Meh!
I'm used to new Linux installs wanting to download patches.
This is no different. In fact, it's so un-different I'm not going to bother with it for the foreseeable future.
Microsoft is still trying to crush the remaining bugs in its latest and supposedly greatest operating system. Build 10240, which was released to the Windows Insider program two weeks ago, is widely considered to be the "release to manufacturing" (RTM) build, even though Redmond itself says the RTM concept doesn't apply in its …
Yeah nothing beats an EA game on release day where you end up downloading a patch nearly the size of the whole game to fix only some of the show stoppers. That is if their servers haven't already face planted for the first week. At least someone has set the bar very low for Microsoft.
The people who are getting Windows 10 updates right now are those that signed up to get alpha and beta code via the Windows Insider process.
i.e. they agreed to test potentially buggy software.
We therefore can't draw any conclusions as to what might be released to production Windows 10 systems from what such early test users see.
>We therefore can't draw any conclusions as to what might be released to production Windows 10 systems from what such early test users see.
How many days until release? Maybe it will be fine is probably what a lot of middle managers are saying in Redmond right now. Still this whole thing reeks of apeing Apple (the bad parts like pushing out service packs pretending to be new half ass OS releases every year) and doing that originally is a lot of what caused the whole Vista fiasco (lets go all bloaty like Mac OS at the time).
>We therefore can't draw any conclusions as to what might be released to production Windows 10 systems from what such early test users see.
We can, because MS have to have released software to "the channel", so that they can actually sell Win 10 systems on the day. So we can be confident that Build 10240 is apart from some cosmetic version number changes, the "Release to Manufacturing" version of Win10.
What is open to question is what will be in the first "Release to Market" update. Given the number of major bugs discovered and the amount of dev work reportedly still in progress, I would not be surprised to find that the first update is a 3.5GB image download ie. a completely new build, that completely replaces Build 10240...
Are you taking the piss... this is a supposedly RTM version and at this point in the release schedule, testers should not be finding these kind of bugs in something that will be released on a wide scale to the general public. It's not the testing that is the problem, it's what they are finding two days before general release that's the problem.
Seems Microsoft with its new CEO has learnt nothing. The culture of send it out bugs and all still remains. Some government or big company should sue Microsoft for supplying faulty goods/services. Cotowing to "Software Licenses" needs to end especially with OSs. They need to be challenged.
I'm surprised know one is getting excited over SP1 yet.
>The culture of send it out bugs and all still remains
I am hardly some MS fanboi (check my post history lol) but they do to tend to spend more on software Q&A than probably anyone else. They unlike Apple have to support a ton more different combinations of hardware and software and in the last half decade or so have done a better job. I have definitely seen more of Mac OS shitting itself on my home computer than I have seen blue screens on my Win7 computers at work (but have yet to make FreeBSD shit the bed on my Mac which is why its my daily driver). That said that was Win7. Probably premature to defend Win10 as it may end up being a tire fire on release.
I don't know. Apple is a much more mature unix. The Linux world has pretty much been sitting on it's ass. RPM vs. installing on a Mac is a huge difference. Running Linux means "being" a developer. I've finally been impressed with Mac enough to buy one. If Apple sold it's OS to the masses with a bundled motherboard or some other scheme. They just might kick windows in the nuts pretty hard.
>Apple is a much more mature unix
Yes the POSIX parts are great what tends to be the problem is Apple's non POSIX eye candy bloat.
>The Linux world has pretty much been sitting on it's ass.
If anything Red Hat with the cataclysmic systemd changes that are rapidly changing everything (I wish they were sitting on their ass) is turning Linux into Windows lite. Now the desktop/laptop seems to be all that matters in that ecosystem.
>RPM vs. installing on a Mac is a huge difference.
RPM eh? That's the whole Linux world eh? You haven't looked in 10 years have you? That said not only Linux (and *BSD) but even Windows will support your Mac hardware with security updates longer than Apple will.
If you have the following updates installed:
KB 3035583
KB 2952664
KB 3065987
Uninstall them and "Get Windows 10" goes away. If you want it later - reinstall those updates. I've followed that exact procedure on 2 test PCs.
Unfortunately the updates will try and reinstall as they themselves get updated - best you can do is hide them and be wary. That's assuming that you don't allow Windows to automatically download / install updates - I never have!
Not sure "Microsoft is delivering a faulty new OS" still qualifies as news these days. It seems that this kind of launches have become the industry standard - either were speaking OS, games, consoles etc. I guess the economic forces at work say that it's more efficient to work out bugs as you also record sales, rather than spend millions on closed testing environments.
I think you missed the point of the rolling update schedule. That just means that they're going to issue consumer patches on any damn day of the month they please; instead of waiting till the second Tuesday of each month. I haven't seen anything that said there wouldn't be service packs, or at least "patch rollups."
The point of waiting for SP1 (regardless of what it's called) is that most of the major bugs have been found and worked out (or at least around) by that time.
Same here.
I have a Laptop that will act as the sacrificial lamb guinea pig, for initial testing, see if it breaks access to my network shares (BSD box), or anything else first.
My main PC, a desktop (i7 gaming rig, Steam etc), will remain on Win 7 64 bit for the time being, at least until I've seen a few 'all clear' type forum and blog posts etc.
If I had an expendable Win7 or Win8.1 license I'd give it a whirl - the bugs so far haven't caused me too much pain.
But I won't upgrade any machine that I rely on for general purpose stuff until it becomes clear how many of the privacy-invading / telemetry sending features of the preview have been turned off or made deselectable (preferably by default) in the commercial release.
And also how useful it is when it has never been connected to a Microsoft Account.