Scariest climate change prediction yet: More time to eat plane food

Re: False premise leads to false results

"it took many years to establish a trend"

But only a few years in this case to demonstrate that something is not "stable" but is subject to significant variation.

Trends like AGW though do indeed take many years to take us to the current point of lack of credible scientific doubt.

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Well, NomNomNom, you might actually read some of the sources claiming this (but we all know you won't, because you are a cheerleader for this bullshit). The links have been provided, so you do not have to dig up the papers - I have read some of them, utter bollocks!

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2015 is the hottest on record in all records except the lower troposphere records. It beats both 2010 and 1997.

That's land surface, sea surface and ocean heat.

curiously sceptics only see fit to ever quote the lower troposphere records as the single source of truth. Never mentioning that the most serious errors found in any records were in those lower troposphere records, which are just as heavily adjusted as the surface records.

As I said before the whole data adjustment conspiracy theory is politically motivated by sceptics straining for a justification for why they cherrypick the record that is most convenient to their argument. That's also why sceptics never question the adjustments made to the lower troposphere records. They could do so easily, but it wouldn't be politically expedient for the lobbyist funded think tanks (GWPF, Heartland Institute, SEPP) who churn out the sceptic memes for media consumption to do so.

Another thing is that only a few years ago sceptics were actively citing the other records to claim there was a pause in warming. It's only since additional time in a warming world has demolished the idea that the world has stopped warming that they are now disowning those records and clinging on to one. I expect the lower troposphere will go the same way soon too. All the indexes are heading upwards, it's only a matter of time.

Even sea level which is a proxy of thermal expansion and therefore (although just a few years ago sceptics were even trying to claim that had paused).

All the failed predictions seem to be stacking up on the side of the sceptics. Including their global cooling "it's going to cool down any day now" ideas.

Only the fervent believers among sceptics are going to be able to keep it up in coming years, probably trying to whitewash the history of pause advocacy in the process. We'll have another arctic sea ice record minimum in years to come and these sceptics will be desperately trying for a THIRD time to claim it's the last one and that ice is not heading towards zero. Really don't think the wider world is going to buy such insane repeatedly demonstrated wrong denial.

Perhaps this was why lewis page was disposed of. Afterall republican anti-science conspiracy theory style tabloid trash about "hoaxes" of adjusted data and new world order puppet masters is in stark contrast to decent scientific reporting such as:

http://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2016/01/thorough-not-thoroughly-fabricated-the-truth-about-global-temperature-data/

Perhaps the register doesn't want to be associated with trump-like reality bending stupidity anymore.

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"Accelerating sea level rises" - not happening anywhere in the real world. Of course after data is homogonised and corrected, who knows (or cares).

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"the only way to reduce their population growth is to make them better off."

Or not spend billions of our aid budget on keeping them alive in countries already populated well beyond what local resources can consistently support.

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"Actually the pause no longer exists in most datasets."

And there we have it ...

“He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.”

Re: False premise leads to false results

Well Vogon, now I know you are a clown, not like there has been any doubt for a least a decade now.

You really need to educate yourself on the total GHG effect in the atmosphere versus the delta of human GHG emissions. Thermogeddon is not going to happen. The missing science is still AWOL.

What is more likely to happen is that idiot governments will listen to idiot pseudo-scientists and spend billions on desalination plants because rain is going to stop falling (or whatever there next wrong prediction is), making life less good for everyone. Oh wait, that already happened!

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"Anyone quoting incorrectly as 97% of climate scientists maybe. The actual consensus was 97% of peer reviewed climate science papers. See the source I posted."

And I posted the links where this piece of fraudulent surveying (and others) was debunked over and over again. You read not one of the referenced papers or articles.

That 97% of scientists who believe in AGW agree with AGW is a pretty poor showing. Apparently 3% of the believers are heretics.