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/evil grin
An inmate of an Australian jail is on hunger strike in order to retain possession of a mobile phone he's kept inside his anus for up to a week. The inmate is believed to be Kon Georgiou, a convicted triple-murderer doing a long stretch inside Goulburn Jail's “Super Max” unit. That facility is reserved for the worst of the …
At least it answers Orlowskis recent question - "nope - another is being created in the usual way ready for production as we speak".
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“Frankly, I'm happy for him to rot there until the phone is passed.”
If only the English were as forthright when it came to making statements. In the UK we'd hire a PR firm, to make a statement after consulting lawyers as to whether there were any potential implications to his EU mandated human rights.
I do have an interesting question though. Where's the charger for all these phones in prison ? Or do they standardise the model and have charged batteries smuggled in, I think we should be told.
Equally, if it was here the prisoner would be straight in to the EU court of human rights, and would probably win.
Interestingly, all that's happened is a metal detector has gone "ping", so it may not be a phone (even if that's the most likely item of contraband to make the detector go "ping").
Would you be referring to the EHCR that was set up after WW2 (hoping to prevent more things like the holocaust) that we were instrumental in, and even Russia has signed up to?
True the EU requires members to be signed up to it, but we were, well before we joined the EU.
Seems like someone has believed misinformation from someone with an agenda.
Just like most of the complaints about the EU, things that aren't up to the EU and we have messed up ourselves .(And we are always the only country with that problem too.)
Back on topic - for hunger strikers, perhaps they should just deliver a nice pizza to the cell to test their resolve.
I think Jess is right here, the rights concerned are not from the EU but the European Convention on Human Rights (which was mostly written by a British subject)..
I'm also pretty sure the statement made by the Australian Minister doesn't contravene them and is one ministers in other ECHR countries might make. I think the concern with PC statements is largely a British one.
Unrelated trivia: I believe in Belgium a prisoner had the right to escape but they are not allowed to do anything illegal to facilitate that escape. So they can't knock out a guard, or blow a whole in the wall but they could run away or climb over a fence.
Of course the Australian minister isn't contravening them. Australia isnt party to the ECHR.
This is mainly down to Australia not being in Europe.
Next up, the Human Rights Act 1998 are the laws made to enshrine the ECHR within British laws. I am paraphrasing that bit from the Labour party, they are the ones responsible for creating it as part of their manifesto pledge in the 1997 UK elections.
And of course, it wasn't written by a British subject, but instead by all 12 members of the council of Europe at that time. If it had been written by the British, it would make actual sense.
"British MP and lawyer Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe, the Chair of the Assembly's Committee on Legal and Administrative Questions, was one of its leading members and guided the drafting of the Convention. "
I didn't mean to imply that he was solely responsible.
Australia doesn't have to sign up for one of its citizens to say something which contravenes the convention... but I think you know that.....
you can only contravene an agreement if you have agreed to it. As Australia hasnt agreed to the European Convention for Human Rights then nothing has been contravened.
I used the full title there, just so you know its to do with Europe. Which still doesnt include Australia.
And Maxwell-Fyfe was just part of the process, he didnt "mostly write" it, you know like you said he did in your anon post.
"I do have an interesting question though. Where's the charger for all these phones in prison ? Or do they standardise the model and have charged batteries smuggled in, I think we should be told."
They usually smuggle in a small usb charging cable which they then connect up to the communal wing playstation or whatever to charge their phones ..
Apparently
Lol... They dont have playstations in Australian gaols (That's how you spell "jail" in the Queen's English), or anything else accommodating a USB. But they do have electricity, so they would need the complete charger.
Glad to see there are few jokes about us all being convicts... Some of us are turning the keys now!! :)
I'm more interested in who they can presently convince to hook up that specific phone to a charger :).
Causing a connect spark in that specific environment may amount to "cruel and unusual punishment", though. On the plus side, the wait for spontaneous evacuation would certainly be over..
:)
In all actuality they probably leave them switched OFF most of the time, partly to preserve battery power and partly to avoid detection. If they're only using them for the occasional weekly ET then the battery should last for a couple of months before going flat, by which time it would generally have been found and confiscated - thus meaning they probably wouldn't have any need for a charger.
On another note, they'd probably only leave them on Vibrate if they enjoyed that sort of thing.
Australia - The biggest open nick in the world (obligatory Australian prison joke as told by me to every Australian I have ever known and it is always received with it's intention of being just fun)
Apparently it's an iPhone they asked Tim Cook to remove it so he wrote an open letter about the privacy of apple users and how he respected their collective arseholes and that be would not breach their walled garden,