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Singapore's dominant telco, Singtel, has announced a pilot deployment of 10Gbps broadband to a select group next quarter, and says that it expects the blistering fast Internet service to be generally available by the later part of this year. The high speed connectivity is only possible due to the completion of Singapore’s Next …

  1. Terafirma-NZ

    and still slow

    This won't make a difference if they still force all traffic over some low cost pipe back to the US to then be routed to the wider Internet. I'm betting that this service will not used their premium peering service.

    1. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge

      Re: and still slow

      The NSA helped kick-start a revolution where the rest of the world will stop caring about US Internet. Cheap access to 10Gbps means that the next big online service could be invented by pretty much anybody. The Internet can become more distributed, like it should be.

      US home Internet is pretty much for checking mail and surfing the web. Some lucky people can even use it to watch a movie. Innovate with it? No.

    2. Crazy Operations Guy

      Re: and still slow

      Why would traffic need to go to the US anyway? Singapore is wired in to the SEA-ME-WE pipes as well as several massive pipes connecting to China, India, Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, and points beyond. Any website or internet service anyone would want either is mirrored in Singapore already, in a nearby country, or is of trivial significance.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: and still slow

        "Why would traffic need to go to the US anyway?"

        Well it wouldn't need to. If you don't want your data to go the NSA and GCHQ, then they'll come to your data with an offshore wiretap and listening station in some nowheresville that's open to business on behalf of Five-spies.

        Think of it like a doctor - if you can't get to them, out of the goodness of their heart they'll come to you.

  2. Alistair
    Pint

    10Gbs Fiber to the home.

    I think I'm moving house soon...... (and for my neck of the woods my 25Mbs is considered pretty good)

    Beer, because 10Gbs is more than I get in the DC right now.

    1. Charles 9

      Re: 10Gbs Fiber to the home.

      You might want to reconsider. Singapore isn't exactly a wide-open paradise. In fact, probably the only reason a place like Singapore can pull this off is it's SIZE. We're talking a tiny little SPECK off the south tip of Malaysia. Japan's a slightly better example with its many islands, but it's still only about the size of California and much denser. Color me impressed when a large, sparse country can guarantee something like 1Gbps throughout its territory.

  3. MrZoolook
    Meh

    Just one question

    Why would anyone need the ability to download 2 films per second in a home environment?

    1. Aoyagi Aichou
      Boffin

      Re: Just one question

      To move to 2015, when films aren't CD-sized any more.

    2. Chris Miller

      Re: Just one question

      And that's assuming you can find a site* willing and able to provide a download stream at 10Gbps.

      * Maybe you could do it using torrents within Singapore, but if more than a few dozen people did that at once, there's going to be a central switch taking a hell of a hammering.

    3. FlossyThePig

      Re: Just one question

      Let's add a couple of misquotes to the mix

      "I think there is a world market for about five computers"

      "640 K ought to be enough for anybody"

    4. Tom 7

      Re: Just one question

      When ADSL hit general use in the UK a friend of mine managed to torrent enough films to take a lifetime to watch. Now he's got FTTC he's still at it.

      The greater the bandwidth the lower the baud rate.

  4. TrancerSte

    Agree this is a largely pointless pissing contest at the moment. I'm in Singapore and I have 1gbps, but even that is more than I can use. The only reason I have 1gbps is because my provider keeps upgrading everyone for free, so in the last 18 months 300mbps became 500mbps, became 1gbps...

    Synthetic speed test aside, real world speed on a single client (fast desktop PC, direct 1GBE connection to router, 2x 50 connection Usenet servers, 1 US and one NL) maxes out around 50MB/s. It's nice to think I could do this while simultaneously streaming UHD Netflix to all my non-existent 4K devices, though...

  5. TVC

    Interesting but is really that good?

    The internet only goes as quick as the slowest connection so no matter how fast your local connection is your download / upload will only go as fast as the server you are connected to and it's internet connection.

    Since I upgraded to 38mbs FTTC from broadband, things are faster, but typically not that much faster for a lot of sites.

    Internationally, I was always surprised at how little infrastructure had to fail (eg single undersea cable cut by a trawler or earthquake) to effectively cut off a whole country. How useful your local gigabit link now?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Interesting but is really that good?

      Yes it is. While your point has merit its a bit naive.

      The slowest-link factor applies only at the level of single connections. Having a bigger pipe at your end means you can have more connections operating in parallel to many different "slow" services and your total experience is faster and more convenient.

      If you are lucky enough to hit a remote end that is also fast it gets to the point you dont even notice the Internet was there. Stuff "just happens".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Interesting but is really that good?

        The point still stands since there are frequently chokepoints: points where it's not only slow but the only practical way to get there (either there's no alternative or any alternative is even slower than the chokepoint). Think one of those underwater cables and they're really REALLY busy at the moment. That's why the longer the trip, the more likely things show down because the more likely you hit chokepoints. Trust me, I speak from experience.

  6. Amiga13

    8K is coming

    In detail it is 8k 120fps 48 bit Color depth is coming

  7. Amiga13

    8k 120fps 48 bit Color depth is coming

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "8k 120fps 48 bit Color depth is coming"

      So good you said it twice. But what's your advice? Should we walk round the streets with placards proclaiming "8k cometh, and all your porn will be obsolete", or were you thinking more along the lines of telling us all to run for the hills?

      1. Charles 9

        I think porn hits its practicality limit when HD came along. Porn is nice, but up-close HD details starts to get countered by the Too Much Information factor.

    2. Bob H

      From the content provider side 8k is only being developed for public display use currently, although I am sure Samsung and Sony will try and sell it to consumers because they want muppets to buy a display they couldn't possibly appreciate with human eyes at reasonable viewing distances. 1080p140 is actually beautiful and more striking to me than 4Kp50, but the marketdroids haven't noticed and are focused on flogging 4K panels.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Real 10GbE?

    Is this a real 10GbE link, like 10GBASE-SR or 10GBASE-T, or is it a time-sliced link, like 10GBASE-PR? Last I checked, you can take a EPON cable from the CO and splice it several hundred times.

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