back to article Dropping 1,000 cats from 32km: How practical is that?

Our report yesterday into NASA's high-altitude, heavy-lift super pressure balloon (SPB) mission - lofted by a stadium-sized sandwich bag and weighing in at 1,000 cats - prompted the traditional provocative reader input. First up, since the SPB's orb is crafted from 22 acres of polyethylene film, swelling to a whopping 516,499 …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Determining hunger should be done using the calorific value of traditional stadium food. For football, that's a pie. We'll go with meat and potato as that's a classic.

    A meat and potato pie contains approx 430kcal *. A ham sandwich contains 230kcal*, so each stadium goer would need a minimum of 1.8 sandwiches to sustain them.

    * according to the first result on google for "calorific content in X"

    1. Hans Neeson-Bumpsadese Silver badge

      contents may vary

      A meat and potato pie contains approx 430kcal *

      Most meat pies contain a lot of other things, many of which it's best not to contemplate

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: contents may vary

        Especially if they're sold by Dibbler.

      2. x 7

        Re: contents may vary

        "Most meat pies contain a lot of other things"

        well.....the chicken pies are supposed to contain cat, though round here I think its mainly seagull

        1. herman

          Re: contents may vary

          Cat, rabbit, OK, but seagull? Eeewww... Please tell us where you live, so we can avoid it.

    2. Kane

      "A meat and potato pie contains approx 430kcal"

      Do you mean a named meat?*

      *And by named, I don't mean "Fido".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        @Kane

        They were talking about 1,000 cats. What kind of meat do you think they had an excess of?

        1. Kane
          Boffin

          Re: @Kane

          "They were talking about 1,000 cats. What kind of meat do you think they had an excess of?"

          Well, if dropping 1,000 cats from 32km, I reckon they would have an excess of about...1,000? Including splashy bits?

          However, I'm assuming you're commenting on the "Fido" reference. Here you go.

  2. getHandle

    Cats are self-guided when it comes to lasers

    So you get laser guidance for free. You just need to make sure you wiggle the laser dot a bit to keep their attention.

    1. The First Dave

      Re: Cats are self-guided when it comes to lasers

      Except that cluster munitions have now been banned, so you would have to think of a different designation.

      1. TeeCee Gold badge

        Re: Cats are self-guided when it comes to lasers

        Somebody's got their collective nouns confused, surely these would be clowder munitions anyway?

        If there's a treaty banning those I'd be amazed and then also have to admire the foresight of its authors.

  3. Efros

    Hunger determination

    Several degrees of hunger have been observed in Scotland

    1) Ah'm guttin - I have a pain in the midriff is it dinner time?

    2) Ah could eat a scabby dug - I really am quite peckish is it time to eat?

    3) Ah'm that hungry I'd eat a shit pie - I'm that hungry I'd even consider some fruit.

    4) That pie wiz boggin' - I still ate it though!

    None of these are quantitative and setting them in any particular order is dependent upon a variety of variables not least of which being the availability of deep fried pizza, which is likely to provoke the first three prior to consumption and the 4th post consumption.

    1. John 110
      Windows

      Re: Hunger determination

      @Efros

      Translation note:

      To transition this to East Coastish

      1) replace all instances of "Ah" with "Eh"

      2) replace all instances of "pie" with "peh"

      3) replace "deep fried pizza" with "Farfir Bridie"

      1. Efros

        Re: Hunger determination

        That's 'Purth' talk that is.

  4. Mike 140

    "And yes, the cats would all land on their feet, even from 33.5km."

    But what if each cat has a slice of toast, buttered on one side only, strapped to its back with the butter upwards?

    1. tiggity Silver badge

      toasty

      The cat shreds the strapping thus freeing the toast to land on its buttered side

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      You've just invented perpetual motion - hovering, rotating cats just waiting for their angular momentum to be harvested.

      At least until the toast has gone cold and the butter has been absorbed into it and can't stain the carpet any more.

    3. Bloodbeastterror

      "each cat has a slice of toast"

      Already sorted...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYcGPF00l0

      1. Anonymous Custard
        Joke

        I guess you'd also maybe need to throw a few dogs in (out?) as well, as "It's raining cats and more cats" doesn't quite have the same ring to it...

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    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      No, the cats would not land on their feet

      They'd land randomly, because they'd suffocate at 33.5 km and be either unconscious or dead when they reached the ground. The temperature at that altitude would also be a problem for them.

      Unless you gave them feline sized spacesuits with oxygen tanks; then they'd be OK, but that might throw off their ability to land spread eagled which is what allows cats that fall from great heights to survive with only a few broken bones at most.

  5. Aristotles slow and dimwitted horse
    Thumb Up

    And this...

    ... is why I love El Reg. I can't find this sort of informative copy anywhere else on the interwebs.

    1. Uncle Slacky Silver badge
      Stop

      Re: And this...

      It sounds like something XKCD would address in a "What If?" piece.

      1. Mpeler
        Paris Hilton

        Re: And this... 1000 cats?

        Ahh, Bond Fans...

        Pussy Galore...

        I don't expect you to talk, Mr. Bond. I expect you to, erm, fly...

        (OK, OK, OK, not EVEN close to Honor Blackman...)

  6. m0rt

    I read this article to my cat.

    She looked at me then imitated a clock at 3 o'clock by cleaning herself.

    So I assume she rated this article a 3.

  7. chivo243 Silver badge

    Anyone that can

    herd 1000 cats in any direction, can do anything they put their mind to... I once had 4 cats, and the only way to get their attention was to open a tin of food. Something about that crack-snap of the lid....

    1. m0rt

      Re: Anyone that can

      Which is unfair if you think about it.

      Cats have a myriad ways of getting our attention.

      Dead presents.

      Live presents that you wish were dead.

      Using you as a landing pad from the window sill at 4.30 am

      Destroying various parts of the furnishings.

      Being cute.

      Being aggresive.

      Making any kind of noise.

      Purring.

      Interrupting anything you are doing by walking through/on it and then just sitting there. (usually computer, book, paper, your food)

      Being sick.

      Requiring vetinary assistance.

      What do we get? Opening a tin and a laser pointer.

      1. Matt 21

        Re: Anyone that can

        All too true.

        I was wondering, as an aside, whether growing a field of catnip to the side of a valuable target would be the equivalent of missile toppling.....

  8. Putters

    Opportunity ...

    ... to find out how high a frozen dead cat bounce is from that height given the starting temperature ?

    1. PNGuinn
      Boffin

      Frozen cats

      This raises another important safety issue.

      What happens if one of these over chilled moggies is ingested by a hungry jet engine?

      Would it purr, burp or fart?

      Would it be able to sick up the hairball?

      Would the average feline fit in the standard chicken hurler?

      What is the speed of a cat in a vacuum?

      So many imponderables ....

      Enquiring minds need to know.

      1. Mpeler

        Re: Frozen cats

        If they did this four times, would there be 4000 cats in Blackburn, Lancashire?

  9. Rat Sandwich

    Laser Guided

    Surely the question with laser guidance is would the cats eat the sharks or would the sharks eat the cats?

    1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

      Re: Laser Guided

      > would the cats eat the sharks or would the sharks eat the cats?

      Neither. The cats would exert a sufficient Cute Force (several megaKittens-worth) such that the sharks would obey their every whim.

      1. Anonymous Custard
        Big Brother

        Re: Laser Guided

        Of course, now it becomes clear. All these years we've had the relationship between the evil genius in his volcano lair and the white Persian he's stroking entirely backwards...

        Should have known who really ruled that crater.

        1. Mark 85

          Re: Laser Guided

          Of course, now it becomes clear. All these years we've had the relationship between the evil genius in his volcano lair and the white Persian he's stroking entirely backwards...

          Since cats only have staff, I always thought that was obvious to even the most casual of observers. The guy stroking the cat is merely the leader of the rest of the cat staff.

  10. Roger Kynaston
    Pint

    Definitely Friday and getting on for beer oclock

    Class article. Also playmobile or it didn't happen.

    OT can we have a real ale beer icon as well?

  11. x 7

    you don't need optical lasers to guide cats: they have their own internal heat-seeking targeting system. Cats always run to the warmest object, so all you need is a cheap infra-red to warm things up

  12. emmanuel goldstein

    The idiom demands...

    The next step is to coral a gigantic number of pigeons to drop the cats among.

    1. Anonymous Custard

      Re: The idiom demands...

      And an equal number of dogs for the cats to rain down with...

      1. emmanuel goldstein

        Re: The idiom demands...

        I like it. A sort of binary DOG/CAT weapon. Keep the two components separate and it's relatively safe to transport and store. Once combined though.....

    2. chivo243 Silver badge

      Re: The idiom demands...

      Just do it above Crufts or some other dog show...

  13. roytrubshaw
    Coat

    Acceleration pedantry

    "Imagine if you will a thick blanket of 1,000 wailing felines, claws deployed, descending at an immense rate of knots as you desperately attempt to defend yourself with a garden hose."

    <pedant>

    knots - as any fule no - is already a rate i.e. nautical miles per hour, so a "rate of knots" is an acceleration - which is accurate, well for the initial part of the drop until terminal velocity is reached anyway - in any case it's g or 68,579 kn/h (which - I'm surprised to find - does appear to qualify as "immense" :) )

    </pedant>

    Kudos for "kilocat" and also for bringing "kilokitten" to a wider public!

    1. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

      Re: Acceleration pedantry

      Don't forget that millikitten is a measure of cuteness, whereas a kilocat is just 1000 cats

      1. Pedigree-Pete

        Re: Acceleration pedantry

        This is El Reg. Whilst I'm aware a kilometre is 1000 metres a kilobyte is 1024 so how many cats in a klilocat?

        1. bob, mon!

          Re: Acceleration pedantry

          Properly speaking, 1024 bytes is a kibibyte. 1024 cats is a kibblecat.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Acceleration pedantry

          No one has been able to keep them still long enough to count.

    2. x 7

      Re: Acceleration pedantry

      " a "rate of knots" is an acceleration"

      no its knot. Its like saying "high rate of speed", except by saying "knots" to some extent you are defining what you are speeding in: aircraft or ship

      With a name like Trubshaw I would have expected better: I take it Brian Trubshaw was no relative to you

    3. Mark 85
      Headmaster

      Re: Acceleration pedantry

      Knots is a distance originally used by navies. It did involve a knotted rope. So, technically "rate of knots" is correct. There is however the speed "knots" which is "Knots per Hour" or in the "duldrums".. Knots-per-Fortnight".

      Thank <$Deity> that no-one used the term "parsecs"....

      1. x 7

        Re: Acceleration pedantry

        " There is however the speed "knots" which is "Knots per Hour" or in the "duldrums".. Knots-per-Fortnight""

        wrong!!!!!

        A knot is one nautical mile per hour as is in itself a unit of speed.

        A knot is NOT a unit of distance

        "Knots per hour" is an invalid term as "knot" already implies distance per unit of time

        1. lawndart

          Re: Acceleration pedantry - x 7

          The usage of "knot" does imply distance per unit of time, however it is shorthand for "knots per hour". It does not invalidate "knots per hour" as a term. In the days when streaming the log and counting the knots and fathoms run off before the 28 second timer ran out the two terms could be, and were, used interchangeably.

          "[When the wind has a relative velocity of some 40 knots per hour]"

          Lieutenant W Gordon RN, The Economy of the Marine Steam Engine, 1845.

          In this modern age of impeller driven speed measurement and GPS the usage has made the knot the standard term, however the ultra-pedant should mention that the modern usage should be "nautical miles per hour". The knot is a slightly shorter distance than a nautical mile (although the nautical mile distance is dependent on which country you are from anyway).

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