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It has been an odd day for Newsweek – its main site was taken offline after it published a story claiming a company owned by Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump broke an embargo against doing deals with Cuba. The magazine first thought that the sheer volume of interest in its scoop was the cause for the outage, but …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I wish I had the literary dexterity to properly lambaste Trump to the degree that he deserves, because the more I think about him the more my vocabulary degrades into four letter swearwords, repeated over and over, and I don't want to stoop to the level of his supporters so I'll just end with a line from the literary genius of others; he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

    1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Don't worry ... Trump does it himself

      During the debate, Trump said very little about Alicia Machado. The most memorable line was "Where did you find this?" (It is in a book he "wrote"). Afterwards, Trump went on a Twitter rant. Clearly he did a porn search, found lot of results but did not understand that occasionally the porn industry is not completely honest about who is in their videos.

      During the debate Trump also falsely claims to have been against Iraq war 2 from the start. He also claimed that Hillary's staff started the "Obama not born in the US" lies and the he stopped his birtherism claims on September 2016 because Obama published his birth certificate in 2011. (Trump has a real problem with dates, blaming Hillary for things done by President Cheney Bush.)

      I am sure we can expect a continuous stream of anti-Trump stories direct from the man himself all the way up to the election.

    2. Voland's right hand Silver badge

      I wish I had the literary dexterity to properly lambaste Trump

      So do I. As I do not, I read Marina's rants:

      What Citizen Trump can’t stand – the story is of Melania, not him

      Nigel Farage: from Brexit hero to Trump’s little helper. That’s some career path

      Some of the best stuff written on the subject - I give it my kids as a reading material: "Learn how to be insulting on a Gigaton scale without using a single swear word".

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      > the more I think about him the more my vocabulary degrades into four letter swearwords, repeated over and over, and I don't want to stoop to the level of his supporters

      Hasn't it generally been the people protesting Trump's candidacy that are the ones constantly screaming obscenities at peaceful rally-goers?

      1. Hollerithevo

        a.c.

        No, it has not.

      2. Rich 11

        peaceful rally-goers

        Aren't those the ones with the concealed-carry permits?

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Ha ha, no that's not what happens at all.

        But nice try.

        In fact those "peaceful rally-goers" have physically attacked non-violent protestors on numerous occasions. You can actually look this stuff up.

    4. bombastic bob Silver badge
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      " wish I had the literary dexterity to properly lambaste Trump to the degree that he deserves,"

      how brave of you, A.C. - multi-downvotes from me ( but only one was counted )

    5. Oh Homer
      Mushroom

      Don't worry, no eloquence required

      Trump's a white-collar gangster.

      It's that simple.

      Sadly he's far from unique, except in the sense that he's too stupid to know when to keep his mouth shut.

      I'm not sure that makes him any worse than the rest, just more conspicuous. More worrying is the fact that this particular loud-mouthed, white-collar gangster is probably about to occupy the greatest position of power on Earth.

      There can be only one of two outcomes: either his obnoxiousness completely isolates America, crushing American hegemony once and for all, or ...

      Well, you know the rest.

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: Don't worry, no eloquence required

        "Trump's a white-collar gangster.

        It's that simple."

        I thought he was a deep sleeper agent for Putin. Once elected, he'll dismantle the military and give Putin all the passwords for the innernets.

    6. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "get your site smashed offline from Russia"

      They must have pretty minimal DOS protection if traffic from a 3rd world country like Russia causes them problems...

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Despair

    If he wins I'm gonna have to figure out where, exactly, I can move to escape all possible fallout (in any sense)

    This ddos is quite sinister, unprovable but suspect as Saville in an orphanage.

    1. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge
      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Despair

        I suggest the good doctor hide under the bed. It's traditional in these cases.

        1. Captain Badmouth
          Big Brother

          Re: Despair

          "I suggest the good doctor hide under the bed. It's traditional in these cases."

          What? With all those commies? WTF?

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Despair

            Excuse me, there's no room under this bed. My friend Jeremy has his pals over ....

    2. Notas Badoff
      WTF?

      Re: Despair

      I'm using this election as a worst-case benchmark - what proportion of people are simply irremediably stupid/antisocial/uncaring in voting.

      My thought until now has been that about 1/3 of the people will always vote Republican just'cuz daddy did and about 1/3 of the people will always vote Democrat cuz'justice! Thus there really is just a small middle portion of the voters that can actually be influenced.

      Now take away those that will vote based on some cutesy sound-bite like "I'm a uniter, not a divider" and you realize everything hinges on maybe a fifth to a sixth of people who can be influenced *rationally*.

      Hell, there are even people who _will_ vote for a candidate that can't think of a single foreign leader!! And *they* swear they are the *most* rational!

      I think America ought to take out the part of the constitution that says a candidate for president must be native-born. America desperately needs to import brains!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Despair

        I think that so far the American people have proven to not really care about the alleged brainpower of their candidates. Case in point, The Orange Man (c) does not really strike me as an intelligent person. In the past, elected presidents have often been proven to be the intellectual runt of the litter.

        Unfortunately we can safely state that even if you import the top 10 of intelligent, educated, empathic and suitable candidates for the post of president of the US they wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of being elected.

        Equally unfortunately, the situation is much the same in the rest of the world.

        The problem lies not with inferior candidates. It is inferior voters.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Despair

          I wonder who the lone nuts down voting me and you are? Russian hackers who can't figure out my password?

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Despair

            Haha, more thumbs down.

            God forbid you aren't delirious enough to think Trump and anyone who supports him is a dangerous loon.

            1. GrumpenKraut
              Pint

              Re: Despair

              > Haha, more thumbs down.

              Never mention the d*wnvotes, they tend to wake up and come after you, irrespective of what you have written.

              Upvote & pint for balance ---------->

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Unhappy

          Re: Despair ; The problem lies not with inferior candidates. It is inferior voters.

          that's my real issue with modern democracy

          1. P. Lee

            Re: Despair ; The problem lies not with inferior candidates. It is inferior voters.

            The candidates aren't inferior, they just have different objectives from the voters and the parties have worked really hard to create such polarisation and institutional inertia, that apathy is the natural response to two bad candidates, neither of whom would change anything. Which is what those with large purses want.

            So people vote for the firework display.

        3. SL1979

          Re: Despair

          This is exactly why I get simultaneously excited and depressed when I think about someone like Neil DeGrasse Tyson running for President. Yeah, he would in all likelihood, be one of the most sensible, logical, rational candidates that I could ever hope for in a contender. However, that being said, most Americans, judging by the lack of critical thinking during this three-ring circus of an election process, don't have any desire for logic, reason, sensibility, moderation, or diplomacy. That's seriously one of the most depressing things about the human race, at this moment in history. We can send a man to the moon, but we can't harness the power of critical thinking when it comes to electing people who are, one way or the other, chosen to represent us. You know, the government that exists to represent our best interests. We've forgotten about the government that was designed, with the intention of said elected officials actually being elected to be representatives of their constituency -- of the people, by the people, and for the people.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Despair

        Based on recent UK experience ... 52%

    3. Voland's right hand Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Despair

      There is no place on Earth which will remain unaffected once a person with his temperament and mental faculties has been given access to the launch codes.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        "given access to the launch codes"

        The man carrying 'The Football' will know that the launch codes in the briefcase will have been replaced with a stun gun and a straight-jacket. He'll have strict orders to disable and hog-tie President Trump in any such case.

        Trump would be bundled off, disappeared and subsequently impeached.

        Trump is unstable. The military leadership aren't going to take orders from a nutter. The Pentagon generals probably have plans for a lovely dinner on any given evening; and they'll not have those plans ruined by an unnecessary thermonuclear war.

        There are 'humans in the loop' for a reason.

        1. Tom Paine
          Mushroom

          Re: "given access to the launch codes"

          Well, you *could* be right - I hope to god you are! - but how would you be prepared to bet your life on it? What 7 billion lives?

          Icon for illustrative purposes only.

        2. veti Silver badge

          Re: "given access to the launch codes"

          So, the best you can find to say of Trump is that he wouldn't be allowed to do anything in office, and would lead instead to a military coup in the USA?

          Now there's something to look forward to.

    4. JeffyPoooh
      Pint

      Re: Despair

      Cape Breton if Trump Wins.

      http://cbiftrumpwins.com/#intro

      I'm not sure if it's outside the fallout zone. Probably not.

      But it's quite lovely, and 99.44% Trump free.

    5. Tom Paine

      Re: Despair

      Bit of a tangent.

      I've thought about that. Put yourself in the position of a missile command planner working on targets for an all-out attack (whether retaliatory or first-strike). Looking at the UK, for instance: Obviously London, Manchester, Liverpool, Glasgow,.. all the major cities. You can work down the list by order of population. Then chuck in any significant infrastructure and known military sites. You're probably now looking at a map that's mostly obliterated by large red circles. I imagine the only bits left would be some of central Wales, some of Northumbria, the Highlands.

      Now you have 400 more wild-card warheads to try to catch all the military bases, command bunkers, missile silos and whatnot that you *don't* know about.

      (Oh yeah, and consider that Cork, say, or Limerick might make a usable base for any RN vessels or surviving NATO aircraft returning to find the UK a smoking cinder.)

      AFAICT your best bets are sub-Saharan Africa or South America, being sure to keep at least 50 - 100km between you and the nearest city. Prevailing winds would also be a factor (though who knows what the nuclear winter would do to ocean basin / continent scale climates?)

      Then you have to consider not only the standard survivalist stuff about food, fuel, water and other consumables, but also consider the Montana model of rampaging mobs of starving radioactive survivors hunting for signs of people with stashes of food, fuel, water,.. d'you want to rely on hiding? Or defending yourself with force? You're almost immediately into Bond villain levels of insanity; it's just not practical. Much better to make sure you're within a few miles of major targets so you get vapourised nice and quickly before you know what's going on. Sleep well!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Despair

        @Tom Paine. - yep. during my teens the fact that the Cold War was going on didn't make my depression any worse after I noted that where I lived was almost equidistant from 3 or4 RAF bases.Allowing for multiple warheads and misses, I'd probably have been vapourised, so it wasn;t worth thinking about surviving that I just concentrated on mundande stuff. Always a silver lining...

    6. Jeffrey Nonken

      Re: Despair

      I keep thinking about Iceland.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Unhappy

    Trump will win

    For the similar reasons that Brexit happened: because a sizeable number of people are getting very fed up being told how little and stupid they are, how their views don't matter, are wrong all the time by people like us - why do always we think we know better? - and 'the media' - an aloof set of deeply arrogant and rigid people who all have the same opinions and who tolerate no disagreement and no deviation - getting spiteful, childish or just plain vicious if anyone dares to question that their narrative is not the only one. It's not even the most common one.

    Trump will win mainly because he's not Clinton, who talks the (perfectly focus group scripted) talk very well, and can sure reel off plausible sounding statements as if they were facts, but has done nothing for anyone ever but herself and her very ill looking husband. Clinton is in it entirely for herself. Trump is in it just for him. They both have deep, fundamental and troubling issues, shall we say.

    Before the downvotes start, this is not an endorsement; it's a prediction.

    I don't envy America's choice one bit.

    1. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge

      Re: Trump will win

      OTOH, there are a lot of Americans who are Republican through and through who are not going to vote for DT simply because it is DT and they regard him as unsutable to be President.

      His rants about a woman who my have appeard in a porn film and dared to speak up against him are pitiful but large parts of (Sad to say this) 'Trailer Trash American' will lap it up. Many of them won't vote for Hillary because she is a woman and they still think that a woman's place is in the home.

      Sad to say, I think he will win and that won't be good for anyone but Trump and his pal Putin.

      Just watch Dr Strangelove for my opinion of him.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Trump will win

        I think Idiocracy is more appropriate

        Even the guys behind the film are dismayed to find their predictions of the far future realised in only a decade.

        1. innominatus

          Re: Trump will win

          Anyone seen Scott Adams' blog (dilbert.com) for a view on why Trump has got this far?

      2. Dr_N

        Re: Trump will win

        "OTOH, there are a lot of Americans who are Republican through and through who are not going to vote for DT simply because it is DT and they regard him as unsutable to be President."

        Don't kid yourself.

        You think America will just roll over and let England win the "Dumbest Vote Result 2016" award without a fight?

        1. BongoJoe

          Re: Trump will win

          United Kingdom != England

          <sigh />

          1. Dr_N

            Re: Trump will win

            "United Kingdom != England"

            In a post brexit world we can (and should) start seeing people using "England" more where as before they would have used "UK" or "GB".

            Fair's fair.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Trump will win

            "United Kingdom != England"

            United Kingdom ~= England

            The other bits are nowhere near as significant in pretty much any context....

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Trump will win

      Stopped reading after Brexit

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Stop

        Re: Trump will win

        Failure to even find out about the view of others is why we are where we are, AC. For all your smugness you're just another contributing factor. Your sort pretty much guarantee Trump's sort.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Trump will win

        "Stopped reading after Brexit"

        You've read nothing since 23rd June? Impressed.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Trump will win

          just to be clear, the Daily Fail doesn't count as reading .....

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Trump will win

        "Stopped reading after Brexit"

        That's strange. I know a few people who stopped reading anything intelligent a long while before voting for it

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Trump will win

      Bit alarmed you spent more of that post lambasting Clinton.

      Not that she's sound- I get the unmistakable air of sociopath - but on a Trump topic and the fact it's Trump means he should get an 80/20 share of any shellacking and unfortunately Hillary remains the only one worth voting for.

    4. Voland's right hand Silver badge

      Re: Trump will win

      For the similar reasons that Brexit happened: because a sizeable number of people are getting very fed up being told how little and stupid they are

      Not quite. Everything which they were told about "the interest of British Industry" was phrased literally as "in the interest of the Fat Cats".

      Even if the people were _NOT_ going to vote Exit, the way the advantages were presented to them alienated them straight away. Not surprising, considering that the "Remain" campaign head was more or less an exclusive Fat Cat club. Even if they truly wanted to present an argument geared towards the intended audience, they would have been unable to so as they have no clue what to say as they have never earned an honest living in their entire life. Pretty much every single one of them. They presented THEIR argument all right. With the expected result.

      That is slightly different (and not in a good way) from Clinton vs Trump. Clintons have a record in providing "interests of the industry" (NAFTA, TTIP, etc) which Joe Assembly Line worker associates with Fat Cats getting fatter and him getting poorer. She has, however, turned 180 degrees on that now so at the very least she is not trying to do the Fat Cat argument any more. However, with her record so far that may be worse than trying to present the non-Fat Cat arguments as what she has done is not forgotten and she now looks to be insincere about it.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Trump will win

        @Volands righ hand - well said! it pains me how many that were in the Remain camp still don;t get that the problem was mainly that all we ever heard was that the EU and immigration was good for the economy. And so they have been, but the trouble is that what the bulk of us have seen in the UK is the fat cats getting fatter and austerity for the rest of us, and a complete refusal to admit that there can be a negative side to immigration if too many of the immigrants are not well integrated. with the native society.

        Trouble is the Fat Cats want to have the benefits of untrammeled immigration ( cheaper production costs for them) without paying for the necessary to ensure that immigrants are helped to settle in and integrate. It;s that irresponsibility that, IMO caused the Brexit vote to go the way it did. And it look slike a lot of folk throughout Europe feel teh same way to.

        To equate that with the current US election though is, I feel misguided. We were asked a stupid question by someone who should've known better had he been doing his job properly (NB: I may not like Cameron, but I don;t think he's stupid. Misguided, maybe), whereas America is being asked to choose between two people who are,it would seem, merely contesting which is least worst choice to rule the roost. That's rather a different scenario.

    5. bombastic bob Silver badge
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      Re: Trump will win

      "this is not an endorsement; it's a prediction."

      I certainly HOPE you are RIGHT! Mega-thumbs-up for the honesty, at least.

      because, the aftermath of another Clint-stone occupying the white house would be *HIDEOUS*. 4 more years of the "Obaka" garbage, *AND* *THEN* *SOME*. Remember, Her Royal Heinous, Mrs. Clint-stone, was too frightening in 2008 to win the primary against OBAKA...

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