back to article Five key findings from 15 years of the International Space Station

The International Space Station is the longest-running continuously inhabited human outpost in space, and this year it celebrated its 15th anniversary. As the ISS orbits the Earth it is essentially in a state of free fall, counteracting the Earth’s gravity and providing an ideal platform for science in space. Science aboard …

  1. Rikkeh

    Industrial processes... in SPAAACE!

    I wonder how long it's going to be before these zero gravity processes have widespread commercial applications. What I really mean by this is how long is it going to be before we have private drug labs and metamaterial factories in low earth orbit?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Industrial processes... in SPAAACE!

      Most of what was mentioned in the article could have been discovered (or was) without the ISS in much cheaper craft.

      I'm not saying the ISS was a waste of time but I don't think the things mentioned in the article can justify the expense.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Industrial processes... in SPAAACE!

        We could probably just have put a shuttle in orbit.. and outfitted it with a docking port so that supplies and astro/cosmo nauts could be brought on board and taken back all the time while the experiments ran, and then we could maybe even add a few more add-on modules to the craft so that we had more space for instruments/experiments and crew.. and once you've done that you could even have added some solar panels for electricity/charging batteries.

        Much cheaper than building a space station ;)

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Industrial processes... in SPAAACE!

          I think the point trying to be made is that you don't need all of those things to get us to the state of knowledge we have today. Some things were already known, or could have been found out without the ISS and others could be achieved in a Shuttle or unmanned craft.

      2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Industrial processes... in SPAAACE!

        I AM saying it was a massive waste of money as far as science was concerned.

        It's real purpose was to subsidize Boeing (and it's Russian counterpart) following the end of the cold war, but since we managed to find new bogeymen that needed even more expensive weapons to fight - even that was a waste.

        If it was about science why is the main criterion for being a crew member that you were a fighter pilot , and preferably one with a media freindly human interest quirk like playing the guitar ? Perhaps CERN would do better if it was lead by an ex-SAS man and every researcher had to have been in the paras?

      3. Bleu

        Re: Industrial processes... in SPAAACE!

        The key, foundational, and dangerous work on at least two of the five points in the article was done on Mir, not the ISS. Some work on the others, too.

        Which craft have been most reliable on lift to, descent from, and supply for the ISS?

        Soyuz and Progress.

        Compared with the Mir programme, Skylab was a joke. Sure, the ISS is great, modules from even Italy (the viewing module). us, but the core remains Russian.

        Happy New Year to all Regtards!

      4. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        @AC

        OK I'll grant you that stuff like the flame experiments could have been done in automated microsatellites or the like. But even if you throw all that out, the one thing that couldn't be done in cheaper craft is figuring out what happens to the human body after long periods of time in zero gravity and seeing what things will combat that.

        Unless you are one of those who thinks all exploration should be automated and there's no reason for people to leave our little rock at all, this is something we'll need to figure out before we try to send people further than the Moon. It wouldn't do to send astronauts to Mars or Europa and break their legs when they step out and try to emulate the iconic Neil Armstrong footprint!

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Re: @AC

          So the only real "science" that the ISS has done is how to operate and crew the ISS ?

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: @AC

            That's not what I said, but certainly some of the things they've done could have been automated.

            But your simplification is stupid. Do you really think that how to keep people alive and healthy in space is not something we need to know, or is something we can figure out without ever leaving the ground?

            1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

              Re: @AC

              Do you really think that how to keep people alive and healthy in space is not something we need to know

              I'll bite. Why do we "need" to know that? Want to know, sure, plenty of folks would like to know things that would enable further space exploration by humans. But what justifies describing it as a need? What necessary good is allocated by satisfying it?

              Here, I'll supply the default answer: the survival of the human species after the next Earth extinction event that's too much for us to handle. Sorry; I'm not buying that as necessary. Again, yeah, lots of folks see it as desirable, and in fact I don't think there's any good rational argument for or against that position. But I think calling it necessary is extremely dubious, and referring to someone who doubts it as "stupid" is simply lazy thinking on your part.

    2. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      Re: Industrial processes... in SPAAACE!

      Well, looks like that electric car guy and the other guy from that bookstore are making headway into private space flight. Once that works on a regular basis, automated orbital factories are the next logical step. Sadly, the first factories will be making stuff that won't advance humankind as such, but stuff that fetches sky-high prices - my money would be on SuperViagra and weaponry of some kind or other.

      1. Stoneshop
        Coat

        Re: Industrial processes... in SPAAACE!

        but stuff that fetches sky-high prices

        ITYM "astronomical prices"

      2. PNGuinn
        Joke

        Re: Industrial processes... in SPAAACE!

        Nah - hoverboards powered by supercool microflames to keep your tootsies cool. What's not to like apart from the brain graunching publicity?

    3. TheVogon

      Re: Industrial processes... in SPAAACE!

      You forgot:

      6. Space time is GMT.

  2. Your alien overlord - fear me

    So to sum up... we're growing fire crystals to combat cosmic ray superbugs which destroy human bodies. That sound about right?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Thank you for the NASA to Trump translation :)

  3. Richard_L
    WTF?

    The fragility of the human body...

    I like how the section entitled "The fragility of the human body" has a picture of someone running over scissors while tied to a treadmill. I wonder how well that particular experiment ended?

    1. chivo243 Silver badge

      Re: The fragility of the human body...

      The scissors must be floating, they couldn't be on the moving tread could they?

      He seems to be smiling so far. We need an after experiment photo ;-]

      1. Commswonk

        Re: The fragility of the human body...

        They look a bit more like artery forceps, but I haven't the foggiest idea what they might be there for.

  4. 404

    Providing you'll be using material from asteroids...

    ... delivery into the gravity well would be inexpensive as it is all downhill...

    Hell of a business plan to use essentially free material, unlimited solar power to produce product, then chuck into the gravity well for delivery. Get there first and $profit$.

    Then would come tourism and serious exploration as a result. Human $win$

  5. Lusty

    That candle may burn the wax efficiently but I bet it lasted far less time with the flame constantly on the wax. Amazing how candles are so specifically suited to our gravity...

  6. sean.fr

    Money better spent

    The same old zero G stuff, boring seen it, got the Teashirt. We know zero G is bad for you. Time to start testing the obvious solution and have a spinning platform. The point is not to put men in space (and the occasional woman). The point is actual doing something useful. If you do not have the budget to go anywhere, humans step out of the way and let the unmanned probes do the work. They actually deliver, but they only have a tiny fraction of this space tourism budget. More Voyager please!

    1. Fink-Nottle

      Re: Money better spent

      > got the Teashirt

      I sympathise with your plight. I have an elderly relative who also dribbles while drinking a hot beverage. Have you had a professional examine the fit of your dentures?

  7. chivo243 Silver badge

    Gotta spend it somewhere

    Sometimes I think we're moving too fast, maybe we need all this useless research to point out one or two critical points before we launch into full scale relocation.

    Upon further review of evidence, early signs point to diminishing sex drive. Surely the end of civilization as we know it....

    Has there ever been a sexuality in space study even been considered, aside from the pornigraphic aspects :-}

    1. DocJames

      Re: Gotta spend it somewhere

      I suspect the psychological aspects on the other crewmembers would be problematic. Unless you're going to start with a threesome +/- swinging. And I don't think that NASA would continue to be funded by Congress (fnarr) if they spent money on sex, especially outside gravity marriage.

      AFAIK orbital nookie hasn't happened; you'd promptly be world famous and rich forever.

      1. Paul Crawford Silver badge
        Coat

        Re: AFAIK orbital nookie hasn't happened

        But do they have a policy on orbital masturbation?

        Mine is the dirty mac, thanks ->

    2. Uffish
      Headmaster

      Re: Pornigraphic

      Here you are, a Porni graphic web page.

      https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Porni,+Afghanistan/@33.8017211,66.4512455,1685m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x3f2c65a22a9f1467:0x68a2fe274b343ef9

  8. tojb
    Happy

    other cooler stuff than these five

    This list is a bit buzzfeedy in that content has been sacrificed for comprehensibility. Other very interesting zero-gee science has been done, I could mention germination of plant seeds as one thing, or critical fluctuations around phase transitions as another: its tough to test a lot of physics theories in gravity, because the theories leave it out....

  9. YARR

    Interplanetary contamination - Drake-like equation

    Probability that Earth microbes already exist on Mars =

    time in years that bacterial life has spread over the Earth x

    probability of impact large enough to produce space ejecta in any year x

    probable number of meteoroids produced by impact x

    probability of microbes surviving heat of Earth impact x

    probability of microbes surviving in space x

    probability of meteoroid headed in direction of Mars x

    probability initial velocity is sufficient to reach Mars orbital distance from Sun x

    probability of alignment with Mars orbital plane and Mars gravity well x

    probability of microbes surviving impact with Mars

    All in all, quite likely then. Should we really worry about contaminating Mars?

  10. harmjschoonhoven
    Coffee/keyboard

    Re: cleaner auto ignitions

    So did the Flame Extinguishment Experiment-2 on ISS learn us that automobiles in free fall are less polluting?

  11. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

    Longest what, now?

    The International Space Station is the longest-running continuously inhabited human outpost in space

    Dude, it's way behind the Earth. Which, last I checked, is in space.

    (Prolepsis: The Earth is full of human outposts, too. Which are also in space. They don't exist outside of space.)

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