Did the Russians really hack the DNC or is this another Sony Pictures moment? You decide Security intelligence firm ThreatConnect thinks it has found a smoking gun that links the leaked US Democratic Party emails to Russian hackers. The biz has analyzed the communications methods used by Guccifer 2.0, which is thought to be a team of miscreants who obtained the somewhat embarrassing internal emails and gave them …
"What difference, at this point, does it make?"
The REAL issue is the content of the emails, which the DNC has not denied and avoids discussing.
The DNC took a crap on the primary process. Someone leaked emails that detail the shenanigans and the discussions at high levels concerning the tactics.
Finger pointing. How childish.
But finger-pointing is American politic's basic modus operandi. It's all a blame game... blame the previous office holder... blame the opposition.... blame the schools, the media... etc. etc. etc. The result if the blame sticks is that the finger pointer gets elected.
Really? You are white and get shot, no one cares? The whole point of Black Lives Matter is that shooting of white people got all the police attention and shooting of black people didn't.
The Orlando gay murders were all over the news because (a) they were Americans and (b) a lot were white. A similar shoot-up in a gay club in Mexico did not get the same worldwide attention because: brown, and Mexican.
Or is any attention paid to anyone not white the actual problem?
Firstly, the narrative that all US Police Officers are murdering enormous numbers (or even percentages) of US Citizens of African descent is false.
https://i.sli.mg/3qkPR4.jpg
http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/
Secondly, hackers my eye.
Julian Assange states Any DNC Staffer Could Have Been The Leaker. Combined w/this amazing coincidence.
A 27-year-old man who worked for the Democratic National Committee was shot and killed as he walked home early Sunday in the Bloomingdale neighborhood of Northwest Washington, D.C., police and his family said. Seth Conrad Rich (who worked as voter expansion data director) died after he was shot multiple times on the 2100 block of Flagler Place NW, three blocks east of Howard University Hospital, police said.
He was talking on the phone with his girlfriend when she heard noise on Rich's end of the line, Mary Rich said. Her son told his girlfriend not to worry about it.
"There had been a struggle. His hands were bruised, his knees are bruised, his face is bruised, and yet he had two shots to his back, and yet they never took anything," she said.
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Seth Rich was the key witness in a case filed against Edison Media Research and the alarming discrepancies between the results and exit polls, and their chummy relationship with John Husted.
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Even in botched robbery attempts, criminals at least an attempt to grab an item of value, watch, wallet, smartphone, etc. before fleeing. The case remains unsolved but it does appear to be more of an execution than a robbery.
I'm in America. I've been watching these shenanigans for way too long. Everything from local politics up to the top. Both parties heavily engage in this. If think otherwise, then you've not paid attention to any campaign ads. Negative campaigning isn't anything new.
There is a big difference between negative campaigning and breaking your own parties rules to stop a candidate.
But when you come down to it what we are really talking about is vote fraud, and that's something the Democrats have a lot of experience with.
"The result if the blame sticks is that the finger pointer gets elected."
Didn't quite work for David Cameron; I remember him blaming the EU and the previous New(tm) Labour incumbents, in roughly equal measure, to deflect blame for the Tory's inability to actually meet any of their 'promises' following their election in 2010 and look where that got him.
I think you missed the OP's initial point.
Putin if the allegations are true... didn't craft the emails which indicate that the DNC party's nomination and election was a sham. In short, if you're a democrat who voted for your party's candidate, you were disenfranchised but their actions.
This has nothing to do with Putin but the DNC and its own corruption along with the corruption from the Clintons.
Unless you are dealing with someone incredibly stupid, there is no way to tell what country an attack came from. Considering the low levels of security in most organisations, it's also problematic to assume nation states. Also individuals are most likely to be suffering from Clinton winning over Sanders. The parts of the normal public that know how to use a computer might have the best motivation.
If some agency had managed to crack the Elite VPN server and cloned it, they could have used that clone for the attack.
In short, it could have been anyone. However, if evidence is only collected that supports your theory (i.e. that Russia did it) then it can look like a stitch-up which leaves people thinking that anyone *other* than Russia did it, unless it's a double-bluff :)
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/07/russia-hillary-clinton-email-hack.html
"Evidence that could publicly attribute responsibility for the DNC hack certainly exists at #NSA, but DNI traditionally objects to sharing".
— Edward Snowden (@Snowden) July 25, 2016
"Even if the attackers try to obfuscate origin, #XKEYSCORE makes following exfiltrated data easy. I did this personally against Chinese ops".
— Edward Snowden (@Snowden) July 25, 2016
"Snowden is right and the MSM is clueless".
— William Binney (the NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information, who served as the senior technical director within the agency, who managed six thousand NSA employees, the 36-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency and the NSA’s best-ever analyst and code-breaker).
"Never mind the tin foil hat, it's time for a big bowl of popcorn, and hope that fur flies. And badly!"
- Unfortunately, I doubt it. Too much flying fur, and the wolf will end up as mauled as the rabbit.
Mainstream Political parties, no matter what spectrum they are on, don't want public confidence in 'the system' rocked too much, just their opponents seen on a little more shakier ground than them.
"Our research into Guccifer 2.0's infrastructure further solidifies our assessment that the persona is a Russia-controlled platform that can act as a censored hacktivist," the intelligence biz said. "Moscow determines what Guccifer 2.0 shares and thus can attempt to selectively impact media coverage, and potentially the election, in a way that ultimately benefits their national objectives."
So Guccifer is the anemic Russian Response to the "National Endowment for Democracy" and sundry "NGOs" whose stirrings are indicative that regime change and/or the AC-130 gunship of peace and understanding is going to visit your premises?
"The 9-step program: Hitlerization, Sanctions, Local Clients, Human Rights NGOs, Sabotaging Diplomacy, Criminalization, Scare Word Genocide, Media and Propaganda, and finally Bombing."
"At kindergarden they told us not to point fingers - it is not polite and while you point at others, three of your fingers point back at yourself."
Unless you're a Clintstone; then, everything "slicks" off of you, and doesn't stick.
Mrs. Clinton's native tongue is "the lie". The DNC is nearly as bad. Debbie "Blabbermouth" Schultz has quit her position over this already, but Mrs. Clinton is still in there, ready to become the next "Liar in Chief". You can expect LOTS of finger-pointing as the USA circles the drain, if SHE gets elected. "It was a MOVIE on YOUTUBE that caused it!"
I defy anyone to read - or even skim - through this list and not feel shocked and frightened. At the very least, there is overwhelming circumstantial evidence that it is VERY unhealthy to be associated with the Clintons.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php
Clinton as a liar: this label got stuck on Mrs Clinton some decades ago but a reporter recently looked into this and found she had a better than average record -- for a politician -- on being truthful. People simply repeat the same calumny over and over again. I finally just tune out people who thump that 'Clinton is a liar' as if it were an overwhelmingly proven truth.
Story, with links to other similar in USA:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson
"You mean a country ruled by one man and a an organization based on fear and surveillance (the ex-KGB) is outing a country ruled by a few rich men and an organization based on fear and misinformation (the media). Doesn't sound so ironic to me."
The irony is in how the western liberal mainstream media portrays the two countries. Maybe that's a little bit easier for you to digest.
So, this is based on a new analysis by ThreatConnect.
Apparently earlier on the Democratic National Committee hired CrowdStrike to take a look, with conclusions here.
Then Fidelis was hired by CrowdStrike ... "to review the findings. Fidelis worked exclusively and only with data provided by Crowdstrike (as did several other companies.) They concluded the same two hackers, COZY BEAR and FANCY BEAR APT, committed the intrusion, but made no comments on whether those two were linked to the Russian government." (as Peter van Buren writes)
At The DNC Breach and the Hijacking of Common Sense we read that "other cybersecurity companies including FireEye, Kaspersky Lab, ESET, TrendMicro, Microsoft, iSight Partners, and AlienLab have made similar claims of attribution to the Russian government."
Everybody is working on this!
"Could they be that stupid or could somebody be trying to leave a false scent".
You think? But look at that address: sec.service@mail.ru! Obviously "sec.service" means "Security Service" - even a Republican senator could understand that.
It's not as if anyone in the worlds of intelligence or politics ever tries to leave a false trail. "False Flag" - ever heard of it? And the false pointers left do not have to be in the least subtle; the mass media aren't critical.
'At The DNC Breach and the Hijacking of Common Sense we read that "other cybersecurity companies including FireEye, Kaspersky Lab, ESET, TrendMicro, Microsoft, iSight Partners, and AlienLab have made similar claims of attribution to the Russian government."'
For those who didn't follow that link - which I recommend, as it has some good and interesting material - here is a relevant passage.
'I chose to look at Fancy Bear (APT28 in FireEye’s ecosystem). The most comprehensive report on that threat actor was written by FireEye and released last October, 2014 so I started with that. To my surprise, the report’s authors declared that they deliberately excluded evidence that didn’t support their judgment that the Russian government was responsible for APT28’s activities:
'“APT28 has targeted a variety of organizations that fall outside of the three themes we highlighted above. However, we are not profiling all of APT28’s targets with the same detail because they are not particularly indicative of a specific sponsor’s interests.” (emphasis added)
'That is the very definition of confirmation bias'.
And too be honest, I'm sure that my local "western" medias reporting is a skewed as russias media, so I do not believe that the picture I see of Putin in the news is relevant at all. So yes, he may be a criminal, but I'm not at all sure that he is that much of a criminal as he is portrayed to be in the west.
After all, just look at our own politicians. Without the sweet, sweet, alliance between media and politicians in the west, they would surely be in jail most of the times.
"Putin isn't immune: he's squirrelled billions away himself".
Er, citation? Evidence of some kind? (And by the way, "Everyone knows it's true" does not count as evidence).
I do know for sure that many (perhaps almost all) Western political leaders turn out to become exceedingly rich - usually soon after retiring from politics. Mrs Clinton, for example, with her "speaking engagements". https://consortiumnews.com/2016/01/05/the-clintons-paid-speech-bonanza/#comment-208950
"Putin isn't immune: he's squirrelled billions away himself". Er, citation? Evidence of some kind?
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/panama-papers-money-hidden-offshore An unprecedented leak of documents shows how this money has made members of Putin's close circle fabulously wealthy. Though the president's name does not appear in any of the records, the data reveals a pattern - his friends have earned millions from deals that seemingly could not have been secured without his patronage.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-capitalism-propertymanager-idUSKCN0WX1MU Last year, Reuters reported that Putin's daughter Tikhonova, who holds a senior position at Moscow State University, is personally advised by some of Putin's oldest friends. She is also married to Kirill Shamalov, son of billionaire Nikolai Shamalov, an associate of Putin's.
Baevsky has previously attracted little attention. His connection to Putin was uncovered by investigative journalist Roman Anin who was conducting research for the Organised Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP), an East European media network. Public records show that companies co-owned by Baevsky have benefited from state construction contracts worth at least 6 billion rubles ($89 million) in the past two years.
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/russia-capitalism-shamalov/ The man who married Putin's daughter and then made a fortune. The story of Kirill Shamalov, the celebration of his wedding to the Russian president's younger daughter, and the loan from a politically well-connected bank that helped make him a billionaire. Kirill Shamalov, son of an old friend of Vladimir Putin, was able to borrow about $1.3 billion via a new company wholly-owned by him.
Etc, Etc.
Some did it, for example, at Mussolini and Hitler times. Most of them, those who didn't die earlier, regretted it... remember Putin changed the Russian law that dictated a two terms limit there too. These are the kind of people you vote once, and then have to bear forever... unless they die - like Stalin - or are killed. Be careful...
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