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Windows 10 will be coughed up by Microsoft on July 29, the company said on Monday morning – and Windows 7 and 8.1 users can reserve their free upgrade right now. Gratis upgrades to Windows 10 are pegged to last for 12 months, as previously announced by Microsoft. That gives you until the end of July 2016 to claim them. Also, …

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  1. CAPS LOCK

    How many of you Windows user will be...

    ... hosting a party?

    1. Someonehasusedthathandle

      Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

      None? We'll be installing it and getting on with our lives, just like when people got/get Lollipop/iOS7

      I'm going to guess you use Linux, switched from Windows and don't see the point in going back, fight the power and all that, unless you want to play anything outside of the 100 or so steam games.

      If not then it must be OSX and you are looking for a invite, since you have to use Windows part of the time to do everything one would expect from an OS (bit like Linux), but I thought you'd be all partied out by the "amazing" announcements Apple have made in the last few years.

      (I'll soon be publishing my new book entitled "How to alienate 90% of people who comment in Windows related threads in one easy post" (working title))

      1. Paul Shirley

        Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

        "We'll be installing it and getting on with our lives, just like when people got/get Lollipop"

        The Lollipop upgrade has seriously borked battery life and UI responsiveness for many. Are you hinting Win10 will be that bad?

      2. kryptylomese

        Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

        Because most businesses need to play the 100 or so games outside of Steam....

        Businesses need reliability, security and performance and exceptional value for money

        You stick with your Toy operating system and I will stick to Linux thank you!

        1. Anonymous Coward
          WTF?

          Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

          And Linux's answer to Lync is?

          1. g e

            Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

            Android has an answer to that and it even works with the PC turned off

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

              "Android has an answer to that and it even works with the PC turned off"

              You presumably mean that Android has a Lync client available. That's hardly an answer...

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

            "And Linux's answer to Lync is?"

            That depends, which version of Linux you use, which kernel, are you using "yumm"or "apt-get", do you have the Gnome libraries or not, which compiler subversion, do you know all of the compiler command lien options by heart, do grep, awk, bash or multiple levels of piping make your sweat or smile....

            Of course it's command line, yes of course you need beard and adhere to Stallmans Chronicles but believe me it really is fast....and is so much better than the Windows/Mac version....It's all about choice, it's free, as in beer, and we already have 5 people in the Github ( if you count my 2 dogs, the neighbour and my unborn child)

            Our distro is amazing......it's far better than Windows, it's called GlyncLinux....and we use a penguin in a Giraffe costume as our mascot... All Linux versions need a mascot, its just so much more coollll...

            At home we call it Gerard the Gyrating Giraffe GlyncLinux... and were currently working on a chewing gum sized bootable "shoe" installation....because you never know when a bootable shoe can come in handy for Glyncing to others.

            1. Joe 48

              Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

              Yes Linux can do anything you want. If it can't someone in sandals will whip up some code to make something that can. Trouble is 'open source' doesn't mean free and for business supportability is just as important as everything else you mentioned.

              I love everything tech. Windows works for 60% of what I do. Mac works for 20% of what I do, and when I'm feeling all nerdy I'll boot linux.

              Each have plus and negative points. For most people Windows works and does what they need.

              I for one won't scoff at a free upgrade.

              MS posts, Apple posts they always end up with an OS equivalent of a willy waving contest.

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          3. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

            Lync? Your big killer app is Lync?

            Linux must be gaining ground fast if that's the best you can come up with.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

              "Linux must be gaining ground fast if that's the best you can come up with."

              Yup it's racing from 0.8% of desktop to about 1.2% over the last decade.

              Still 2000 will be the year of the Linux desktop.

            2. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

              "Your big killer app is Lync?"

              Lync, Outlook - well most of the advanced features of Microsoft Office really don't have anything even close on Linux.

          4. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

            Lync ?

            Your behind the times, it's Skype for business now.

          5. hplasm
            Windows

            Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

            "And Linux's answer to Lync is?"

            You mean Sky(!)pe for Business... er Modernpe, er...

          6. Spasticus Autisticus
            Devil

            Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

            "And Linux's answer to Lync is?"

            Shoot it in the face.

          7. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            > And Linux's answer to Lync is?

            umm, not using Lync?

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

          "You stick with your Toy operating system and I will stick to Linux thank you!"

          Erm, but most toys that have an operating system these days run a version of - Linux! Windows at the low end tends to run BMWs, medical devices, ATMs, etc. etc....

    2. nkuk

      Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

      Hosting a party? I wont even be batting an eyelid.

    3. Truffle
      Trollface

      Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

      Well it will be my Birthday...so probably.

      1. h4rm0ny
        Thumb Up

        Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

        >>"Well it will be my Birthday...so probably."

        And you get the best birthday present ever! A new edition of Windows! :)

        1. VinceH

          Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

          ">>"Well it will be my Birthday...so probably."

          And you get the best birthday present ever! A new edition of Windows! To be able to say goodbye to Windows 8. :)"

          FTFY! :)

    4. Lionel Baden

      Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

      Well i think you need to revise your downvotes !!

      http://www.cnbc.com/id/33007219

      It was a amusing jibe, no need to get your knickers in a twist

    5. TheVogon

      Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

      Not really free. You already paid for it with your Windows 7 or 8 license. Even so, at first glance it seems quite generous of Microsoft not to charge extra for a new version.

      However - it's actually a very astute business plan - consumer OS licensing revenue is not as important as it used to be. Microsoft want to get the Windows App Store on your desktop and sell you Office 365, OneDrive, Xbox Music / Video and get you using Cortana (and therefore Bing), etc. etc!

      If it gets me a "free" OS upgrade though, then it works for me...

      1. streaky

        Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

        consumer OS licensing revenue is not as important as it used to be

        To be fair I'm pretty sure it's a major deal for Microsoft and shareholders are going to take some convincing.

        As for parties, OS works, get on with it.

        1. TheVogon

          Re: How many of you Windows user will be...

          "To be fair I'm pretty sure it's a major deal for Microsoft and shareholders are going to take some convincing."

          It really isn't. Consumer OS sales are worth much less than business ones - and most are heavily subsidised OEM versions anyway. Microsoft will likely only need to sell a single Office 365 or OneDrive subscription, a few Windows Store apps, or have you use Bing (even via Cortana) for a few years on each PC to make more money than a home license would have cost...

  2. Ashton Black

    Hmmm....

    Might be worth it on my W8.1 Surface, but on my Win7 gaming rig, I think I'll wait a bit.

    1. Jack Faust meets Mephistopheles

      Re: Hmmm....

      On the gaming front I wouldn't wait - DX12 my friend....

      1. Joe 48

        Re: Hmmm....

        And the ability to game with xBox one users without the need for a console. I can't wait to see how this works. Although no doubt you'll need an xBox subscription!

      2. Michael Habel

        Re: Hmmm....

        DX12 w/ that shiny new GTX980 ONLY 600.00€ + S&H ON AMAZON NOW! Best part you'll probably want Two of 'em for all that SLI goodness!

        1. Boothy

          Re: Hmmm....

          DX 12 should be supported by most current, and a lot of older DX10/11 cards, as it's basically driver optimisations, rather than hardware changes.

          For example, nVidia Fermi chipset upwards will support DX12, that's the GeForce 400 series from 2010.

          For AMD it needs GCN, which is HD 7700 onwards (2012).

          So anyone who has a reasonably current system, and especially anyone with a 'gaming rig' should benefit.

          Personally, I'm on Win 7 64bit, I'm not planning on shifting to Win 10 any time soon.

        2. Joerg

          Re: Hmmm....

          DirectX 12 is a facade.

          First games with DirectX 12 support are showing no real improvement over DirectX 11 unless a bunch more 3D characters on the screen could be claimed to be a huge achievement..

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Hmmm....

            "unless a bunch more 3D characters on the screen could be claimed to be a huge achievement"

            Lots more polygons you mean? That IS a significant improvement for the same hardware for just a driver / API change!

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Hmmm....

        "On the gaming front I wouldn't wait - DX12 my friend"

        Quite - up to 40% performance gain on a PC and up to 20% performance gain on the Xbox One...OpenGL is at least a year behind.

        1. Joerg

          Re: Hmmm....

          Anonymous Coward: "Quite - up to 40% performance gain on a PC and up to 20% performance gain on the Xbox One...OpenGL is at least a year behind."

          In your dreams! The overall average performance gain is not going to be anything better than 10% to 15%.

          And Microsoft was claiming a +100% to +500% improvement...

          First games with DirectX 12 support are proof that that is far from the truth and there will be no real reason to use DirectX 12 at all. So no real reason to install the awful Windows 10 aka Windows 8.2 with Metro/ModernUI crap and the fake start menu plagued with Metro.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Hmmm....

            "In your dreams! The overall average performance gain is not going to be anything better than 10% to 15%."

            If you count crappy integrated graphics PCs maybe. For high end hardware, 40% performance gain is realistic.

            "And Microsoft was claiming a +100% to +500% improvement..."

            Actually it's better than that for many use cases:

            http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900814/tested-directx-12s-potential-performance-leap-is-insane.html

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    I'll upgrade...

    ...after a few months, to let everyone else sort out the normal issues.

    1. Zog_but_not_the_first
      Meh

      Re: I'll upgrade...

      I guess that'll be the tack taken by most Reg commentards. I'd like to see some clarification on how invasive Win 10 is (Cortana, always connected, MS account, sync to "cloud" etc.) first.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        WTF?

        Re: I'll upgrade...

        I'd like to see some clarification on how invasive Win 10 is (Cortana, always connected, MS account, sync to "cloud" etc.) first.

        Well if like 8.1 on the phone, here is the bizarre, complex thing...stand by, it's really difficult....You TURN IT OFF.

        I know, crazy shit.

        Next you'll be telling me Android needs a Google account and iOS needs an Apple ID in order to get all the extra bits, like Apps.

        1. Zog_but_not_the_first
          Trollface

          Re: I'll upgrade...

          > Lost all faith...

          I guess I'm an "off by default" kind of guy who like to add in features if they're useful to me. But if you prefer to eat in restaurants where your food comes with mayo AND tomato ketchup AND HP sauce AND mustard AND custard AND ...

          You can always scrape them off the plate after all.

          Trolling slightly, hence icon.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: I'll upgrade...

          well you certainly DO need a google account if you want to access some features. And they make it difficult to get the apps other than by logging in (google, hello again) to the Play store, conveniently run by google.

    2. Wade Burchette

      Re: I'll upgrade...

      I'll upgrade when Win10 respects my privacy. So, in other words, I won't upgrade.

    3. adnim
      Meh

      Re: I'll upgrade...

      After I am convinced it will not wipe the restore partition on my laptop. And then, if I can install a third party firewall and discover that there is still sufficient function left after I stop it talking to Microsoft, I may just keep it long term. My win 7 restore partition will remain until I am convinced that this is not a bait and switch scam.

      To be honest the ONLY attraction of this OS is Direct X 12. And curiosity as to how much user data win 10 will actually want to send to Microsoft. I can't see any other benefit (other than it allegedly being a little quicker) to me personally and my usage patterns to warrant a change.

    4. Michael Habel

      Re: I'll upgrade...

      ...after a few months, to let everyone else sort out the normal issues.

      And when MicroSoft make good on theit threats to though the proverbial "it", at the Walls to see what stick... Stinks so as NOT to upset the Banker Classes? e.g. Patch Tuesday? I'll be sitting here on Window 7 x64 thank you....

  4. Blank-Reg
    Windows

    My first thought: What's the catch?

    My second thought: I think I'll wait a bit...

  5. TonyJ

    Still doing 32bit

    Noticed on MSDN the insider preview comes in a 32 bit flavour. I am surprised they still do x86 client OS's these days.

    1. dogged

      Re: Still doing 32bit

      It's mainly for cheap tablets (1GB of RAM and no GPU - why would you want 64bit?)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Still doing 32bit

        But the iPhone people say that 64 bit is essential on tablets with 1GB because it runs so much faster. I hope you're not claiming that they're full of it.

        1. dogged

          Re: Still doing 32bit

          Hey, if the iPhone people say that, it must be true. They invented computers in 1864, right?

  6. Beau
    Happy

    Windows 10?

    Well if windows is running to form:-

    XP Good.

    Vista Rubbish.

    7 Good.

    8 Rubbish.

    10 Good?

    Well, lets wait and see, at least that's what I'll be doing!

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