back to article Fans demand 'Lemmium' periodic table tribute

Inevitably, and agreeably, an online petition is demanding that one of the four heavy metal elements coming soon to an engorged periodic table near you be named "Lemmium", in honour of recently departed Motörhead frontman Ian Fraser Kilmister, aka Lemmy. The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) has …

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  1. NanoMeter

    And what about

    Elvisium, Hendrixium and Winehouseium?

    1. Stoneshop
      Flame

      Re: And what about

      Hendrixium

      Only if it's hypergolic with guitars.

    2. Voland's right hand Silver badge

      Re: And what about

      Halfordium seems more appropriate. Though for that it will have to have a half-life at least until after midnight.

    3. x 7

      Re: And what about

      "and Winehouseium?"

      should that not read Whinehousium???? Her singing was as musical as my son's pet frog

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: And what about

        I'll take her over Motorhead any day!

        1. x 7

          Re: And what about

          "I'll take her over Motorhead any day!"

          bloody necrophiliac.....

      2. Wilseus

        Re: And what about

        [Amy Winehouse's] singing was as musical as my son's pet frog

        I guess that's a matter of opinion, my dad and I both liked her but my mum, who is a music teacher, didn't find her to be to her taste.

        The production of her albums though, was absolutely appalling, they even manage to sound harsh and compressed on my crappy car system, with the engine running. Back to Black is genuinely the worst sounding CD I've ever come across.

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  2. Falanx

    Yes, we do know why.,,,

    The nickname came about from his inordinate ability to score loans off friends and never pay them back;

    "Lemmy 10 quid..."

    1. Richard Wharram

      Re: Yes, we do know why.,,,

      Myth.

      1. chivo243 Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: Yes, we do know why.,,,

        The myth I heard was Lemmy was a roadie for Jimi Hendrix, and always wanted to play bass...

        C'mon Jimi, Lemmy play bass!

      2. Stevie

        Re: Yes, we do know why (lemmee atenner)

        Myth as reported in the New Musical Express back when the name first became a thing with Hawkwind.

        Get off my lawn, wikilad.

    2. BongoJoe

      Re: Yes, we do know why.,,,

      I heard it was fivers.

      1. Stevie

        Re: I heard it was fivers.

        Indeed it was a fiver. The amount seemed trivial in the face of the imminent enmythment of the Lemmy Name Origin apocrypha by some zygote weaned on Wikipedia, which had enraged me beyond the capacity for rational editing. Ten quid was a week's living money in them days.

        Interesting coincidence, the NME coming up again. Just before Xmas while rooting in my garage I turned up a double page spread from NME that featured a Lowry cartoon lampooning Tommy (the movie). Big Lowry fan in them days, me. On the other side was a blow-by-blow report of the making of the Black Knight scene being filmed for the eagerly anticipated Monty Python and the Holy Grail fillum complete with a picture of the limbless kernigget in question. They also covered the filming of the "We're the Knights of The Round Table" musical number. It was reported as "chaos".

    3. Goldmember

      Re: Yes, we do know why.,,,

      I read on some site or other last week that it was 'lemmy a quid', as he'd developed an addiction to slot machines whilst still in school

  3. wolfetone Silver badge
    Stop

    Heavy Metal?

    Motorhead were pure rock and roll. Lemmy said so himself.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Heavy Metal?

      Quite right

    2. MyffyW Silver badge

      Re: Heavy Metal?

      To quote the great man himself "We're Motorhead and we play dirty f***ing rock and roll."

    3. Franco

      Re: Heavy Metal?

      Indeed he did, many times. His influence on Heavy Metal is without question, even if (in Lemmy's words) they all got the wrong end of the stick by focusing on the speed and volume.

      As much as I am a fan of Motorhead, this is not the correct way to honour Lemmy's passing.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Heavy Metal?

        Lemmy liked to take the p1$$, so this is very much in his spirit. He claimed once that he got so bored of singing Ace of Spades for 2 years he sang 8 of Spades and no one noticed. (He might have been bored of the song but to the absolute limits of human endurance he gave the fans everything he could.) There will never be anyone like him again, forged from bits of Little Richard, Cochran et al when rock was born, educated shifting Hendrix's gear (...), riding the front wave of the punk explosion without being an actual punk and carrying on in that vain for 40+ years. We couldn't make another if we tried, so naming an element that even if we can create a few atoms of it it is gone in <1s seems appropriate to me.

    4. Killing Time

      Re: Heavy Metal?

      The term 'Heavy Metal' was reputedly coined by Sandy Pearlman to describe the style of music produced by Blue Oyster Cult in the 70's, quite different from the Motorhead output which just happened to come out at the start of the NWBHM.

      The reality is though that Motorhead are musically simple, extremely loud and original. As such they bridged and influenced sub genres and genders. Punks accepted Motorhead, later Thrash and Death Metal bands freely admit to the influence and Girlschool would not have had the exposure they achieved at the time without Lemmy's support. Society at that time wasn't as equal as it is now.

      Even though he sung that the girl had 'No Class' this is precisely what he did have, form is temporary class is permanent.

      So Long Lemmy, thanks for the great memories...

      1. Mark 85

        Re: Heavy Metal?

        That's interesting. The first I heard the term was in reference to Led Zeppelin, Iron Butterfly, and couple of others of their ilk... very late 60's/very early 70's timeframe.

        1. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge
          Pint

          Re: Heavy Metal?

          The phrase "heavy metal" also made an early appearance in musical context in Steppenwolf's "Born to wild" in the line "Heavy metal thunder!" in 1968, so late 60s early 70s is about right

          Motörhead was fun whatever label you wish to put on it. I do not think Lemmy would mind being remembered as a heavy element that is born in a burst of energy, and disappears in a flash after a (too) short, (radio-)active life

          1. Killing Time

            Re: Heavy Metal?

            Look a little further than Wikipedia and you will find Pearlman was a journalist, manager / founder of BOC and manager of Black Sabbath along with being a prolific record producer. Not disputing Steppenwolf used it as a lyric but as a descriptor of a genre, the balance of debate favours Pearlman.

            I have been a rock fan from the early seventies and until the late seventies all references I recall were to hard or heavy rock. Perhaps this is why Lemmy rejected that Motorhead were a heavy metal band.

            I assert that the term is being applied retrospectively to the early bands and the likes of Led Zeppelin in the sixties, who for the record, in my opinion are not a heavy metal band. Their style is of the original description, a hard or heavy rock band.

            1. Mark 85

              Re: Heavy Metal?

              I wasn't looking at Wikiwhatever. I was looking at when I lived in Southern California back then. The term "heavy metal" back then referred more to the names and their on stage presence than to the type of music. I don't recall that term being used much outside of Southern Cal until much later. In musical style, yeah.. Motorhead wasn't heavy metal.

              1. x 7

                Re: Heavy Metal?

                Southern California?

                Considering the local heroes and reference points were the Beach Boys, I'm surprised you've not tagged Dolly Parton and Cher as playing heavy metal

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  4. Stoneshop
    FAIL

    -nomy/-logy

    "an astrological object (a star) has been named Lemmy to meet the IUPAC naming recommendations".

    Ahem.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: -nomy/-logy

      And we were worried about the new more grown-up more professional Reg wouldn't be as funny

      1. Anonymous Custard

        Re: -nomy/-logy

        We commentards are there to steer it right, and seemingly now even to get recognised in articles too...

        1. Stoneshop
          Boffin

          Re: -nomy/-logy

          It's straight from the petition*, although El Reg should have added a [sic].

          * small French atom that's lost a few electrons.

    2. TitterYeNot

      Re: -nomy/-logy

      "an astrological object (a star) has been named Lemmy to meet the IUPAC naming recommendations".

      To be fair though, it would be far cooler to say you were born under the sign of Lemmy rather than Libra or Pisces etc. It would make your daily Horoscope simpler too -

      "Tuesday 5th January: Sex & Drugs & Rock'n'Roll."

      "Wednesday 6th January: Sex & Drugs & Rock'n'Roll."

      "Thursday 7th January..."

      And as to the new elements 113, 115, 117, and 118, none of them is worthy of the name Lemmium unless capable of melting brains and causing involuntary bowel movements for anyone within a 50 foot radius...

      1. Jan 0 Silver badge

        Re: -nomy/-logy

        > ".. Sex & Drugs & Rock'n'Roll."

        Errm, leave out the drugs, this is the Lemmy who left Hawkwind, right?

        1. Andrew Denton 1

          Re: -nomy/-logy

          Lemmy didn't leave Hawkwind - he was fired for doing to many drugs and drinking too much. An achievement in itself.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: -nomy/-logy

      Also, AFAIK, you can't name stars (those having one are historical ones, still kept). And names of other objects (i.e. asteroids) are still subject to IAU rules. So if he bought a name from some of the scammers who sells you "stars", he's a double moron.

  5. SoloSK71

    If anything one of the new elements should be names Lehrerium

  6. Adze

    If this happens then it has to be metallic and harder than a bear with a flick knife.

    1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      "How do you call a bear with a flick knife?"

      "Sir."

  7. Roo
    Alert

    On one hand, Bravo !

    Then on the other hand what next ?

    Highest bidder ?

    Failed Presidential Candidates ?

    How about the guys who actually built the kit that created & detected the atoms ?

    1. Unep Eurobats

      Re: On one hand, Bravo !

      "How about the guys who actually built the kit that created & detected the atoms?"

      Well, yes, quite right, it should be them. Then they can decide whether to line their pockets/support Tha Trumpster/whatever.

      I hope that being high-order boffins mundane concerns will be beneath them, and they might choose something witty and fitting in order to embiggen the general jollification.

    2. Midnight

      Re: On one hand, Bravo !

      Traditionally, the element is named after the person or team that discovered it.

      The element _is_ a heavy metal, and this _is_ Lemmy we're taking about, so I don't see the problem.

      1. Nigel 11

        Re: On one hand, Bravo !

        Someone also needs to comment on the "live fast, die young" ethos which I think was embraced by the man and is certainly embraced by the element. Note that both for elements and men, that attitude doesn't guarantee an early demise. It just means they are rolling the dice more often.

  8. Zog_but_not_the_first
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    Excellent

    I like this idea. Presumably the element is poisonous to lawns.

    1. lawndart

      Re: Excellent

      What?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Excellent

        Quoth the man himself about Motorhead: 'if we moved in next door, your lawn would die'

    2. Nigel 11

      Re: Excellent

      It's very, very radioactive. So yes, it's not good for lawns.

      1. Sven Coenye
        Mushroom

        Re: Excellent

        Also meets the brain melting and bowel movement requirement then...

  9. marhor
    Alien

    One's already taken

    I guess you all know that element 115 is already taken; its name is "Elerium". A secret military organisation discovered it a couple years ago and used it to our all benefit. Without it, we may never have repelled that alien invasion back then...

    1. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge
      IT Angle

      Re: One's already taken

      The first or second one?

      Theres always a sequel.........

      except to Lemmy, a one off if ever there was one.

      <<saw Motorhead on the Ace of spades tour....... and has'nt been the same since

    2. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      Re: One's already taken

      IIRC, they actually used an isotope of Elerium. But then I'm still a bit woozy from all the EMP-blasts back then.

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