Windows 10 is FORCING ITSELF onto domain happy Windows 7 PCs

Re: A gift horse?

Having fallen on my head recently, I accepted their gift horse over the weekend. When it wouldn't run the only application for which I use a PC ('Reflection X', which connects me to a Unix box), I hit the Revert to Windows 7 button.

When Win 7 finally reappeared, there was a gloating note in the corner saying 'This copy of Windows is not genuine'. Restoring backups didn't work, with the smug message 'Your system files were not altered'

I now have the choice of putting Win 10 back, or forking out for another copy of Win 7, which will probably trash my disk, if past experience is anything to go by.

How do I get Linux...?

Re: Wonder how many bankruptcies will result

I can imagine there are a few people being shouted at in Redmond today...

It might explain why I've been waiting so long for a support call to be returned (thankfully for a less troublesome problem).

Oi, moiety, what are you thinking?

Let some magic cure .exe solve all my problems!

Fuck that.

Why are you recommending a piece of software you have not used and have no idea what it will do?

Fortunately El Reg readers will be intelligent enough to ignore the poor advice you have given, please don't post it anywhere else.

Re: We haff ways of MAKING you inztall!

I'm surprised if this is true. In testing, I actually manually installed the updates associated with the windows 10 update on a domain-joined Windows 7 Professional test machine, and manually ran the compatibility appraiser thing, and could not get the "Get Windows 10" icon to appear, so I thought it was all good. I'll be mightily unhappy if Windows 10 upgrades happen anyway, but no sign of it so far. I only deal with a handful of machines though.

Re: YOU WILL HAVE WINDOWS 10 AND LIKE IT.

You will be assimilated:

Not one of us ?

Re: wow

but on the plus side, moving to WSUS is generally a good idea.

Re: wow

So they finally make a

somethign that people pretty much like, ending the sh~tstorm that was Windows 8/8a, and then they put the shotgun firmly against their other foot and pull the trigger.

They really do need a Devil's Advocate Department that asks "what could go wrong here?" in every scenario and have the power to be heard.

Re: also autoticking the upgrade button in Win Update

"Caught the sneak bastards autoselecting 'upgrade to Win10' in the optional updates section of Win Update on both my PCs."

That means some of my friends are going to end up with it installed. As removing the KBs was too tricky for ordinary users I just told them not to click on the W10 update icon. I can only hope there is a prompt that makes it clear that W10 is going to install - and that they decline it. If a machine has to come back to be cleaned up then that will cost me £££s as they are all a long way away.

Linux Mint is now definitely my next project - while W7 keeps my current applications going.

Re: also autoticking the upgrade button in Win Update

Yes, but KB3035583 comes back again.

And again.

And again.

Re: also autoticking the upgrade button in Win Update

You wished. This update keeps un-hiding itself (and so does Silverlight). It's this important (for MS).

Re: You will be assimilated into windows 10!

This Dilbert comic - from January 1997! - seems highly appropriate here:

http://dilbert.com/strip/1997-01-15

I wonder whether having current "Software Assurance" on the licence plays a part.

(I've noted with one client that all their systems are now running Office 2013, even though we install 2010 on all the laptops...)

Re: blaming slack admins for this one

Enjoy your pint. I'll be having some Harvey's Best later on.

However, have you given any thought (from your kinda smug POV) about all the small businesses out there that can't afford a proper admin let anone someone to run WSUS?

I full expect that some of these may well go to the wall because this update has stopped essential applications from running after the upgrade. What do they do then eh?

One commentator here said 'it will only get worse' a few days ago. I'm pleasantly surprised that the lawsuits (especially in the US) aren't already heading in the direction of MS.

Pass the popcorn please.

Re: blaming slack admins for this one

Right now I've got a WSUS server running in a small business just to save on the crap bandwidth coming in. I haven't got the time to actually sit there running it and checking every update right now as it's not my primary job. WSUS is set to pretty much approve every security update and just get on with it as a result. So I totally agree with the comment made about small businesses not being able to afford the sysadmin to sit there and run it because for most of the real world that's what it's like.

Re: blaming slack admins for this one

ahhh but your forgetting how WSUS works with win7 clients. Its ok if your clients are LAN based, BUT if you have a large laptop fleet they will (when not on your LAN) try and get to your WSUS server, fail and then they will then try microsoft's windows update site where they will happily find the win10 download! There isn't a way to configure the behaviour of windows update to NOT look to Microsoft when not on the corporate LAN. We have problems with clients going off and downloading IE11 when some of our software will only work with IE10.

Re: blaming slack admins for this one

>WSUS is free

And you get what you pay for. Reporting is crap, troubleshooting is

a nightmare. I've been trying to get approval for Shavlik for 10 years.

>takes up very little space / resources

Depending on your definition of 'very little'. 46 gig and a dedicated

web server instance here, not huge but I wouldn't call it insubstantial.

>I run WSUS, so I don't have to worry about Win 10 issues

I also run WSUS, and will be paying very close attention to what

my clients are doing.