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Old jet bits, Vader's motorbike gear, sonic oddness: Hats off to Star Wars' creative heroes

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I wasn't quite old enough to watch the first one at the flicks but did watch empire a couple of years later (and Jedi). NOTHING else was talked about at school, playground was full of jedi, sith and tie vs xwing battles.

Even nowadays my kids are into star wars (through none of my fault honestly, it is just their friends etc). We have tickets for Friday when they finish school (as do almost all the class). Not many films (or series) can garner such interest across generations.

But it isn't just the films, there have been some epic computer games from XWing vs Tie fighter (and of course, xwing and tie fighter before that) - XWing alliance is still played to this day. Knight of the Old republic was a fantastic piece of work (HK-47 being a legendary part of the game). Kyle Katarn (cant remember the game name) was my first foray into FPS star wars (I wasn't bothered about dark forces), there were a couple of other FPS jedi games but their names escape me.

edit: I did watch the EP1,2 &3 at the cinema but haven't watched them more than once since, they were OK but in a way that "im thirsty and don't like Dr Pepper but there wasn't anything else in the shop" way.

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A toast to sonic improvisation

" – the Tardis take-off was created using a key rubbed up and own a taught piano wire – "

Arguably the greatest sound effect of all time.

Taut, by the way. Not taught.

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Taut, by the way. Not taught.

I think you'll find, he just has been.

Missed a d on down too. ;)

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Sloppy research El Reg

"Star Wars didn’t just succeed in that endeavour that once; it did so in five more films across almost four decades"

Had to stop reading to correct the article, it's two more films across six years.

I'll carry on reading now...

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Re: Sloppy research El Reg

There were some good parts in the "new" films. The bad parts usually appeared when they tried too hard. Too much slapstick (Jar Jar, R2 setting fire to things and overtly flying too much, wookie silliness etc etc). Ironically, if chunks were CUT from the films they would be better for it.

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Re: Sloppy research El Reg

I suppose you were hinting at The Phantom Edit and Attack of the Phantom which are still out there in Internet land and are much more watchable.

There's also the Despecialized Editions of the Original Trilogy which is the only way to get the non-messed about versions of the OT in HD.

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Re: Sloppy research El Reg

What's a "hung of junk"? And is the swastika supposed to be that way in the photo?

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Re: Sloppy research El Reg

There were some good parts in the "new" films.

You could say that about the Holiday Special as well: the animated Boba Fett part was all right.

The new films have some nice stuff but they progressed downwards into something terrible. Jar Jar or the silliness weren't the worst parts, it was the shitty acting and shitty dialogue between Natalie and Hayden.

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Re: Sloppy research El Reg

Well hung junk was a different star wars themed film. It had more slave leia action.

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Re: Sloppy research El Reg @Dan 55

In the absence of "Revenge of the Phantom" [ep 3], which would be about seventeen minutes long, I humbly submit this.

It's a script rather than actual video and contains much NSFW language, but is quite an amusing read.

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Re: Sloppy research El Reg

Ironically, if chunks were CUT from the films they would be better for it.

All the chunks with Hayden Christensen, and all of Episode I.

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"All the chunks with Hayden Christensen, and all of Episode I."

Honestly, Episode I would have been OK if Anakin's story had directly mirrored Luke's by starting him at 18. Drop the midichlorian crap and the "humourous" racial stereotyping as well and it would have been pretty good.

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Re: Sloppy research El Reg

Keep the Natalie Portman bits though, very pleasant on the eyes.

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Re: Bad acting

I think the acting was flat in the prequels due to the conditions they had to act in. I guess as an actor it's hard to get enthused when you are standing day after day in a green hanger, jumping on and off green blocks while a fat guy in a beard sips a latte 20 feet away. Flat surrounds means flat acting.

That's why Abrams wanted to go back to proper sets where possible so it invigorated the actors.

I also suspect the whole green screen thing put Denis Lawson off returning as Wedge as I bet he had many chats about the process with his nephew. I reckon he might have regretted that now but he wasn't to know when he made the decision.

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I miss the old days

When you could just rate an article, rather than having to post a comment to say what you thought of it.

I liked this one.

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What's with all that Star Wars articles?

Is there something going on that I'm not aware of?

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Re: What's with all that Star Wars articles?

Nah, this isn't the movie you're looking for. Move along, move along... ;)

(well with a set-up line like that, someone had to).

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Re: What's with all that Star Wars articles?

Yup, this silliness is about to come out now-ish... I think...

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Re: What's with all that Star Wars articles?

maybe - there is a new Sith lord - link

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Re: What's with all that Star Wars articles?

Yes, the long-anticipated pre-prequel trilogy starts this weekend with:

Episode -2: Point of Order - Two riveting hours of G-SPAN Galactic Senate coverage of the debate on why the Trade Federation must be allowed to maintain its embargo of Naboo.

Followed in 2018 by:

Episode -1: Jar Jar Begins - We will finally learn of the heroic rise and tragic fall of a once proud Gungan warrior. By tragic fall, I mean the fall that resulted in the catastrophic head injury that explains his behavior in Episode 1.

The entire endeavor will rich a fevered climax in 2021 with:

Episode 0: A Matter of Protocol - detailing the trials and tribulations within the Skywalker household that led young Anakin to build his enslaved mother a prissy multi-lingual diplomat robot.

WOOHOO! NOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Personally I can't wait to find out what new and exciting ways my childhood memories will be shat all over by the new film.

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Wasn't the Nazi symbol the swastika? Why are all the soldiers in front of a sauwastika? Someone at shutterstock has been carelessly flipping images...

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Not the evil wiki empire?

That Sauwastika pic, it looks like a flipped one from ol' Jimbo "spare change for a coffee?" Wiles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_propaganda

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> A fair few of the Tatooine props, not to mention the Light Sabre grips, were built from parts from early jet aircraft

To quote the wookieepedia, Obi-Wan's lightsabre was "assembled from parts of an Armitage Shanks Starlite model Handwheel, Browning ANM2 machine gun booster, WWI No.3 Mk.1 British Rifle Grenade and a Rolls-Royce Derwent Mk.8/Mk.9 Jet Engine Balance Pipe."

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Makes it sound even more impressive.

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Interesting

Armitage Shanks Starlite model Handwheel, Browning ANM2 machine gun booster, WWI No.3 Mk.1 British Rifle Grenade and a Rolls-Royce Derwent Mk.8/Mk.9 Jet Engine Balance Pipe."

Interesting combination - cheap kitchen tap, machine gun, grenade and jet engine.

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"Interesting combination - cheap kitchen tap, machine gun, grenade and jet engine."

MacGuyver will be proud!

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MacGyver's version would actually work!

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The ones that got me in Alien were the use of bread baskets hanging on the wall of the ventilation shaft - the part where Tom Skerritt's shuffling down the shaft with the flamethrower, and the cone cages/magnet assembly of loudspeaker driver units bolted on the walls in the med room (where John Hurt ends up after getting a facial from a hugger).

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Not to mention Luke's being a battery pack for a camera flash with the LED display from a pocket calculator stuck on the side. Of course he lost it at the end of TESB when daddy cut his hand off with it still in his grip, so he had to make a new one in time for ROTJ. Yet it turns up again in TFA. You need to be a real camera flash geet to notice stuff like this, of course.

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Star Wars’ early use of stereo sound,

Stereo is mostly irrelevant to effects, really and was developed in 1930s (Alan Blumlien in EMI). BBC was using stereo on radio earlier than starwars and Stereo radio development (late 1950s, though BBC roll out was much later) was long after Stereo records were 1st produced..

However Lucas did make use of the effects channel, the .1 of 5.1, Surround sound though also predates Starwars.

Many Lucas films have well done 5.1 sound tracks.

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Nope, not gonna do it

I refuse to read anything Star Wars from this point on, just in case I do decide I want to see it after all.

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Re: Nope, not gonna do it

Too late. If you've ever seen any Disney or Pixar movies, EVER, you've already seen the new Star Wars.

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Re: Nope, not gonna do it

Its an Abrams film so it will have lens flare. The millenium falcon travelled in time where ouke killed vader and the emperor before turning sith lord (Kylo Ren). Leia wasnt his sister in that one so they had kids.

R2D2 made the deathstar pregnant on episode 4 when he 'inserted' his probe. BB8 was ejected just before it blew up.

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The only good Star Wars film are the ones with

Chewie in them. I was in the same Motorcycle Club as Peter Mayhew who played Chewie back around the same time as the first one was released.

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Re: The only good Star Wars film are the ones with

The only good Star Wars films are the Despecialized (sic) editions, just see QXifjbxZDAM on YouTube for exactly how much effort fans are prepared to put in...

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not the only ones..

For instance, the bobs and bits on the classic Cylon fighters were from a plastic model tank kit ( one of Revell's Tigers, if I remember correctly) up to and including the tracks, wheels and ... the shovel... ;)

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Re: not the only ones..

If we're wandering down that track, where would Dr Who, Blake's 7 etc., have been without Radiospares?

Mines the brown lab coat with a pocket full of volume control knobs.

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Re: not the only ones..

As Avon said, "Look at that instrumentation!"

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Re: not the only ones..

Also part of a Flak 88 carriage on the Cylon Raider at the back between the exhausts.

The MPC plastic model of Millennium Falcon is covered in parts of other plastic kits, Jagdpanther, lots of aircraft undercarriage. But crudely compared to the studio model.

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Scratch any of that involving ep1-3. The original trilogy certainly did all that the article says; but note that the article hardly mentions ep1-3. Not really surprising, considering that it commits all the sins which George Lucas apparently didn't want in his originals.

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Old car parts too

First time I saw the phantom menace, I noticed the switches that Anakin keeps toggling to relight his engines during the podrace were the light control from a Mk1 FIAT UNO...Always a danger where parts are re-used for their original function.

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Re: Old car parts too

Any fule kno that all this took place a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away:

the real question is how Fiat got hold of said switches...

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Up-cycling Jet engine components!

Such a great idea - using old engineered components and re-purposing. I can totally see how that adds so much to the atmosphere in Star Wars. Amazes me that lower-budget productions (I'm looking at you, SyFy channel) don't do the same...

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Congratulations on mentioning the sound design.

I channel-hopped to a film the other day (ah yes, the 70s King Kong film), where the goodie walks across a big tree trunk that's been laid over a ravine. The sound effects of his footsteps were of a man in a very echoey room, walking across a polished floor. I presume they were on a budget and got rushed. I found it strangely jarring.

Not that Star Wars exactly had much of a budget. But the sound was consistently excellent. And iconic. I also remember really enjoying the nice sounds, even more than the visuals, when playing Tie Fighter, and whichever the FPS game was in the late 90s.

In general the sets were also amazing. Particularly as it wasn't a big budget production. Although I'd quibble with the realism thing on one major point. Space is dangerous, and I presume they're using artificial gravity - but surely the designs should be a bit more fail-safe. So maybe smaller rooms. Although at least in the Star Wars universe they've managed to invent the humble seat belt, something that seems to have been lost in the intervening time between now and Starfleet getting going. Is it because they don't want the Klingons to call them sissies?

Also, why do people insist on designing their space stations with lethal multiple-storey drops scattered about all over the place. And very few guard rails. No high-vis marking on the edges of steps (or lethal 15 storey drops). I guess Vader got annoyed with all the Health & Safety types - I can't imagine anyone long survivng the utterance of, "Lord Vader, you have failed your compliance testing"...

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Also, why do people insist on designing their space stations with lethal multiple-storey drops scattered about all over the place. And very few guard rails.

It's been noticed.

Vic.

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There is only one explanation: Star Wars predates OSHA

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The guns

Imperial Stormtroopers are mostly armed with Lewis guns, MG 42's [no, MG 34's, sorry] and Sterling submachine guns.

Han Solo carries a broomhandle Mauser.

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