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Ashley Madison, a popular website for married people wishing to cheat on their other halves, has been hacked with obviously serious implications for those whose details it held. Previously unknown hacking group The Impact Team posted online caches of personal data stolen from the website, whose motto is "Life is short. Have an …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I crying because I'm laughing so much.

    Time to get qualified as a divorce lawyer and cash in on the glut.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      I feel sorry for your down-voters.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "I crying because I'm laughing so much"

      Laugh all you like, I just hope you have checked if your missus is on there first !

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        --> "I crying because I'm laughing so much"

        --> Laugh all you like, I just hope you have checked if your missus is on there first !

        I did, she isn't.... but yours was :)

        1. Fibbles
          Trollface

          As was your mother.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          "I did, she isn't.... but yours was :)"

          Oh well, it's only fair, she was bound to get me back for sleeping with your daughter.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Sadly no daughters but I have pet dog if you want :)

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        @AC

        Laugh all you like, I just hope you have checked if your missus is on there first !

        If only, I've had her on ebay for 6 months but no takers yet.

        Ta dum

    3. Greg J Preece

      This is the part I'm laughing my ass off at:

      Biderman told investigative reporter Brian Krebs that ALM was "working diligently and feverishly" to get the leaked data pulled offline.

      You want to remove information from the Internet. Good luck with that!

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      You think I used my real names?

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Get ready to duck

      You'd stop finding it funny when you find your own name on there. Of course you might never have been a customer, but why should that matter. It would be trivial to add random or even targeted victims into the data. If they are mixing things in with the results of other data thefts they could easily have all the amo they need to take you down, innocent or not. When you've lost your home, you've lost your job, you've been banned from seeing your kids again, your parents have disowned you and your friends have all take your spouses side. Then see whether you still find things so amusing.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Get ready to duck

        "You'd stop finding it funny when you find your own name on there."

        With my credit card information and street address? Yea, right.

        You don't have to invent personal details when there's a boatload of them already there.

        Also: Who's stupid enough to sign to a _cheating site_ with their real name and credit card information?

        Basically telling anyone in internet that 'heyhoo, I'm looking someone to cheat my spouse with! (and paying monthly fee for that privilege too)'

        With real name and address .... I can't really comprehend that, un-fucking-believable.

        How cheating the cheaters is not funny, tell us?

        Me being among them or not is irrelevant, it's always funny.

        1. BongoJoe

          Re: Get ready to duck

          I wonder how many people run into their own spouses on that site?

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Get ready to duck

          "You'd stop finding it funny when you find your own name on there."

          With my credit card information and street address? Yea, right.

          As the post said, randomly added victims. You might not shop at findmeafb.com but you have shopped at imagood2shoes.com which has also been hacked, so just for a laugh lets add the goody2shoes in with the love rats. Lets see how many pay up when the shake down starts, sod it, we'll probably get a higher hit rate from goody2shoes.

          Or targeted, you once had dealings with save/cullthebadger.com or the wrongchurch.com or any other organisation which some loony somewhere has decided to hate. They've been hacked, it's all the rage these days. So these scum have gotten your details from somewhere. My adding your not so innocent, in their eyes, names in with the poor frustrated customers of findmeafb they've got you well into the prove your innocent realm. And some shit never washes off.

          How cheating the cheaters is not funny, tell us?

          Because many more innocent people will get hurt than guilty ones.

          1. Nigel 11

            Re: Get ready to duck

            At least in the UK, marital infidelity is not a crime, and is very rarely grounds for being dismissed by an employer. Your main worry is that your spouse might refuse to believe your denials. That aside, being on that list should merely be an embarassment. Also our libel laws are the strictest in the world. Anyone publishing the allegation that you were a signed-up cheater when you weren't, could be in expensive trouble.

            (It occurs to me that getting yourself hacked into that list might be a route to simultaneous divorce and profit for you and your spouse alike ...)

    6. goldcd

      Surely that must be the most valuable

      spam list ever released to lawyers.

    7. Ian 55

      Wrong sort of lawyer

      AM engaged in such interesting practices as sending members who had yet to pay 'messages' from automated bots in the hope that they would pay to read them and charging people who wanted to delete - as opposed to suspend - their account.

      Now, if you'd paid to delete your details and they turned up in the leak from this hack, I'd expect you'd be reaching for a lawyer, but not a divorce one.

      1. Anonymous C0ward
        Devil

        Re: Wrong sort of lawyer

        Because they know they're dodgy. Speaks volumes about what sort of people we're dealing with here, and I don't mean the h^Hcrackers.

  2. YetAnotherLocksmith Silver badge

    LOL

    Cross-referencing with OPM will indeed be interesting.

    Had to laugh at "Whatever the motives", right after the section with the hacker's demands.

    1. Fibbles
      Black Helicopters

      Re: LOL

      To be fair, this site should be a prime target for the Chinese. Want to coerce a US official? Congrats, you now have leverage.

      If I were a nation-state pulling off this sort of thing I'd try to mask my tracks by making it look like a hacktivist script kiddie attack.

      Does anyone else hear that noise overhead?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: LOL

      The web site was hacked by virgins with rage

  3. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Coat

    "Any and all parties responsible for this act of cyber-terrorism will be held responsible"

    Unless they're from North Korea !

    Just ask Sony !

    <cough>

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "Any and all parties responsible for this act of cyber-terrorism will be held responsible"

      Some other news sites are reporting that it could be an inside job.

      I think this story is going to be the gift that keeps on giving.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "Any and all parties responsible for this act of cyber-terrorism will be held responsible"

      Don't know why anyone needs to be scared. Judging by some of their ill-fated missile tests they couldn't nuke their way out of a paper bag.

  4. P. Lee

    >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

    No, the conducting of dishonest relationships and the breaking of legal contracts is fodder for blackmail.

    The data is just additional evidence of it.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

      Well, no.

      My masturbation practices performed in the privacy of my own home aren't fodder for blackmail.

      A video of myself performing said practices could very easily be used as fodder for blackmail.

      There, see? Once you substitte the emotionally charged adultery aspect of this (which seems to upset you a lot), it becomes much clearer.

      You're welcome.

      1. Khaptain Silver badge

        Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

        "My masturbation practices performed in the privacy of my own home aren't fodder for blackmail."

        That depends if you publically announce said practices and also who your employer is.... considering that you might be a priest, doctor or a primary school teacher....

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

          If I publically stated that I am was into weird masturbatyion practices that wasn't tolerated by my profession or state of citizenship, then I could arguably get into a lot of trouble.

          I could _not_ however be blackmailed - what would they threaten me with? repeating what I have already publically stated?

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

            "I could _not_ however be blackmailed - what would they threaten me with? repeating what I have already publically stated?"

            Mass Media version ( exagerated but entirely feasible):

            AC has been officially recognized as the major public masturbator to all things underaged. ( Oops they modifed the truth) ... that you even go so far as to admit it publically on the Ashley Madison website ( now this would be the truth in part).

            AC who worked for Mass Corporation Company ( who did not want to comment) in Bristol and who lives nearby actively pursues his masturbation activity behind closed curtains at his home in Unfortunate Crescent...

            His neighbours stated that they often hear strange noises and coming and going at all hours of the day/night.. One of his old school friends stated that AC was always "touching" his pieces in the showers but as far as he knew was not directly invloved in sexual practices with any of his classmates..

          2. John Tserkezis

            Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

            "I could _not_ however be blackmailed - what would they threaten me with?"

            You don't get how the internet works, do you?

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Big Brother

              Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

              The problem here is that even if the crackers drop the whole database in pastebin (pick an alternative), how many people are going to check every name they know. Then there's the problem of name collision. I know for a fact that there are 180 +/- people in my state (California) that share the same name (first, middle initial, last, just as I use them). Then there's name collision nationwide where there are multiple people with exactly the same name (first, middle, last). That doesn't even consider the idiots that keep signing up for things and using my e-mail address which dates back to the very beginning of GMail. Oh yeah, my identity has also been stolen at least once. That guy (?) is in New Mexico the last time I nailed him down.

              Since my last name is pretty unusual, especially in combination with first and middle, ya'd think that this isn't the best way to identify if anyone you know is cheating. Absolutely know that is.

              1. Jamie Jones Silver badge
                Coat

                Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

                " Since my last name is pretty unusual

                Yep. The only other people I've heard of with your surname are those guys who used to be the band behind Cliff Richard...

                1. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

                  Jack's first name is actually Hank.

              2. x 7

                Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

                your name is Jack Zelazny and I claim my $69,000 blackmail or else I'll tell everyone or....ooooops..

        2. Nigel 11

          Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

          "My masturbation practices performed in the privacy of my own home aren't fodder for blackmail."

          Priest: embarassing. (Is it less or more of a sin than actual sex)?

          Doctor: recommended by recent medical advice discussed here in the Reg. Reduces your likelyhood of getting prostate cancer, if you're not in a relationship.

          School teacher: that's one heck of a leap isn't it? I guess there are places in the USA it could be a problem.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

            Priest : So the guy wearing a frock, preaching about the rights and wrongs of the world with his dick in one hand and the bible in the other is not likely to be seen as a very credible, leader of the cock. flock...

            Doctor : Let's just hope that he wasn't giving himself a quick hand job before you walk into his office for a tonsil examination. It wont be his vinyl gloves that are giving of that cheesy smell.

            School teacher: One of your kids comes home from school and says, "guess what Mr Bates showed us today".

            It's all a question of perspective.

    2. Just.Aguy

      Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

      Definitely for evidence in a divorce trial as well.

      1. Keith Glass

        Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

        Reports are, that divorce lawyers are ALREADY salivating over the possibilities. They might TRY the "fruit of the poison tree" doctrine to make the hacked evidence inadmissible, but with the data out there, other evidence could be easily found by investigation.

        1. Mark 85
          Coat

          Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

          Aha.... the American Bar Association is involved in this attack!!!!!!

          Mine's the one with the processes that need to be served. Might as well make a few bucks on the side...

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: >The leaked data could become fodder for extortion or blackmail,

      "No, the conducting of dishonest relationships and the breaking of legal contracts is fodder for blackmail."

      The hackers should be careful who they blackmail. 99.99% of people would pay up or go to the police. 0.01% would put a contract out on the hacker. I doubt everyone on this site are Mr/Mrs Nice Guy just looking for a bit of fun, there's probably some serious psychos on there too as you get on every private site. Mess with their private data at your peril.

  5. FuzzyTheBear

    Using words too lightly

    This is not terrorism .. this is criminality period. Calling anything and everything terrorism is simply removing any true significance to the word. And btw these people were adults , they know cheating is wrong they knew they could get caught so if they get caught .. that's their personal problem. I got no pity for self inflicted wounds.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Using words too lightly

      And the cheated on husbands/wives/partners who now get to face a world in which all their colleagues and family know that their partner cheated on them?

      How about those children who now get to be taunted in school of how their mom fucks around?

      Will you rubb your thighs in quiet anticipation of their misery as well?

      There will be other victims besides these "adults with self inflicted wounds".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Using words too lightly

        If I read this correctly you tell us that no, we may not tell the cheated spouse that the other spouse is cheating because "other victims" will get hurt, right?

        "Everything under carpet and it will be allright for ever"- ideology which leads just even worse suffering as the cheating will go on years and years. A betrayal too: You know the spouse is cheating but you don't tell it to the other spouse because the shiny image must be preserved at any cost.

        And the cost is always higher than cost of telling.

        Really, really bad ideology which transforms short term hurt to long term suffering.

      2. P. Lee

        Re: Using words too lightly

        >And the cheated on husbands/wives/partners who now get to face a world in which all their colleagues and family know that their partner cheated on them?

        Do you really think most affairs manage to stay hidden? Of course a massive amount of damage is done by cheaters, but the damage is hardly inflicted by a website hack. If you need a website to have an affair, that isn't an affair, that's "Adult Friend-Finder" / "Moms need to F*#$%^ too!" trying to be up-market. I didn't think the fancy name and pretty graphics fooled anyone.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Using words too lightly

      I bet some of the users of the service are quite terrified, though.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Using words too lightly

      Terrorism - the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce

      Seems a reasonable use of the word to me.

      1. John H Woods Silver badge

        Re: Using words too lightly

        "Terrorism - the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce" -- Chris W

        That's a stupid definition, where did you get it from? It would make a mugger a terrorist.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          There is no non-stupid definition of "terrorism"

          So I, personally, encourage people to use the word as widely and as ridiculously as possible, in the hope that, eventually, politicians will stop using it as part of their rhetoric for justifying crimes.

          1. Nigel 11

            Re: There is no non-stupid definition of "terrorism"

            I'd call advocating, threatening or committing crimes against humanity a completely non-stupid definition. Many of the other (wider) definitions are also not stupid, although failing to bear in mind that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom-fighter certainly *is* stupid.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Using words too lightly

          it also fits the USA

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