposite with a nudge and a wink.

      I'm not quite sure where that takes us, except to conclude that Mr. Ives did well to go into design rather than any occupation that needs a good knowledge of English.

  15. Mage Silver badge
    Coffee/keyboard

    Marketing not Design

    They like to pretend that rather plain shapes with generic insides (Jony doesn't actually do anything except appearance), mostly copied from Braun and Dieter Rams is their secret. But it's the marketing. The iTunes and record deals for iPod and the carrier data deals for iPhone.

    Students of Industrial design would be wasting money on this piece of vanity publishing that can be got up in a slide show from Wikipedia if you really wanted.

    1. Ivan Headache

      Re: Marketing not Design

      I don't know why people keep saying "mostly copied from Braun and Dieter Rams" and why people believe it because it's utter bull-shit.

      So many time I have tried to argue this fallacy but no - the know-it-alls say it is so so it must be true.

      It isn't.

      Have any of these clever-dicks - Mage for example - actually looked properly at Braun's designs?

      I seriously doubt it.

      I have here on my desk, a catalogue of Dieter Rams' work at Braun. As it's also a discussion of his work it also includes work by other designeers under his guidance at Braun.

      There are only two items in it that remotely - REMOTELY - resemble anything that could have been copied by Apple. One is a rather nice desk-top cigarette lighter, the other is a hifi loudspeaker cabinet. Yes they are white and they have round corners - but there is also a lot of black on them just as there is on a lot of Braun's products. Black knobs, black switches, black grills.

      I don't see anything like that on Apple products. In fact what I do see with Apple products is the continuation of Rams' design philosophy:-

      "Product design is the organisation of the total of a product (form, surface, colour, product graphics) – in such a way that the product fulfils its given purpose as efficiently as possible. It should also conform to the factual conditions and requirements under which the product is to be produced and marketed"

      Dieter Rams, 1975.

      and

      "Good design is functional or usable and practical design. But good design is also aesthetic design. As a designer I shun these discussions on the aesthetic quality of the product. I do so, even though I am a firm believer in the importance of aesthetic quality. The aesthetic quality of design is always a matter of nuances. Often, of only fractions of millimetres, of the finest graduations, or of the harmony between a number of visual elements. Changing a trivial element changes the whole impression. Reduce a product by one millimeter here it looks out of proportion; add a millimetre there, it looks clumsy. Only those who have had years of experience on the trained eyeI are capable of seriously participating in the discussions."

      Dieter Rams, 1980

      Rams has also publicly stated his admiration of Ive's work (but I can't find that quote).

      However, just to shoot myself in the foot - I do think that the external DVD drive that Apple currently sells looks very Dieter.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Marketing not Design

        >There are only two items in it that remotely - REMOTELY - resemble anything that could have been copied by Apple.

        There's none so blind...

        >Rams has also publicly stated his admiration of Ive's work (but I can't find that quote).

        He said Apple were one of the few companies which still followed his 10 principles of design. Ive certainly makes no secret of it - he even wrote the foreword to Dieter Ram's last book.

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Wankers

  17. James 51
    Boffin

    Libraries.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "libraries"

      if my local library gets this, they'll stop getting book donations

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        if my local library gets this, they'll stop getting book donations

        That's probably alright, I doubt they want anymore of your Twilight fan-fiction anyway...

  18. M man

    Who?

    If you cant afford iStuff.....you cant afford this.

    And who pays 300$ for pictures off stuff YOU ALREADY OWN....

    1. Allonymous Coward

      Corollary: if you can afford iStuff, you can probably afford this.

      And if you're a true fanboi you'll probably think it's a great idea too.

      I expect to see copies adorning coffee tables in the reception areas of design agencies, Silicon Roundabout startups, etc etc.

      1. Captain DaFt

        "I expect to see copies adorning coffee tables in the reception areas of design agencies, Silicon Roundabout startups, etc etc."

        OH! I get it now! Presence of the book is a secret sign and a warning: "Here Be Pretentious Wankers".

        OK, in that case, the book is worth every penny!

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "And who pays 300$ for pictures off stuff YOU ALREADY OWN"

      Rich Dutch merchants. A lot of the Dutch Old Masters are actually product porn, and cost a good deal more than $300.

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