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George Bush naked selfie hacker Guccifer gets his day in US court

Anonymous Coward

The US is a corrupt plutocracy, with the diplomatic privileges of a liberal democracy.

Nobody should be being extradited to the US until they improve their human rights abuse records.

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WTF?

"No matter where they are in the world, those who commit crimes against U.S. citizens will be held accountable for their actions, pursued by our investigators and prosecutors and brought to justice."

Meanwhile US "citizens" can do whatever the fuck they like as long as its not in the USofA cus it's not our jurisdiction.

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Happy

"No matter where they are in the world, those who commit crimes against U.S. citizens will be held accountable for their actions, pursued by our investigators and prosecutors and brought to justice."

That's good to hear. So how long until those responsible for the rampant fraud involved in the 2007-8 mortgage collapse are brought to justice?

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"The indictment claims that between December 2012 and January 2014, Lazăr used publicly available information and guesswork to get into email accounts via password reset questions."

" "Marcel Lazăr is the latest of a dozen high-level cybercriminals who have recently been extradited to face justice in the United States," said Assistant Attorney General Leslie Caldwell."

Aha.

Makes me wonder - what cunning tricks did the other 11 high-level cybercriminals pull of?

And what do they call someone who, you know, actually attacks and compromises systems using malware or vulnerabilities (or whatever)? Hyper-level cybercriminal?

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That's not why he's high level

He violated the privacy of high level people like Bush and Clinton. Privacy isn't for little people like you me, it is for the rich, powerful and connected elite.

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Re: That's not why he's high level

>He violated the privacy of high level people like Bush and Clinton.

Worse than that, he demonstrated that Clinton was breaking the law.

We can't have people going around pointing out that rich, educated, important friends people break the law.

People who go around snooping on other peoples' stuff is the whole reason the government needs all these powers to, er, go around snooping on peoples' stuff.

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Re: That's not why he's high level

The exposure of Clinton's private email server was accidental, he didn't see that others did once he released emails that showed her private email address and people started digging.

Use of a private email server may be questionable, but it wasn't illegal. Powell and Rice did the same in their tenure as SOS, but since they aren't running for president no one cares to find out (certainly not the republican controlled congress) if they may have sent classified documents over an unsecured system like Clinton may have done, which would be illegal.

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"And what do they call someone who, you know, actually attacks and compromises systems using malware or vulnerabilities (or whatever)? Hyper-level cybercriminal?"

Super-Duper Doubleplus Ungood Nasty Person Meanie.

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Re: That's not why he's high level

Aye, there's not a classified-material clearance holder of the last half century that would not already have been prosecuted and served time for what Clinton did. That it has devolved into an issue of whether or not she knew the rules, or whether or not she knew the contents were "TS", only proves your point.

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Hold on, just need to fix something here....

"No matter where they are in the world, those who commit crimes against [STINKING RICH AND POWERFUL] U.S. citizens will be held accountable for their actions, pursued by our investigators and prosecutors and brought to justice."

There we go.

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Re: Hold on, just need to fix something here....

That's true. I note that not one of the ransomware types who generally hit the "little people" have been arrested or charged. Just the few who have got the big political or celeb types.

Equal justice for all... meh....

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Don't offend the rich ones

or you will pay a heavy price for that.

On the contrary, if you are rich and screw everyone by evading taxes through Panama you should be OK.

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"Mr. Lazăr violated the privacy of his victims and thought he could hide behind the anonymity of the Internet," said US Attorney Dana Boente of the Eastern District of Virginia. unquote

Umm, now didn't he get the memo? The one that stated there is no such thing as privacy on the Internet, and so on and so forth? The one that the NSA, the FBI, and the rest are pushing like crazy?

Didn't think so.

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Big Brother

Why a custodial sentence?

I don't know the case but it sounds like he didn't make any money from doing this and that no-one was harmed. I would have thought that a fine and maybe some community service teaching the elderly to use computers would be more appropriate.

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Re: Why a custodial sentence?

How do you say "Pour encourager les autres" in Romanian?

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Old-fashioned investigative work

What? So the good old US of A didn't need to snoop on everyone's data to find the guy?

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Big Brother

"No matter where they are in the world"

Fuck Yeah.

As the meme goes.

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"George Bush naked selfie"

Clickbait on El Reg now? Shame on you.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: "George Bush naked selfie"

Baiters gonna bait. You just have to master your urge to, uh, click

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Re: "George Bush naked selfie"

Does it count as clickbait if the concept is one that inclines one to recoil in horror?

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Re: "George Bush naked selfie"

If it makes you recoil in horror, then it should be called ickbait...

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"No matter where they are in the world, those who commit crimes against U.S. citizens will be held accountable for their actions, pursued by our investigators and prosecutors and brought to justice."

or if your a U.S spook ..

"No matter where we are in the world, those who commit crimes on-behalf of the U.S. will not be held accountable for their actions, pursued by your investigators and prosecutors and never brought to justice."

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"Guccifer is accused of is broadcasting a painted self-portrait by former President George W Bush while naked in a shower and bath"

Naked hacking eh? He wants to watch out he doesn't drop the laptop into the water.

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Naked and Frightening

Guccifer is accused of is broadcasting a painted self-portrait by former President George W Bush while naked in a shower and bath

That alone should warrant the death penalty.

It's wrong! Just wrong... *sob*

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Anonymous Coward

Unequality before justice

I do not argue that he deserves some kind of punishment.

However, I find unacceptable the fact that the USA government thinks it is right that their citizens must be treated completely differently than the citizens of other, supposedly allied countries.

I find it disgusting that the Romanian government has accepted this unequal treatment.

A few years ago, an employee of the US embassy in Romania was drunk when driving and he killed a Romanian man. He was smuggled out of the country to escape justice. Then the USA refused to extradite him. He was tried instead in the USA, where he was more or less acquitted despite the evidence.

Even if we disregard the huge difference between a US citizen that kills a Romanian citizen and a Romanian citizen that only embarrasses a few US citizens, they both should have received equal treatment before law.

Either both should have been extradited & they both should have received severe punishments, or none should have been extradited and both should have received only benign punishments.

These are not some rare occurrences but there are probably hundreds or thousands of similar examples in various countries. And then many US citizens, who travel abroad and who are unaware about the typical behavior of their government, are very surprised when they receive no sympathy from the locals.

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Re: Unequality before justice

And it also does not help that Romanian politicians are all a bunch of corrupt and sniveling bastards that can and will suck up to anyone who would be capable of giving them any advantage, like covering up the political scandal of bribery involving Microsoft, or perhaps something else that we do not know about...

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Re: Unequality before justice

"A few years ago, an employee of the US embassy in Romania was drunk when driving and he killed a Romanian man."

While I agree with you, using an incident involving diplomatic immunity does not bolster your argument as the US is hardly alone in abusing this hackneyed concept.

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Re: Unequality before justice

I think that doesn't just apply to "Romanian politicians". There must be some catch-all name since the US , UK, EU, ad infinitum, etc. would apply. Might better if we could name the governments not corrupt and sniveling.

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America: Land of the Greed and the Home of the BULLY!

A hacker embarrasses an American politician and he is a despicable hacker scumbag. A US drone pilot squeezes the trigger on his joystick that results in a missile slaughtering an innocent wedding party, including children, and he gets a medal pinned on his chest.

No wonder America is hated by most of the world. You are either with them or against them. Sounds like a 4 year old bully in a playground argument. Grow up America.

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Fuck The USA!

Basically.

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So... let me get this right

If I leave my house front door open and something gets stolen then I can claim on my insurance? No, thought not. There is usually a clause such as "must take reasonable measures to secure", which if this dude *guessed* details and passwords then the true custodians of said accounts did not take such measures... I'm sure there is something about if I don't secure my wifi and someone downloads unsavoury content that me, as the wifi network owner, are likely to be cuffed for? Sigh. Shooting the messenger springs to mind.

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The only people who enjoy this sort of "protection" are the elite members of the ruling class like Bush, Sarah Palin, etc.

The rest of us can just go pound sand as far as law-enforcement is concerned, if someone guesses our lousy AOL password.

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