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Doctor Who's The Girl Who Died ships in nasty Vikings floating atop a time-bending tidal wave

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My favourite

food scoffing nonsense to watch on TV while eating.

Enuff said

still waiting for the OMG moment though..... 7/10

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In the episode preview for next week... Was that Maisie Williams in a highwaymans mask?

I need to check IMDB on this.

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She's listed in IMDB for "The Woman Who Lived" - seems highly likely then...

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"Was that Maisie Williams in a highwaymans mask?"

Seriously? Of course it was.

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Viking electric eels ?

I enjoyed the episode but where did vikings get so many electric eels ?

As I recall they are a South American freshwater species ?

I know the vikings went to North America but this is the first I've heard of their setting up a trade in South American electric eels.

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Re: Viking electric eels ?

The eels bothered you but the horned helmets didn't?

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Re: Viking electric eels ?

Yes. It was annoying that Dr Who stuck with the historically inaccurate cultural stereotype of the viking horned helmets but they're hardly the first show to do so and the viking's headgear was pretty much irrelevant as far as the plot was concerned. However the electric eels were a crucial part of the plot without them there was no electricity to win the Doctor's battle with the Mire.

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Re: Viking electric eels ?

More to the point, why were the eels in barrels and not hovercraft?

Seriously, if you're going to nitpick, at least go for something historically verifiable!

And voltage, current, ability to make so much wire in a short space of time, shorting, earthing, not to mention the complete disregard for proper Part P certification for the setup which didn't even have a fusebox! It's a disgrace and as soon as the regulations are made in a couple of thousand years time I will be the first to raise the complaint.

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Re: Viking electric eels ?

/mutters about corn not having made it to Europe when the Vikings where doing their thing either

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ability to make so much wire in a short space of time

The wire was stripped from the spacesuit. I expect it fed power to the heating elements, so there would be a lot of it in a mesh throughout the suit's cloth.

But, yeah, eels. And electromagnetic anvils capable of dehelmeting armour. Hmm.

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...corn

Corn has meant cereals (wheat, oats, barley) long before people travelled to the Americas and found out about corn-on-the-cob/Indian Corn/maize.

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Re: Viking electric eels ?

The eels bothered you but the horned helmets didn't?

Or that they identified themselves as Vikings?

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> The wire was stripped from the spacesuit.

D'oh! Yes, attention span of a newt, the Fail Icon is all mine...

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"Or that they identified themselves as Vikings?"

Tardis translation matrix, translated it to what they thought they should hear :-D

But the helmets bothered me as well, although I did not realise electric eels were not native to Europe!

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Re: Viking electric eels ?

Artistic license, they probably felt eels worked better than electric rays which would have been both local and probably more powerful.

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Re: Viking electric eels ?

Just wondering...... did they specify it was definitely Earth? Maybe there's another planet that had its own Vikings that actually had horned helmets and electric eels available :)

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And they dont flash when they activate their electric fields either!

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Re: Viking electric eels ?

What bothered me most was that they all spoke English.

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Headmaster

SEGIRÐU:AFTUR

VIÐ:KLÆÐAST:HORN:EKKI

he etched in stone, wearily.

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> VIÐ:KLÆÐAST:HORN:EKKI

Having trouble with my translation here, this appears to be something along the lines of "again, me so not horny"?

Or possibly "Something something oranges something" which is normally a fairly good backstop when stuck though in this context I'd probably question the 'oranges' bit. Noting also that so far at least two people are pretending to be less ignorant than wot I is.

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Re: SEGIRÐU:AFTUR

I took it to mean more like "We should not be returning to wearing horns" but what do I know? :P

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Re: SEGIRÐU:AFTUR

VIÐ:KLÆÐAST:HORN:EKKI

A frog... in which bidet?

Oh... sorry, wrong show.

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It clearly translates to :

My helmet is full of hovercraft..no wait..eels..yukk!

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Re: SEGIRÐU:AFTUR

for clarification, for the less norse/icelandic inclined as i:

SAY-THOU:AGAIN

WE:WEAREST:HORNS:NOT

tho i was simplifying from full icelandic grammar to make it more "runey" [not that one]

[boring factoid addendum: i started learning icelandic years ago after a discussion with my then girlfriend about "text speak" - i said how i didn't mind "tho" - and when you look at the etymology, with good cause, old english used "þo" ... i began to learn old english - as i get obsessed by trains of thought like that, but then decided icelandic (who use "þó" for though) was a more useful direction since were i live we have a lot of viking links, like our parliament "thing" ]

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Re: SEGIRÐU:AFTUR

Yay, another nerd :) I study Old English and use an Icelandic keyboard layout. It is very convenient!

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Re: SEGIRÐU:AFTUR

Þæt béo betst cægbord! ..as they say in Beowolf ;)

Sæll Bjarnfrið!

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Ic þyncþ niht "cægbord" in Beowulf wæs :D (He was full touchscreen by then)

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'Twas good

Bring on the denouement!

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Was I the only one...

... who cheered when the Sonic Sunglasses were snapped in half?

And then booed when it turns out they still bloody worked?!

Still, apart from that (and the stupid horned helmets) it wasn't a bad episode :-/

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Re: Was I the only one...

And from the clip of next week's episode, he's been back to SpecSavers and got himself a new pair, or repaired the old ones.

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No, you weren't. It confused the hell out of SWMBO.

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Re: Was I the only one...

>... who cheered when the Sonic Sunglasses were snapped in half?

> And then booed when it turns out they still bloody worked?!

> Still, apart from that (and the stupid horned helmets) it wasn't a bad episode :-/

Hah - they missed an opportunity with the sunglasses: after the Doctor had wittered on about them being 6m years more advanced (or whatever it was) the viking should have tied to snap them and found it impossible. Then tried to hack them in half with his sword only to have the sword break!

This one was a kid's entertainment episode - particularly with the electric eels and magnetically levitating anvils[1] - so unbreakable sunglasses would fit right in.

[1] Hands-up who thought they were going to drop on the now helmet-less aliens? Yep me too.

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I think Specsavers do a two pairs for the price of one offer. Fact. (Probably.)

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Vikings did not wear winged helmets.

The original premise of Dr Who was to teach children about history in an entertaining way.

I think, as usual, that the BBC has failed to fulfil its remit.

Dr Who is dire, vacuuous soap opera for tweens.

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The production team have already said they knew that, but it was a conscious choice as elements of the audience would expect it.

As to teaching history accurately, the debate about the last true historical in Doctor Who seems to settle around they gave up in the first few years.

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And yet you watched it. Or worse you read the El Reg piece and felt obliged to comment even though you hadn't seen it.

Either way it's a bit of a Fail isn't it?

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Vikings did not wear winged helmets.

The original premise of Dr Who was to teach children about history in an entertaining way.

I think, as usual, that the BBC has failed to fulfil its remit.

I think - as someone else has pointed out - that they did it because it would be expected. Anyway, kids these days (and I have four of them) learn a heck of a lot of history from the Horrible Histories books and (particularly) the TV shows. My two eldest, who watched Doctor Who last night, were more concerned about the slightly dodgy CGI than the horned or winged helmets which they knew were probably anachronistic but really didn't care about.

Mind you, one of them has transcribed the words to the HH Kings and Queens song and stuck them on the wall of the outside loo so we can all learn something useful while "otherwise engaged".

M.

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Dr Who is dire, vacuuous soap opera for tweens.

Only when the wheelie bins belch.

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> The original premise of Dr Who was to teach children about history in an entertaining way.

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> I think, as usual, that the BBC has failed to fulfil its remit.

You're about 52 years late for that particular whinge, the whole educational bit went out of the window when someone terrorised Carole Ann Ford with a sink plunger and the Daleks turned up.

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Terrible episode

After the last 2 x 2 part'ers, this was a slap in the face for the more serious Who fans amongst us. I am used to the comedic moments/ramblings but they took it to new heights in this episode. Doctor Who is not a fucking comedy (although many will say it is actually but it's not intentional)!

Throwing in the Benny Hill theme whilst threatening to use interstellar social media to bully the aliens with was the last straw.

This has turned into Reddit/Twitter appeasing nonsense where every moment of the show is about rhubarb rubbing showing how 'clever' they can be with plot arcs.

Don't get me wrong. I still watch and enjoy the show when it is written coherently and as a quirky science fiction 'fun' family show. But it really pushes some aspects too far sometimes. Lexx did dark sci-fi comedy better and Red Dwarf just did outright comedy a LOT better. The writers keep switching from sad to humorous with gay abandon barely giving any time to actually allow it to sink in or associate any emotional context to the characters (and with that infernal soundtrack intruding LOUDLY every minute DROWNING out the fast paced dialogue it needed subtitles enabled to understand what the hell was being said).

The show is full of some great idea's ruined by idiotic script writers. I shall still be here for next weeks episode though as I have nothing better to do on a Saturday night.

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Glad somebody else is complaining about the not-quite-background music. Several times I've thought: am I getting older than I think, what did he say there?

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Re: Terrible episode

Absolutely agree with every word.

But maybe we're just not the target audience (any more?) ?

And no-one's even mentioned The A-Team yet....

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Re: Terrible episode - inclined to agree

I stopped watching Dr Who when the infantile idiot took over from David Tennant. I tried this episode on the offchance things had improved, but found it much the same. It seems to have become very American in format - an interesting idea ruined by a puerile, facetious implementation. I will not bother again.

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Re: Terrible episode - inclined to agree

"I stopped watching Dr Who when the infantile idiot took over from David Tennant."

- You missed out then. This particular old fart found him far better than the gurning tennant, an old soul with a young face. Perfect for Who.

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Looks like someone has never seen "The Pirate Planet".

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but no robot parrot?

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I'm guessing I'm the only one who spotted the pocket watch necklace on vicky the viking?

Lots more I could say about this episode however I'm going to leave that as it's a 2000 year old joke.

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New companion ?

I have a strange feeling they're going replace Clara with Ashildr as more "timeless" companion, not sure I'm happy with choice if they are.

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Re: New companion ?

Not likely. Maisey Williams would likely struggle due to her GOT commitments. Unless of course she only really appears in 1 episode of season 6 similarly to season 5.

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