back to article Oil & gas? Pah. We’ve got a MASSIVE 3D printer, beams Dubai

Dubai has announced it will erect "the world’s first fully functional 3D printed building", hoping to establish the United Arab Emirates "as the global centre of technology in architecture, construction and design". The "approximately 2,000 square feet" structure "will be will be printed layer-by-layer using a 20-foot tall 3D …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Alien

    WinSun apparently keeps its tech tightly under wraps.

    That will be a box containing 2,000 coolies armed with tubes of araldite then.

    Either that or the box contains nothing we can understand and eventually it will print nothing but a nose.

  2. jake Silver badge

    During the meanwhile ...

    Humans have been 3D printing buildings for thousands of years.

    See Adobe[0][1]. The pixels are largish, but the resulting product is quite usable, and long-lasting as long as you can keep the rain off.

    [0] No, not that Adobe.

    [1] Note that the word itself is Arabic/Coptic/Egyptian in origin.

    1. psychonaut

      Re: During the meanwhile ...

      the problem with adobe houses are legion:

      1) every few weeks a team of specialists has to come round to patch up the holes in the original building

      2) every now and again your house refuses to let you in due to clouds

      1. TRT Silver badge

        Re: During the meanwhile ...

        And since July last year, you can only rent them.

  3. frank ly

    You Tube: printed buildings

    Lots of people are doing it, it seems.

  4. Ralph the Wonder Llama
    Meh

    Hmm

    It seems the "future" looks an awful - and I use the word advisedly - lot like 1973.

  5. Terry 6 Silver badge

    Labour costs? In Dubai!

    What labour costs?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7985361.stm

    None had been paid the money they were promised by the recruitment agencies, and many said they couldn't afford to eat properly, living on a diet of potatoes, lentils and bread. Average salaries are often no more than £120 a month. This for a six-day week, often working up to 12-hour shifts. One company paid approximately 30p an hour for overtime.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    printed layer-by-layer ... then put together at a site

    So they are printing *components* of a building, not an actual building. They could be printing bricks.

    1. JeffyPoooh
      Pint

      Re: printed layer-by-layer ... then put together at a site

      The adjective "3D-Printed" is usually preceding a noun that represents something that clearly wasn't actually 3D-Printed.

      It's the idiotic B.S. hype of the entire decade.

  7. Pallas Athena

    First??

    Can someone explain to me how Dubai could print "the world’s first fully functional 3D printed building" if tens of buildings around the world are printed or are printing right now? Unless they pretend the world ends at their borders, of course.

    1. Lester Haines (Written by Reg staff) Gold badge

      Re: First??

      I think they're claiming it on the grounds that everything in the building is 3D printed as well. Whether that includes the toilet paper remains to be seen.

      1. JeffyPoooh
        Pint

        Re: First??

        "... that everything in the building is 3D printed as well."

        You're not serious, I hope.

        The media, including the old El Reg, is constantly guilty of using the noun for the 'next higher assembly' (or many levels up) after the adjective '3D printed'.

        Even the BBC just the other day referred to a "3D printed car", when it was just some brackets 'nodes' holding together the tubing that were reportedly 3D printed.

        You need to do better.

        Quote the PR Flak misusing the language, and then do your job, mock them.

        Thank you. Cheers.

      2. ravenviz Silver badge
        Go

        Re: First??

        So then they will also install a 3D printed 3D printer into the 3D printed building.

        1. JeffyPoooh
          Pint

          Re: First??

          "... a 3D printed 3D printer..."

          I actually had this debate with some commentard. He claimed that he 'did' in fact have a '3D printed' 3D printer.

          Further discussion revealed the duh-obvious truth. The gadget had some plastic bits that were 3D printed at about 100 times the price of injection molding. The rest of the 3D printer kit (99.9%) was a bunch of metal and electronics ordered off ebay for about $1000.

          Pure hype that is demonstrably damaging weak minds. Read some of the breathless commentards with their naive wishful beliefs that "3D Printing will replace all traditional manufacturing in 'n' years"; where 'n' is often a single digit number of years.

          The media needs to mock such hype.

          1. Eddy Ito

            Re: First??

            Looking at the WinSun links it appears to be a concrete extruder similar to the one shown in this TEDx talk. It does sound like they are, at the moment, just making large custom concrete blocks and sticking it all together at the end which is no doubt easier and more practical than dragging a huge precision squirter out to the job site. If they can get it all into an ISO shipping container and it's easily set up/broken down then maybe they'll be able to "print" something. To me it looks a bit like precision shotcrete/gunite.

  8. Naughtyhorse

    Dubai centre of excellence....?

    Orly?

    In my experience it's all euro/us/china design and indian construction.

    kinda hard to see what dubai brings to the party, except cash.

    1. Gordo Rex

      Re: Dubai centre of excellence....?

      kinda hard to see what dubai brings to the party, except how any of this is anything but vaporware without Dubai's cash.

      There, fixed it for you.

      1. Roq D. Kasba

        Re: Dubai centre of excellence....?

        Dubai hasn't really got any money, it's all in Abu Dhabi. Dubai has tourists and depends HUGELY on maintaining a high profile, hence headline-chasing like this.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Dubai centre of excellence....?

      In my experience it's all euro/us/china design and indian construction and Russian Hookers.

      there, fixed that for you.

  9. JeffyPoooh
    Pint

    "3D Printed" is most often obvious nonsense...

    One can almost see how they'd 'print' the walls, one layer upon the next. They might have to slow down and manually insert the lintels over the door and window openings, but one could forgive that minor detail.

    But when they get to the very first ceiling, squirting concrete into empty space in a gravitational field will result in it accelerating down at approximately 9.8m/s^2. Splat. Does the printer emit a space filling material, maybe sand, to fill the voids, so that the next layer of ceiling is supported? So the design has to support 1300 lbs of sand per square foot on each level?

    Also, their printer's nozzle will need to extrude rebar as well as concrete. Especially if it needs to support a floor full of sand. Not to mention conduit for later installing cables and wires. And electrical boxes. Do the printer extrude glass and wood, with precision hinges? Is it a building, or a shell?

    "3D printed" = B.S. hype

    1. Mark 85

      Re: "3D Printed" is most often obvious nonsense...

      As pointed out above by Eddy Ito, this appears to be concrete extruder or a variation. I'll have to re-find a recent article that discussed how "3-D printed buildings" could/would be done. Yeah..there's still scaffolding, supports for a poured roof, etc. But the walls are built layer by layer and end up looking a lot like big version of what current output of the printers using plastic where the layers can actually be seen.

      1. JeffyPoooh
        Pint

        Re: "3D Printed" is most often obvious nonsense...

        @Mark 85...

        This -> REBAR

        It's not a "3D printed" building if the only change is that they've replaced the guy manhandling the concrete pump nozzle with a pair of stepper motors.

        Concrete buildings need REBAR.

        1. Mark 85

          Re: "3D Printed" is most often obvious nonsense...

          Yeah, but.. we're not marketing types. We know this. Sort of amazing how marketing twists the buzzwords, isn't it. Like the auto industry back a few decades touting "space-age materials" when the only place they used things like carbon fiber and titanium were in the trim work.

          1. JeffyPoooh
            Pint

            Re: "3D Printed" is most often obvious nonsense...

            I don't mind the marketing types lying, that's their job. The media, especially the tech media, should be quoting the liars and then mocking them.

            A plastic bit in a thing is not the thing itself.

            The vast majority of "3D printed" things are actually just things with some 3D printed subassemblies.

            Or perhaps an empty shell that still requires the other 80% or more of the usual finishing work to finish it to finally become what it is supposed to be.

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