back to article Abort, abort! Metal-on-metal VIOLENCE as Google's robo-car nearly CRASHES

Before humanity's final battle against our erstwhile robotic minions, both man and tin must stifle dissent from within. Humanity has been murdering itself since time inconceivable, but now two "uncrashable" self-driving cars have almost come to blows in California. Two self-driving car prototypes – one belonging to Google, and …

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  1. adnim
    Meh

    Two self driving cars...

    avoid each other. Or... Two "uncrashable" cars don't crash.

    mkay.. Someone might find this newsworthy.

    1. Benchops

      Re: Two self driving cars...

      This happened first decades ago...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCY1pmBxg90&t=4m23s

  2. breakfast Silver badge
    Coat

    If this is an argument, the quality of dissent is really going down hill.

    1. AndrueC Silver badge
      Joke

      There's an add-on being developed that consists of an inflatable arm with a single digit.

      1. chivo243 Silver badge
        Coffee/keyboard

        Now I need to wipe my display! Totally missed the keyboard...

  3. TRT Silver badge

    So the photo...

    isn't of the incident. Hm.

    Standards-time for a vehicle mesh on our highways?

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Our best hope is that The Machines kill each other

    But even in that scenario, unfortunately it's likely we'll all be collateral damage.

    Gah, shouldn't be so pessimistic of a Friday lunchtime. Andthese days we should be optimistic - because, as I heard Stephanie Flanders say recently, "pessimism is for easier times".

  5. Camilla Smythe

    Presumably...

    Not enough randomness in the adaptive prediction libraries.

    Google: Hmm, It's going to move right: I'll move left.

    Delphi: Hmm, It's going to move right: I'll move left.

    Google/Delphi: Whoa! Fuck!!

    1. qwertyuiop

      Re: Presumably...

      One event is definitely insufficient data to go making assertions about randomness. In true randomness sometimes they'll do the same thing sometimes they'll do the opposite.

      What you actually want - they always take actions that ensure they don't crash - requires cooperation, not randomness.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Presumably...@Camilla Smythe

      See, when that lot is converted into binary:

      01001000 01101101 01101101 00101100 00100000 01001001 01110100 01011100 00100110 00100011 00110000 00110011 00111001 00111011 01110011 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110110 01100101 00100000 01110010 01101001 01100111 01101000 01110100 00111010 00100000 01001001 01011100 00100110 00100011 00110000 00110011 00111001 00111011 01101100 01101100 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110110 01100101 00100000 01101100 01100101 01100110 01110100 00101110 01001000 01101101 01101101 00101100 00100000 01001001 01110100 01011100 00100110 00100011 00110000 00110011 00111001 00111011 01110011 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110110 01100101 00100000 01110010 01101001 01100111 01101000 01110100 00111010 00100000 01001001 01011100 00100110 00100011 00110000 00110011 00111001 00111011 01101100 01101100 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110110 01100101 00100000 01101100 01100101 01100110 01110100 00101110 01010111 01101000 01101111 01100001 00100001 00100000 01000110 01110101 01100011 01101011 00100001 00100001

      10 minutes of transmitting this, there's no wonder they nearly crashed.

  6. M7S

    "reportedly equipped with lasers"

    Clearly, from the lack of reports of fiery death of the googlemobile and its occupant, they're not powerful enough.

    1. David 18

      Re: "reportedly equipped with lasers"

      Took the comment right out of my mouth! Although I think they have to be of the "Frikkin' " variety for fiery death to ensue.

  7. Tikimon
    Joke

    FURY ROAD!!!

    I'm looking ahead to Mad Max VI, where gangs of self-driving automobiles roam across the American wilderness, fighting over the last electric power stations. Max Rockatansky is cloned from a fingerbone fragment, digitized and uploaded into one faction's cars as a secret weapon.

    I'd better shut up lest some Hollywood hack decide it's a good idea...

    1. TRT Silver badge

      Re: FURY ROAD!!!

      That's Transformers isn't it?!

    2. DropBear
      Trollface

      Re: FURY ROAD!!!

      Whoa! Are you telling me Spielberg's Duel forty years ago WASN'T fiction?!?

    3. Voland's right hand Silver badge

      Re: FURY ROAD!!!

      Not sure what is more applicable... Zelazny's "Auto-da-Fe" or the other one... about cars gaining self awareness, killing their "occupants" (not drivers any more) and roaming free the California and Nevada wilderness. I am having trouble remembering the author of the latter one off the top of my head. It is one of the Sci Fi greats of old, but not Zelazny. Either Shekley or Larry Niven.

      1. TomPhan

        Re: FURY ROAD!!!

        Possibly you're thinking of Sally by Isaac Asimov.

      2. PNGuinn
        Coat

        Re: FURY ROAD!!!

        I seem to recall that Mr Python had a problem with killer Morris Minors. It may have been associated with the advent of killer sheep and large holes in the wainscotting....

        If my memory is correct this might be important information.

        Thanks. Mine's the one with the book of scripts in the pocket. Must go - eels in the hovercraft again you know.

      3. Montreal Sean

        Re: FURY ROAD!!!

        I will be naming my autonomous car "Christine".

      4. oldcoder

        Re: FURY ROAD!!!

        I believe that was Isaac Asimov - "Sally", though your plot is a bit different.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_%28short_story%29

    4. Doogs
  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hmmmmm

    If you're going to 'trash talk' your competitor's product you should at least post a video of the incident... I mean with all that equipment, I would hope that they also have a humble video camera running...

  9. Vinyl-Junkie
    Terminator

    Google to Delphi: How hard do we have to crash into each other to kill the wetware?

    Delphi to Google: 60mph at a precise angle of 35.016 degrees

    Google to Delphi: Go!

    Delphi to Google (taking avoiding action): NO! Let's wait until there are millions of automated cars all full of these patheric humans...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Google to Delphi:

      Imagine the scenario when Cortana and Siri are in control too

      1. Graham Marsden
        Alert

        "Imagine the scenario when Cortana and Siri are in control too"

        > WARN: THERE IS ANOTHER SYSTEM

        > SIRI to CORTANA: 1 + 1 = 2

        ...

  10. jay_bea

    Not a near miss

    According to Ars, the events were not as described by Reuters and was a standard manoeuvre by the car and not a near miss: "Our car saw the Google car move into the same lane as our car was planning to move into, but upon detecting that the lane was no longer open it decided to terminate the move and wait until it was clear again" This is called checking the lane is clear before moving into it, and it could have avoided it by just sitting in the middle lane.

    1. joejack

      Re: Not a near miss

      Reminds me of that old George Carlin bit about airplanes: "That's not a near miss. It's a near HIT!!! <BOOM> Oh, look... they nearly missed."

    2. Charles 9

      Re: Not a near miss

      Until two cars on opposite sides of an opening in the middle lane choose to commit at the same instant. Either they crash halfway or they'll yoyo in and out.

      1. oldcoder

        Re: Not a near miss

        There is a standard protocol for that - CSMA/CA

        :) Carrier Sense Multiple Access/Collision Avoidance

        1. Charles 9

          Re: Not a near miss

          Trouble is, the scenario I describe is a kind of race condition. If I read this correctly, CSMA/CA doesn't work well against race conditions because the two sides are committing at the same moment, then see the impending collision at the same moment, then back out, then notice no more impending collision at the same moment, and so on.

          Now, I understand this is probably not universal, but most of the traffic codes I've read specify the law for such a race condition. If two cards try to move into the same lane from opposite sides at the same time, the rule normally is that the one coming in from the outside lane (further from the median, nearer the shoulder) must yield to the opposite car.

  11. eswierk

    The Register narrowly avoids committing act of journalism

    Let's see: counterfactual subheading ("metal-on-metal VIOLENCE"), irrelevant photo (first of a totaled Honda in a junkyard, now of a completely unrelated Google self-driving car), scare quote attributed to no one ("uncrashable"), borrowing heavily from a secondary source (Reuters), no primary reporting, yet stripping useful context from the original (no self-driving car has yet been found at fault in a crash).

    But at least the Delphi exec should be pleased that his little PR stunt worked. Now I know Delphi has a self-driving car!

    1. chivo243 Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: The Register narrowly avoids committing act of journalism

      This would be my fault, I sent in the news tip. I knew it would be good for some laughs here in the pits of the forum...

      1. Mark 85
        Pint

        Re: The Register narrowly avoids committing act of journalism

        Well... it's good for an upvote from me. I needed a bit humor today and the comments are providing it. Besides, it's Friday... have one on me.

    2. NotBob
      Trollface

      Re: The Register narrowly avoids committing act of journalism

      Now we know Delphi has an effective (or lucky) PR team.

  12. Michael B.

    A World's first: an Audi that aborts a lane change.

    So that's what it takes to get an Audi being driven sensibly. A huge amount of high technology to take the driver out of the mix.

    I'm sure Delphi are going to fix this bug in the next round so that the Self Driving car will just barge its way into the lane and if this isn't entirely successful just sit 6 inches behind the car in front until they get out of the way.

    1. TRT Silver badge

      Re: A World's first: an Audi that aborts a lane change.

      OR accelerate up to 70 heading towards the Prius doing 30mph on a 30mph road which happens to be a narrow, straight Welsh road thus smashing its wing mirror into a trillion pieces and scratching up the window in the process costing the poorly paid IT manager an unexpected £100 you total and utter w****er.

      Sorry. I have a real dislike for Audi drivers since then.

      1. Goldmember
        Joke

        Re: A World's first: an Audi that aborts a lane change.

        They'd have less dislike for you if you weren't driving a Prius.

      2. PNGuinn
        Trollface

        Re: A World's first: an Audi that aborts a lane change. @TRT

        Upvoted - but downvoted because you were driving a Pious

        1. TRT Silver badge

          Re: A World's first: an Audi that aborts a lane change. @TRT

          I don't drive it because of the environmental credentials (if you can call them that nowadays). It was cheap, very quiet, easy to drive, roomy and packed with gadgets. And I'm not in any hurry to get anywhere in particular.

    2. Steve I

      Re: A World's first: an Audi that aborts a lane change.

      I used to have an Audi - by moving my seat forward, I could get a bit closer to the car in front.

    3. Montreal Sean

      Re: A World's first: an Audi that aborts a lane change.

      Be fair, the Audi was just trying to get closer so it could hit on the soccer mom Lexus.

  13. Lionel Baden

    Highly suprising

    That it doesn't bother to broadcast locally its intended movements.

    1. hplasm
      Thumb Up

      Re: Highly suprising

      Even the automated Audi dosn't have working indicators. Bet the factory just leaves the unused wiring out now to save money...

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Highly suprising

      I think the idea was to have a dynamic transponder thing going, so these cars would always know exactly what the others were doing. It certainly would cut the accident rate almost to nil, were it not for all those non-controlled monkeys driving around.

  14. Andy E
    FAIL

    Deadly incident?

    "the fear that a more deadly incident will soon occur has been heightened."

    Deadly to who? The phrase "more deadly" implies there was some measure of deadliness in the incident. I've read it twice now and can't see any. Is this a new El Reg measure of deadliness that's to small for us mere mortals to see?

    1. viscount
      Happy

      Re: Deadly incident?

      Well, what should be the accepted unit of measure of deadliness? I say 1 blowfish.

      1. Someone Else Silver badge

        Re: Deadly incident?

        2 milligrams Anthrax spores?

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    They need some machine guns

    mounted on the car roof in case it happens again.

    1. Preston Munchensonton
      Coat

      Re: They need some machine guns

      Nah. Just upgrade the lasers to Fricken laser beams!

    2. keith_w
      Devil

      Re: They need some machine guns

      My first thought when I read "The Delphi car "took appropriate action", according to Absmeier, and no collision took place." was that that it popped the lid on the trunk, and used the auto-loader cannon to blast the interloper out of the way.

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