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Microsoft and LinkedIn: What the CEOs are planning

What they actually said:

"Ha ha ha ha ha! This is going to be great."

(hears noise, turns quickly)

"Whoops, Hi Nadella. Great doing business with you. Thanks for the check man, let's get together again sometime soon."

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50%

Is it really worth 50% more than the share.....£175 per user?

and it is chucking £166M in losses?

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"A big part of this deal is accelerating LinkedIn's growth"

just like we did with Nokia.....

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Re: "A big part of this deal is accelerating LinkedIn's growth"

They should very afraid of Microsoft culture. If it's not completely destroyed then it just turns to shit (e.g. Skype).

Well the execs aren't afraid. They're laughing all the way to the bank.

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Re: "A big part of this deal is accelerating LinkedIn's growth"

May be one should set a pool to see how long it takes Slurp to murder LinkedIn.

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Sing along now

TAM, TAM, TAM, TAM - TAAAAM, wonderful TAM!

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Filters

So how long before MS start 'managing' posts to filter out positive news and industry updates on their competitors. 'All for your benefit'

LinkedIn will die a slow death.

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Do I really want Microsoft to have full access to my professional history?

Er, no.

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Re: Do I really want Microsoft to have full access to my professional history?

Why LinkedIn Monetizers yes, and Microsoft Monetizers not?

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Re: Do I really want Microsoft to have full access to my professional history?

If you are signed up then everyone else does, so why not them?

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Re: Do I really want Microsoft to have full access to my professional history?

You hit the nail on the head m8, Its the user data it wants, all that user slurping data to add to its Win 10 data !!!

Sheeeesh !

I you have a LinkedIn account then I suggest destroying it and damn quickly before MacroSlurp gets its beady claws into it !

I can see a lot of Win 7 and Linux users trashing their accounts ASAP - ROFL - Run for the hills !

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Re: Do I really want Microsoft to have full access to my professional history?

I you have a LinkedIn account then I suggest destroying it and damn quickly before MacroSlurp gets its beady claws into it !

As far as I can tell from continued accuracy after I all but cleared out my profile, LinkedIn doesn't delete anything, it just makes it unavailable. As far as I can tell it's still hanging on to all the data I naïvely gave them (years ago before privacy became a real issue).

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Re: Do I really want Microsoft to have full access to my professional history?

Now, you shouldn't trust multi-million cooperation because first and foremost things evolve around their revenue and nothing else. But... I also think it's fair to say that out of all the companies out there Microsoft has proven themselves to be more caring about the individual users privacy than others. Well, at least that's the impression I've been getting.

Just read their several user agreements. Heck, lets take a very easy example: my Windows phone. Every time I used a certain feature for the first time (keyboard, speech recognition, e-mail, etc.) I got asked if I would allow Microsoft access to some data for "improvements". You know, the commonly used "phone home" feedback. I even skipped a few because I was not in the mood for those questions because I wanted to get some work done.

Each and every time the option turned out to be opt-in. It was disabled by default and the question was basically if I'd allow them to activate it. Most phones have all this stuff turned on by default, making it opt-out.

Microsoft has done some severely stupid and intrusive things, I'm not denying any of that, but in this current situation (also looking at the several end user agreements) I'd sooner trust Microsoft with more personal data than, say, Google (even though, in all honesty, Google also never makes a secret out of it that they want to make money from using your data).

Of course anything can change.

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Re: Do I really want Microsoft to have full access to my professional history?

I'd sooner trust Microsoft with more personal data than, say, Google (even though, in all honesty, Google also never makes a secret out of it that they want to make money from using your data).

I won't, and not because they have used opt-in a lot. I won't because they haven't got the first clue of security. Based on more than 2 decades worth of experience using Microsoft products, I have the impression that their idea of security is pretending that risks don't exist. I wouldn't want them, their products or their services anywhere near anything confidential or protectively marked.

From a security perspective, Microsoft has never been anything but a malignant infestation so if you thought LinkedIn couldn't get any worse, just watch.

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Re: Do I really want Microsoft to have full access to my professional history?

"As far as I can tell from continued accuracy after I all but cleared out my profile, LinkedIn doesn't delete anything, it just makes it unavailable. As far as I can tell it's still hanging on to all the data I naïvely gave them (years ago before privacy became a real issue)."

Facebook is the same unless you really go through the hoops to get it deleted. They still count your account as being active so they can 'monetize' your non activity.

Sooooo, my Facebook account that I use because others need me to have one, is a non related cove and not one single fact therin is correct account wise.

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Re: Do I really want Microsoft to have full access to my professional history?

"Why LinkedIn Monetizers yes, and Microsoft Monetizers not?"

LinkedIn is mostly neutral with no direct ties to anyone. Microsoft has a vested interest in Microsoft (as it should). So now, a site used mostly for professional networking* is all of a sudden owned by a very biased party.

* so there HAVE been an awful lot of Facebook style posts there lately, which is forcing me to re-eval my relationship with them, prior to the MS buyout.

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Re: Do I really want Microsoft to have full access to my professional history?

@MrTuk

"I you have a LinkedIn account then I suggest destroying it and damn quickly before MacroSlurp gets its beady claws into it !"

How might one do that?

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Re: I'd sooner trust Microsoft with more personal data than, say, Google

Isn't that rather like "I'd rather have paratyphoid than typhoid"?

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Re: Do I really want Microsoft to have full access to my professional history?

@energystar, from my perspective I am on LinkedIn for my benefit - it's all about career progression and professional networking. Yes, LinkedIn monetize my details (which are not open to everyone, just those organizations, such as recruiters, willing to pay for the access - my public profile is relatively limited in its scope) but in the end I benefit too. I got my current job through being contacted on LinkedIn.

Now tell me how I benefit from Microsoft's data slurping...

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"We are in pursuit of a common mission centered on empowering people and organizations. " -Satya Nadella.

'Microsoft is saving the company...'

Well... We'll see. If Microsoft ACTUALLY empowering LinkedIn minions' environment, providing them with whatever necessary to effectively advance in the now Wider panorama. [Should I express likeness about Satya attitude?].

MS should have a strong watch on LinkedIn' work ambiance, if really wishing to nourish that Team.

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If Microsoft actually nourish that Team...

[How much does that amounts to, in view of the huge $26.2bn acquisition price?] It could send a tremendous message to the IT community: That they actually care about their own people.

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So will MS employees now use LinkedIn to find new jobs? Or will management get wind of it about the time said employee slaps the <ENTER> key? New opportunities indeed.

In spite of LinkedIn's financial problems, this just doesn't seem like it's going to end well if history is of any value.

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So will MS employees now use LinkedIn to find new jobs?

"Don't despair, Dearest Employee, available slots at Infrastructure Maintenance." </Mocking>

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Finding new work

Presumably the LinkedIn team knows how to use their own product. Which is good, because they need to.

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Mining for Patents?

Do Linked In have any?

Edit: Yep - http://stks.freshpatents.com/Linkedin-Corporation-nm1.php

Paris? Shoes probably got many...

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New advertising campaign

"Is your career slowing down for no apparent reason? Maybe it needs a reboot to get it running smoothly again."

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Does Satya Nadella know about...

Embracing? [Endorse]

Extending? [endorse]

Extinguishing? [endorse]

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Re: Does Satya Nadella know about...

I rather prefer:

Embrace, Extend, <Dalek voice>EXTERMINATE</Dalek voice>

Just because I am a fan of the Doctor

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"total addressable markets (TAM)"

s/T/SP/g

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Bye Bye

I've been wondering for some time why I subscribed to linkedin. I guess it's time to linkout.

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Today it Feels Good to be Unemployable and Poor.

Not only do I not have to post a bullshit CV to LinkedIn I also get to run Linux.

Fuckin' Karma.

My sympathies to all of you left in the 'rat race'... I'll just get back to my Roasted Sausage, Bacon and Cheese Mashed Potato Bake. If Lester is interested I'll publish the recipe on FacePlant, assuming he cannot work it out for himself and I have a FacePlant account.

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Windows 10 Update

Software, Linked In, Microsoft Edition.

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Glad I did not give in and set up an account?

But where do we setup the alternate M$ free version ...

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Re: Glad I did not give in and set up an account?

Anywhere you can afford creating and hosting this type of database driven critter. [Just as obviously, while avoid being patent-whipped.]

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History Repeats Itself

Let me guess? Something about synergies and getting ahead of the curve and being on the right side of history.

The same thing Time/Warner and AOL's CEO's said........

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Wow, just WOW!

"We are in pursuit of a common mission centered on empowering people and organizations. Along with the new growth in our Office 365 commercial and Dynamics businesses, this deal is key to our bold ambition to reinvent productivity and business processes,"

Slurp finally got the windows 10 bullshit generator working!

Finally time to upgrade, folks?

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Re: Wow, just WOW!

"Slurp finally got the windows 10 bullshit generator working!"

Finally? The bullshit generator is the first deliverable of any corporate project.

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People still use LinkedIn?

Man is that yesterdays tech. Sorta like FriendsReUnited... Cool for a while then? Passe and then totally uncool.

I'm actually glad that MS has wasted their money again.

Anon because (shame on me) I actually have a LinkedIn account. Honest Guv, it was only created so that I could view prospective employee's details. It thinks I am still at my job before the last one so it is bang uptodate.

I'll delete it once the deal has closed. Thank god I'm retiring soon.

No Windows 10 and no LinkedIn. What's not to like eh? {don't answer that...}

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All this coverage of this acquisition on the The Register, yet I haven't seen anyone make the point that potentially LinkdIn's biggest competitor is the long established recruitment agency industry. They were making money from their own silos of user/client-provided data long before Facebook et al were on the scene, agencies that would take a percentage of someone's earnings. What value would they add? Why, no more than consult their databases and liaises with employers and employees.

LinkdIn has the potential to disrupt that - if anything else, it could automate the process of checking references, from the point of view of recruiters.

This isn't my point of view, but one that given to me in a pub by the head of recruitment for a large company a few years back.

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"This isn't my point of view, but one that given to me in a pub by the head of recruitment for a large company a few years back."

Ahhh, told to you in a pub and I just read it on the Inertnet <sic> so therefore it must be factual and true. Nice one!!!

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LinkdIn's biggest competitor is the long established recruitment agency industry.

I thought recruiters were LinkedIn's paying customers, since they paid for the privilege of being able to dig through the database.

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Yawn. Usual MS buzzwords

"empowering". .... "get [stuff] done"

The slavishness (no pun intended) with which MS lersistently re-cycles its mantras is worthy of Stalin.

Does anyone know how they enforce the prescribed MS dictionary? Is there an office at Redmond which has the power to veto any public pronouncement which does not use the mandated spin terms?

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"Microsoft SEO Satya Nadella" (sic)

A Freudian slip for our times?

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just checked LiN:

found 2 posts.

1) Open Sourcing Photon ML LinkedIn's Scalable Machine Learning Library for Spark. Machine learning is a key component of LinkedIn's relevance-driven products. We use machine learning to train the ranking algorithms for our feed, advertising, recommender systems (such as People You May Know), email optimization, search engines, and more.

2) "registreer je voor het webinar met kenner Yorick Dokter" sponsored by Microsoft Nederland (never saw this s** before).

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Re: just checked LiN:

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"2) "registreer je voor het webinar met kenner Yorick Dokter" sponsored by Microsoft Nederland (never saw this s** before)."

Yep, it is all double Dutch to me as well old chap.

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Linkedin is so last week. You can find a killer job without it if you know where to look http://helpmebro.com/posts/W6MM8FpBXO

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Fully independent entity within Microsoft

So there'll be no irresistible temptation to fiddle with any of this tech? - https://engineering.linkedin.com/architecture/brief-history-scaling-linkedin - for about a month at least I'm guessing.

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Re: Fully independent entity within Microsoft

From the architecture piece it would seem that at the tech level the synergy is that MS get access to LinkedIn's tech, which MS will take and embed into Office 365 and Dynamics, which in turn will be used to host LinkedIn on Azure.

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