Pastafarian literature
Can anyone recommend anything?
A New Zealand couple had the honour of celebrating the world's first Pastafarian wedding on Saturday, when Ministeroni Karen Martyn joined Marianna Fenn and Toby Ricketts in noodly wedlock. The historic ceremony took place aboard a vessel in Akaroa harbor, where Fenn and Ricketts - dressed as pirates - exchanged pasta rings, …
I believe The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster would be the canonical text.
Pea and parmesan noodles in a thin, clarified saffron soup.
In other words, their union was consomméated soon after the ceremony.
To protest against religions and poke fun at believers they jump on a trendy new, look at me I'm different, non-religion religion. aka cult. Next thing you know they are taking it seriously and demanding rights like other religions, well that's already started. And the most stupid thing is it's not even a new idea, scientology got there before them and look where they are now. Another few years and you won't be able to tell them apart.
The thing is, this case means it is a step closer to being a real religion. That would really please its creator, I guess, but would cause a bit of a dilemma for those who use it to bait followers of the classical religions : will they soon have to renounce pastafarianism and start ridiculing those followers who remain?
I have already encountered people unironically describing themselves as "devout" pastafarians. People are starting to treat it as a legitimate set of beliefs and a religion, which I find amusing as all hell because they're exactly the sort of uncritical crowd-followers that the whole thing was originally created to mock.
Just because other individuals rationally but independently choose to do the same thing as you does not mean any of you are sheeple following a crowd. Now, believing what you are told to believe because it is what your parents believed and what you were raised to believe without questioning or examining the rationality or logic of that belief system, on the other hand, absolutely does make you a mindless drone.
Believe whatever you want to believe, but for the love of Jibbers Himself, arrive at that belief on your own using logic and reason instead of succumbing to the inertia of your upbringing.
"Why do certain beliefs get accepted? Why is the FSM any more or less disprovable from anything else?"
The church's (increasingly historical) significance in society is not because it's religious claims are inherently believable - rather, it is because societies have tended to function reasonably well and flourish under Christianity.
@Matthew Taylor, "societies have tended to function reasonably well and flourish under Christianity"
When are where was that? I'm guessing you're not referring to the middle ages, when the Church had real power, and the Islamic nations were far ahead in astronomy, mathematics and other sciences. I suppose there was the colonial period, when mostly Christian European nations went out and stole whole countries, but there you'd have to say it only worked "reasonably well" for the European ruling classes. Then there was the success of the Christian Europeans dragging the world into two World Wars. OK, OK, how about post-war to now... lots of success and growth, best exemplified by China's decades of >7% GDP growth, oops, China's not Christian. I give up!
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While you are right, please do not let the sins of the past blind you to the delicious irony that in our modern world the places that have made the biggest gains in the rights of the traditionally disenfranchised (women, children, prisoners, gays, etc) all have a pronounced Christian heritage.
Many Christians seem to forget that Jesus partied with hookers.
No, those are the places who refused religion as a base for basic rights and a source for legislation. The western world *fought hard* against the idea that laws and the "very special rights" of some people ("nobles", "priesthood") came from a supernatural entity and thereby couldn't be changed.
It was a very useful way to enslave people "hey, my power is from God (and this interested priest will confirm it) so you can't do anything but obey - otherwise I'm in my right to kill you because you have no rights". But more and more people started to challenge it - because religion ceased to be an absolute value.
That's the missing steps other part of the world never took, and we see the consequences.
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The church's (increasingly historical) significance in society is not because it's religious claims are inherently believable - rather, it is because societies have tended to function reasonably well and flourish under Christianity.
Do you have even a vaguely tenable justification for your rather dubious claim, or do you expect me to take it on his noodly appendages.
"rather, it is because societies have tended to function reasonably well and flourish under Christianity"
Are you high? Please share.
Addendum: I loathe the societies Christianity built and would dearly - dearly - love the opportunity to build and live in one built by pastafarians. I believe with every fibre of my being it would be superior in damned near every way.
I bet we won't even burn anyone alive to create that society. Holy Meatballs, Batman!
"they jump on a trendy new, look at me I'm different, non-religion religion. aka cult"
They don't show any signs of going down the cult route just yet - for instance having someone who claims to represent their god on Earth. They can leave that to the catholic church...
And how would you define a "non-religion"? - what they claim to believe in is a lot more reasonable, possible and believable than most other religions that I can think of!
Scientology is -and always was- about the money. Pastafarianism was created to protest mandatory teaching of 'Intelligent Design'.
Poking fun at believers is entirely valid; if you take a moment to consider what those believers would advocate doing to those not of their particular brand of faith if the positions were reversed. Passive-aggressive piss-taking while simultaneously having fun is not the worst way to be by any means. If you research a little, you will also notice that "one true faith" and "burn the heretic" stances are shot down pretty hard; both in canon and practice. It also sets out to be inclusive (ie, you can be an active participant in another religion with no problems).
Now the demanding rights bit is partly publicity; partly being silly for the sheer joy of it; but also by parodying the more established religions it may serve to ameliorate some of the damage they do.
Also worth noting is that Pastafarians consider Friday a Holy Day; which many of us in IT already know and practice.
The fact that these people can clown around like pirates with colanders on their head, during what is apparently a ceremony signifying their lifelong commitment to each other, demonstrates that religion is no longer calling the shots in New Zealand. It's a spent force, and this dancing on its grave is unseemly in my view.