back to article Boffins: There's a ninth planet out there – now we just need to find it

Scientists at CalTech claim to have found proof that there is a ninth planet in the solar system, using computer modeling and historical astronomy data. The new planet has a mass about 10 times that of Earth and has a very eccentric path around our Sun, making one complete orbit every 10,000 or 20,000 years and travelling 200 …

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  1. wolfetone Silver badge

    Nibiru...

    .... is that you?

    1. Bob Dole (tm)

      Re: Nibiru...

      Is it sad that my very first thought on hearing about this planet was that the UFO and End of The World people were going to seriously go nuts about it?

      The only thing that could make it worse is if they find this planet only a few hundred years away (or less) from crossing the orbital path of a major planet like Jupiter or Saturn.

      1. Captain Hogwash

        Re: Nibiru...

        The UFO people? I really don't see why members of the United Fruitcake Outlet would be interested in astronomy.

    2. Graham Marsden
      Thumb Up

      Re: Nibiru...

      ITYM "Rupert"

  2. Novex

    I was thinking Mondas...

    1. TRT Silver badge

      Our transformer just blew up...

      There seems to be an energy drain...

      1. BebopWeBop

        Re: Our transformer just blew up...

        O.K. There's a ball of fire, it's 1200 miles in diameter headin straight for Earth, and we have no idea how to stop it. *That's* the problem.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Trollface

    If Pluto is taken.

    Should we name the new planet "Goofy"? Would work well with it's orbit!

    This could also open up untold corporate sponsorship opportunities, such as "Walt Disney Corporation Presents Goofy--the Planet" or a certain coffee shop can name the planet Starbucks, so there really is a Starbucks in every corner of the solar system.

    The money raised could be used for science education, which is a way of saying it will probably get spent on conference junkets.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If Pluto is taken.

      "so there really is a Starbucks in every corner of the solar system."

      I know it says it has an eccentric orbit, but corners? Is this channeling D N Adams or M C Escher?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If Pluto is taken.

      How about "Bob", as enunciated by Rowan Atkinson.

      It suggests an identity but at the same time ridicules it.

      1. BlackAngus

        Re: If Pluto is taken.

        "You can't name a planet Bob." -Akima, Titan A. E.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If Pluto is taken.

      How about "The New Number Nine"?

      1. dan1980

        Re: If Pluto is taken.

        @Big John

        You know, I really like just plain "Planet Nine".

        Or, continuing the sci-fi theme, why not 'Ix'?

        But, if keeping the Roman god theme, then Bacchus might be an okay fit. Sure, it's unlikely that a god of wine would get the nod but Dionysus did leave Olympus to wander through Greece and beyond so that part fits.

        1. Ammaross Danan

          Re: If Pluto is taken.

          "9" is a movie and the MPAA would sue them into the ground.

        2. erikj

          Re: If Pluto is taken.

          My aged computer science background says we should increment the planet number by 10s in case we have to someday insert new planets between the ones we know about today.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Alien

            Re: If Pluto is taken.

            How about LV-426?

            That way when space tourism opens up we can sell T-shirts.

            "I went to LV-426 and all I got was a hug"

            1. Dave 126 Silver badge

              Call it Glenda, after the mascot for Plan[et] 9 From Bell Labs.

              But seriously, Planet names are weird. They are all Roman, except Earth, and strangely Uranus which is Greek. Many of the Solar System's moons are Roman or Greek, or else named after mythological figures from many cultures, Inuit, Gallic, Hawaiian, and so on. There are so many of them that we can assume the best names are already taken.

              There might be worse ideas than to look to a synthetic mythology for a new planet name. Given Tolkein's day job, some character's from Middle Earth would at least sound right: Girion, Durin, Hirgon, Amrothos

              http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/Page/Planets

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Middle-earth_characters

              1. Neoc

                Re: Call it Glenda, after the mascot for Plan[et] 9 From Bell Labs.

                @Dave 126:

                "Earth" is the English version. A more generic term that's been used is "Terra", and that is a Roman Goddess ("Gaia" being the Greek equivalent).

                1. CarbonLifeForm

                  Re: Call it Glenda, after the mascot for Plan[et] 9 From Bell Labs.

                  Also "Tellus', if you're in a EE Doc Smith frame of mind.

                2. CarbonLifeForm

                  Re: Call it Glenda, after the mascot for Plan[et] 9 From Bell Labs.

                  How about Tellus? Though that's usually associated with the Earth, it's a nice, non-flippant name.

              2. Robert Helpmann??
                Childcatcher

                Re: Call it Glenda, after the mascot for Plan[et] 9 From Bell Labs.

                I would disagree that all the best names are taken as there are so many different cultures and thus mythologies from which to draw. I am not saying that I disagree with the suggestion that Tolkien's characters should be considered, either for this or other astronomical bodies, just that I believe there is plenty of play left among the various mythological names still available. My vote is for Kokopelli as it fits the the planet's wandering path.

                And no matter what, you can't call a planet "Bob"!

                1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
                  Alien

                  Plan Nine from Outer Space

                  There's even prior art. What's not to like?

            2. Ben Bonsall

              Re: If Pluto is taken.

              I want a t-shirt with 6 sleeves, and 'I was abducted and taken to an ant-world, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt' on the front.

              1. Dave 126 Silver badge

                Re: If Pluto is taken.

                >I want a t-shirt with 6 sleeves, and 'I was abducted and taken to an ant-world, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt' on the front.

                Pop over to Etsy.com and make a request! :)

                1. Uncle Slacky Silver badge

                  Re: If Pluto is taken.

                  I went to a planet with no bilateral symmetry and all I got was this lousy F-shirt.

          2. Charles Manning

            Re: If Pluto is taken.

            You could always GOSUB.

          3. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: If Pluto is taken.

            "says we should increment the planet number by 10s"

            That's just basic astronomy.

          4. E 2

            @erikj Re: If Pluto is taken.

            You could have planet 9, planet 10, planet 9.5, planet 9.51, etc.

            Like sections in some uni physics textbooks.

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        4. Kernel

          Re: If Pluto is taken.

          "Or, continuing the sci-fi theme, why not 'Ix'?"

          Works for me - I might just catch the next Heighliner heading that way and take a quick look at it.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Devil

            Re: If Pluto is taken.

            watch out for ixian facedancers

            1. TRT Silver badge

              Re: If Pluto is taken.

              I want one of those with 8 arms, a picture of a blue crystal and Metabilis III on it.

        5. lawndart

          Re: If Pluto is taken.

          The trouble with Ix is, it means "Boy who cannot satisfactorily explain what a Hrung is, nor why it should choose to collapse on Betelgeuse Seven".

          Any visiting aliens are going to think we are really weird.

        6. DropBear
          Joke

          Re: If Pluto is taken.

          "You know, I really like just plain "Planet Nine""

          Aha, sure... and I suppose that makes its far, weird orbit "plane nine in outer space"...?

        7. hplasm
          Stop

          "You know, I really like just plain "Planet Nine"."

          No, no, no no,no!

          It must be Planet Ten- else what of Planet X?

          Also, no matter how large it is, it will probably be classed as a 'Dwarf, Elf or Gnome World.

          Pluto is a bloody planet. Get over it. Planet #9.

          s/Ninth/Tenth

          grr!

        8. Anonymous Coward
          Joke

          Re: If Pluto is taken.

          GIven the orbit, it may really be a "drunk" planet.. but Bacchus name is already taken by an asteroid. Unluckily, the IAU "wasted" too many good mythological names for little asteroids, it looks they didn't believe any major planet could be found, nor some "dwarf" ones.

          I would call it Chronus (AFAIK is not taken, but I could be wrong) - given the distance at it circles the Solar System, and the time it takes.

          (Yes, I know Chronos instead woud make some Star Trek fans happy, but in Latin it's Chronus).

          1. dan1980

            Re: If Pluto is taken.

            @LDS

            Damn it!

            But then Cronus is identified with Saturn for the Romans and that is also taken!! Saturn is actually the PERFECT name as Saturn/Cronus was expelled by Zeus/Jupiter, which is one of the likely theories of how the planet in question got its orbit!!

            Double damn it!!!

        9. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: If Pluto is taken.

          Well if we're heading down the mythological/deity route, with an orbit like that surely it should be named Bilious?

          1. TRT Silver badge

            Re: If Pluto is taken.

            Planet? Shmamet! Janet.

        10. CarbonLifeForm

          Re: If Pluto is taken.

          Big, beefy planet, wandering away from the other gods. Herakles.

          Or we could go with with Hera, Jupiter's wife. Or Minerva.

      2. jimbo60

        Bring in the Beatles

        Revolution 9?

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: If Pluto is taken.

        @Big John - or 'Nine of Ten' , perhaps?

    4. ashdav

      Re: If Pluto is taken.

      The coffee shop/restaurant to which you refer is called Milliways.

      Try to keep up.

    5. MyffyW Silver badge
      Paris Hilton

      Re: If Pluto is taken.

      Starbuck's in every corner of the solar system

      What has Kara Thrace got to do with this?

    6. John Presland

      Re: If Pluto is taken.

      Please, "its" not "it's".

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I don't entirely agree

    "Pluto was also proved mathematically to exist but it was nearly 100 years later before it was confirmed, and then demoted to dwarf planet status in an infamous 2006 astronomers' vote."

    As I understand it, irregularities in the motion of Neptune could have been due to a planet orbiting beyiond Neptune. But Pluto was not that planet. In fact, when it was discovered it was reported as being at the top of the error bar for the observed size, and even then it was too small to account for the irregularities. Subsequent observations narrowed the error bars, and the top one was consistently in a downward direction. By 2006 it was clear that (a) Pluto was much smaller than had originally been supposed, smaller in fact than some moons and only 70% the diameter of our own; and (b) it wasn't the proximate cause of the Neptunian irregularity. This led to the downgrading of Pluto.

    And here is our very own Jocelyn Bell-Burnell announcing the result:

    (The last time I saw J B-B she was handing round the tea at Bradford upon Avon Quaker Meeting, which is a slightly less august gathering.)

    I know that some US astronomers still moan because Pluto was the only "planet" to be discovered by an American but come on, guys, the achievements of the US in astronomy are such that a potty little rock orbiting a G-glass star shouldn't be a bone of contention. You're bigger than that.

    1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
      Holmes

      Re: I don't entirely agree

      I would also quarrel with the adjective "mathematically". That would imply there is a mathematical logic system having total true/false values in there. What we want to read is "predicted to exist based on error-laden observational data of orbital perturbations"

      1. John Savard

        Re: I don't entirely agree

        While mathematicians prove mathematical statements with absolute truth, mathematics is also used to do things in the real world, like building bridges. So using mathematics to find Neptune, although it worked, had nothing to do with proving Neptune's existence as though it were a theorem. So I don't see a problem with "mathematically" as an adjective entering into the description.

    2. John Savard

      Re: I don't entirely agree

      Yes, I was going to comment on this point after reading the article. After the discovery of Neptune, similar calculations were made which predicted another planet, and looking for that planet, Pluto was found. But those calculations were mistaken; not only was Pluto too small to cause the perturbations for which they were looking for a cause, but in addition, those perturbations weren't real (otherwise, another new planet, bigger than Pluto, would have been found by now - instead, the error in the observations used in the calculations has been found).

  5. Rusty 1
    Happy

    Gastronomic opportunities

    Oh distant ninth, will you provide us with an unknown flesh that will complement the surf and turf, golden eagle, and giant panda we have here already? If so, we'll find the helium and be right over.

    If it's all flora, no worries, we have sprouts already.

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