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El Reg bookworm Mark Diston chews through the latest literary treats with a fascinating autobiography from composer Philip Glass. Jesse Armstrong of Peep Show fame has a debut novel and for comic novel fans we've a curious take on the development of the first computer from Sydney Padua. Words Without Music Philip Glass is a …

  1. keithpeter Silver badge
    Coat

    fixing washing machines

    Anecdote: A N.Y. music critic was writing a review of a Glass piece in the early days and was surprised when the guy fixing his washing machine came over to correct one of the descriptions. It was the composer.

    I read a blog post by the critic a few years ago but google is flooded with links to book reviews at present so I'll have to dig for the source. Might be in Kyle Gann's Minimalism book.

    Coat icon: I'm off down to Waterstones now to see if they have a copy in yet

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Stick with Four Lions

    An oddly paced and patchy movie with some parts so laugh out loud funny they will stay with you forever.

    1. Cliff

      Re: Stick with Four Lions

      Not your traditional blockbuster, but genuinely moving and even provocative in places.

      And is the Honey Monster a bear?

      1. Code Monkey
        Thumb Up

        Re: Stick with Four Lions

        It's big flaw was not being quite as funny as Chris Morris's tv work - a standard which leaves plenty of room to still be funny. I laughed most of the way through and the ending was superb. Well worth a revisit from me as well.

  3. Tim99 Silver badge
    Coat

    Headline?

    I thought that Mark might have been reviewing cartoons featuring Linda, not Ada...

  4. x 7

    "The Thrilling Tale of Loveless and Bondage".

    That would probably sell better as a graphic novel tiitle

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Overrated...

    Is Byron really overrated as per the article? He may have been at the time and during the Romantic period, but I doubt if he has been for some time.

    And Babbage dying a failure? Not really. He's only a failure if you regard him purely from the point of view of being a little too far ahead of his time for his mechancial computers to be completed. In terms of his overall effect on his era, he was very successful. You might as well argue Brunel was a failure because his broad gauge was eventually reduced.

    Newton's remarks about successive generations standing on the shoulders of giants are relevant here.

    1. Bleu

      Re: Overrated...

      Glass sure is overrated in general.

      I liked Einstein on the Beach many years ago. Ashamed of my lack of taste at the time, now.

      Still love his soundtrack to Schrader's Mishima, a Life in Four Parts. Some is dull, most is very fitting and really works well with the film. ... but that is a movie soundtrack, presumably not what Glass would like to be remembered for.

      Favourite for me.

    2. Bleu

      Re: Overrated...

      The smaller one was completed, the one to do calculus calculations, if I recall correctly.

    3. Andrew Newstead

      Re: Overrated...

      Careful, Newton was actually being sarcastic with that expression...

    4. Stevie

      You might as well argue Brunel

      ...was a failure because his broad gauge was eventually reduced.

      Brunel, like all engineers working at the bleeding edge, had many, many failures in his lifetime, and his vision could not only be strangely limited, but tunneled to the nth degree.

      The broad gauge issue is a case in point.

      Brunel's broad gauge had many advantages, chief of which was a much smoother ride than the standard gauge railways of the day, but it was more expensive to build and maintain than standard gauge railways were and could not be integrated smoothly into the national rail network, already established and growing apace and almost universally standard gauge.

      For a man who understood so much, his attitude to broad gauge and the huge national public stink the "break in gauge" issue generated is a genuine puzzlement. Money was poured into the broad gauge rail system even when it was obvious to everyone that it could not survive.

      Another gotcha in the GWR that should have been obvious as Bad Design from the get-go: a semaphore signal protocol that declared that horizontal means caution (or stop) and pointing downward means go. Everyone else realized that in the event of a broken actuator, gravity would be working in the cause of rail safety. Brunel's design called for counterweights to be added to make it all work the same way. More expensive, more complex, less failsafe (because there's ways the weights can fail too).

      Brunel was a great man, but he was wrong a lot.

      And the Broad Gauge was a gorgeous, magnificent, inspiring failure.

      And I say this as a lifelong fan of God's Wonderful Railway and the people who built it.

      1. x 7

        Re: You might as well argue Brunel

        The South Devon Atmospheric Railway. The Great Eastern, both excellent examples of how not to do it. Only only just managed to build and survive his Thames tunnel by the skin of his teeth, the floods there were seriously fatal.

        And as for locomotive design, the directors of Gods Wonderful Railway took that away from him because his designs were crap.

        What he was good at was civil engineering : railways, bridges and his later tunnels -e.g. the Severn Tunnel

        1. Stevie

          Re: his [locomotive] designs were crap

          I fear you have confused the Great Man with one Francis Webb.

          1. x 7

            Re: his [locomotive] designs were crap

            Webb's designs were pretty useless as well, way underpowered. But Brunel was a failure at locomotive design - thats why Gooch was hired

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Please God no, don't put on a Philip Glass LP !

    His music is the most boring, pretentious, rambling, self indulgent drivel I've ever had the misfortune to hear.

    1. Bleu

      I agree

      but there are exceptions, check the Mishima movie by Schrader, much or most of the soundtrack stands up well without the movie.

    2. CliveM

      Please God no, don't put on a Philip Glass LP !

      His music is the most boring, pretentious, rambling, self indulgent drivel I've ever had the misfortune to hear.

      I quite like a lot of his music, and I think he would have to be considered one of the great composers of the 20th century although that is damning with faint praise to some extent.

      Pretentious? Rambling? Certainly. He's one of those individuals of whom your opinion always nosedives the instant he opens his mouth. So, no, I'll pass on that I think, wouldn't want to sour the music.

      1. Bleu

        Not rambling

        just repetitive and bombastic.

        Generally overrated.

        I will again recommend Schrader's Mishima, a Life in Four Parts, and the Glass soundtrack.

        The movie was long-banned here, because his widow has sway with the habitual ruling party, and members and friends of the party don't like like the brief depiction of his gay side.

        For goodness sakes, it was a central theme in his own novel.

        I recommend Mishima, a Life in Four Parts, to all Regtards, it is a brilliant movie, and IMHO, work of Glass on the soundtrack, not always great, is great in many places.

        There was a pJa

        1. Bleu

          Re: Not rambling

          There was a plan to do a Hollywood remake, thankfully cancelled for economic reasons, the Schrader movie is a masterpiece. Glass soundtrack matches it in many parts.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Who ever down voted me may you be eternally cast into in hell with "1000 Airplanes on the Roof" being constantly played to you.

    4. keithpeter Silver badge
      Windows

      Etudes

      Try the piano Etudes.

      (in the same general territory as the Shostakovich preludes and some Scriabin pieces, not what you are expecting).

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      His music is the most boring, pretentious, rambling, self indulgent drivel

      How anyone can describe something that sounds like a catfight in a hardware store as "music" is beyond me.

  7. Bleu

    Bowie's Low

    Glass's take on that was abysmally dull.

    1. Bleu

      Re: Bowie's Low

      Actually, I think it was Low and Heroes. Not worth detailed recollection. The ambient bits on the originals were brilliant, subjected to the Glass '123' treatment, they quickly become tiring.

      1. Bleu

        Re: Bowie's Low

        However, that was where I became convinced that Glass was generally the Emperor's new clothes type of person.

  8. x 7

    Watch the films Koyaanisqatsi and Powaqqatsi and then re-evaluate Glass's music.

    Its more a kind of structured soundscape than classically inspired music and needs to be experienced within the correct context

    1. xerocred

      Koyaanisqatsi on 4 screens in Oxford Street

      I was transfixed for over an hour.

  9. SysKoll

    I found Padua's Lovelace and Babbage comic quite enjoyable

    I I found Sydney Padua's Lovelace and Babbage comic quite enjoyable. I believe the problem is the reviewer expected an accurate, historical fiction, where this is a joyous romp through the tropes of the Victorian age, with a bit of historical references and a lot of tongue-in-cheek.

    Padua underlines a few entertaining elements of her historical figures, such as Lovelace's maths keeping poetry at bay, or Babbage's Aspergerian intolerance for street musician and his perpetually scatterbrained work. This can be better appreciated by people who actually know and love this tragic couple and their time. Otherwise, some jokes could be missed.

    If you are a history buff, if you ever read a biography of either Babbage or Lovelace, you should read Padua's book. You'll get a great kick out of it.

  10. The other JJ

    Another Glass anecdote

    A similar anecdote about Glass is that after a concert of his at somewhere like the Carnegie Hall, back in the cab for the late shift he gets a fare taking a couple home from a restaurant. As the lady tips him she says "Young man, do you know you look just like the composer we saw this evening, and one day he'll be very famous".

    1. Bleu

      Re: Another Glass anecdote

      Don't believe it for a second.

      1. The other JJ

        Re: Another Glass anecdote

        The Guardian, 24 November 2001 "Einstein on the Beach was premiered in Avignon on July 25 1976. Glass and Wilson were then offered the option of two performances at the Metropolitan Opera in New York, where the critical reaction was delirious: "One listens to the music just as one watches Wilson's shifting tableaus," wrote John Rockwell in the New York Times, "and somehow, without knowing it, one crosses the line from being puzzled or irritated to being absolutely bewitched." The day after the performance, Glass was back driving his taxi: "I vividly remember the moment, shortly after the Met adventure," he says, "when a well-dressed woman got into my cab. After noting the name of the driver, she leaned forward and said: 'Young man, do you realise you have the same name as a very famous composer'."

  11. ecofeco Silver badge

    YES!!!!

    The Thrilling Adventures of Lovelace and Babbage

    I've been following this comic on-line for years. Simply brilliant is what it is.

    If you are not familiar with it, do so right now!

  12. Henry Wertz 1 Gold badge

    "I I found Sydney Padua's Lovelace and Babbage comic quite enjoyable"

    Me to, and I recall the online comic being reasonably coherent too. I don't know if the reviewer simply didn't like it (which is certainly fine) or if some bits got cut between the online comic and book.

    Also... I hate to say it, it's a little harsh to call Babbage a failure but... although his contributions then and now were important, he did end in his later years flat broke, destitute, and bitter (basically from going broke before he could complete building his inventions.) Some inventors and people who start startups now use the phrase "go for broke" (invest everything into your invention or startup), and he literally did.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Babbage

      "he did end in his later years flat broke, destitute, and bitter"

      As he died in the house he had inhabited for 40 years and was buried at Kensal Green, this is some usage of "destitute" with which I am unfamiliar.

  13. Slider118

    Akhnaten

    "The Window Of Appearances" especially.

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