back to article No, really, the $17,000 Apple Watch IS all about getting your leg over

There was a certain amount of consumer resistance to my assertion that the Apple Christometer's $17,000 worth of bling was all about sex. But I'm afraid that this really is so. Bling is about getting sex: and it's the women who decide that it is as well. We have a less than reputable source for this: …conspicuous consumption …

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  1. Dana W

    Enough with the $17,000 watch. How many of those are there again? Less than ten? The way the tech press spins this, you would think that is what an Apple watch actually costs.

    1. Ian Michael Gumby

      Besides that...

      Some would say that its going to be a collectible. (Precious metals and all that)

      But still. If this was about sex...

      Do you realize how much hookers and blow you could get for 17K ?

      1. Tom 13

        Re: Do you realize how much

        Hookers and blow might get you sex, but not a kid. And it's more about the kid than the sex. It's just that given how short the sex is relative to how long it takes to raise a kid, the sex has to be REALLY REALLY great.

  2. Mage Silver badge
    Coat

    We are doomed

    So all our descendants are going to be from a few iThing/iShiny purchasers?

    I don't think so. They are so captivated by bling that they have given up intercourse with humans of opposite gender.

    Besides they can't afford Apple upgrades and rug rats as well.

    Slow news day?

    Mine is the one with the "selfish" gene in one pocket and Origin of the species in the other :-)

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      1. Mage Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: We are doomed

        You miss the point.

        Dawkin's book wasn't real science and "Evolution" has evolved a lot since Darwin wrote. It was a humours bon mot.

        1. PNGuinn
          Go

          "Evolution" has evolved a lot since Darwin wrote.

          I see what you did there.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: We are doomed - @Mage

          My comment wasn't directed at you, I was suggesting that Mr. Worsthall was relying on an understanding of natural selection that is already rather out of date.

          Whether I was being downvoted for that, or for suggesting that the gospel according to St. Richard isn't semper, ubique et ad omnibus I don't know.

    2. PNGuinn
      Trollface

      "So all our descendants are going to be from a few iThing/iShiny purchasers?"

      Y'know, real soon now we may have to say sorry to all those telephone sanitisers.....

    3. Steve Knox

      Re: We are doomed

      He said that the watch was all about sex, not that sex was all about the watch.

      Parse the logic, and you'll see why your presumed conclusion does not follow.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: We are doomed

      "This male-specific decline occurred during the mid- to late-Neolithic period."

      War.

      PS On a related note. I humped a cave last weekend. Don't bother. Overrated.

    5. LucreLout
      Gimp

      Re: We are doomed

      So all our descendants are going to be from a few iThing/iShiny purchasers?

      Oh... I sort of thought men bought Apple products to attract other men.

  3. Salamander

    This only works if the girl has the nouse to tell the genuine bling from the fake bling.

    As Tim's previous arcticle indicated, there is not $17000 worth of gold in the Gold Apple watch, so a solid gold knock need not cost a lot.

    And how many people would be able to tell the diference between the solid gold Rolex and the gold plated knock off?

    Depending on which side of the line you are on, this is either a problem or an advantage. A problem if you are a woman trying to determine which bloke to shag. An advantage if you lack real resources as it means that you can fake being rich and get a shag.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      @Salamander

      Evolutionary biology knows all about faking it. Harmless insects that look like wasps, toads that inflate themselves to look bigger, there are many examples. It's a game in which the rules are constantly shifting.

      The "best" attractants therefore are the ones that can't be faked. A Chinese knockoff Porsche 911 might work in the Chinese backwoods where nobody has ever seen or heard the real thing, but it won't work in London. It's quite difficult to fake an ocean going yacht. Watches, OTOH, are very easy to fake. As the news of this gets around, their value as indicators of the ability to burn £20 notes to warm the pigsty must decline - which is why Rolexes are no longer very special and things that have lots of visible strange little mechanisms are better, as being harder to fake.

      I think Apple have chosen the wrong product unless it is aimed mainly at China.

      1. Voland's right hand Silver badge

        Re: @Salamander

        Quote: A Chinese knockoff Porsche 911 might work in the Chinese backwoods where nobody has ever seen or heard the real thing, but it won't work in London. It's quite difficult to fake an ocean going yacht

        Indeed. Confirmed by the mandatory Despair.com reference:

        http://www.despair.com/love.html

        1. xperroni
          Coat

          Re: @Salamander

          Indeed. Confirmed by the mandatory Despair.com reference

          Never get tired of that one. "Once you've got that covered, you'l be fighting love off with a stick." Priceless.

        2. Cubical Drone

          Re: @Salamander

          I think that this one might apply as well.

      2. Bassey

        Re: @Salamander

        > Evolutionary biology knows all about faking it

        I think you missed the point slightly. If the female goes for the male, whether he is faking it or not is irrelevant. The point is that she CHOSE him and therefore the "faking", as you put it, was successful. The point is for her to chose the mate most likely to provide offspring that will go on to have offspring. So, in a sense, there is no "fake". Whoever she chooses is the real deal as defined by HER choice, not his actions.

      3. LucreLout

        Re: @Salamander

        It's quite difficult to fake an ocean going yacht.

        Faking the yacht, yes. Faking ownership of a rented yacht however.......

    2. BongoJoe

      I can see this being grounds for rape in a twisted universe not far enough away from here

      "M'Lud he gave me the impression that his Rolex was solid gold so, thusly, he shagged me on false pretences because I wouldn't have consented"

  4. Voland's right hand Silver badge

    Industrial revolution was too short

    Sigh... You need at least several hundred years _AND_ an absense of major conflict or migration to create a proper "genetic narrowing" on wealth accumulation grounds. That is why it is observed during the neolithic period and not after.

    With the foundation of first tribal unions sometimes around the bronze age no human civilizaiton in Eurasia saw more than a few hundred years without a major invasion (to mix up the gene pool). Further to this, the periods of peace got progressively shorter and shorter. Thus, an "economic" factor in relation to genetic diversity would have been unable to kick in from sometimes around 2000 bc and onwards till this day.

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    1. dogged
      Headmaster

      > After all, that's something I can never loose...

      See me after class.

      *flexes cane*

      1. dan1980

        Well, one cannot (let) loose what one no longer has.

        Just saying that if one reads it as one would "loose the dogs", it could still be accurate, though it would be a strange and unsavoury image.

  6. David Haig
    Unhappy

    B Ark

    ... That is alll

    1. Message From A Self-Destructing Turnip

      Re: W Oof

      ...sniff, sniff...

  7. Mark 85

    Of course it's all about sex...

    Bling is about money and wealth (and the subset of power). One may have all these and still not get sex but those who see them (and their "stuff") will believe they are getting it on daily if not hourly. Very much like peacock plumage.

    I'm wondering why this article even needed to be written unless it's because of our very geekdom that makes us need to be reminded of this basic premise.

    1. dan1980

      Re: Of course it's all about sex...

      Perhaps, but then I don't think it's really that accurate. At least not anymore and at least not everywhere. One only needs to look at the less-affluent to see that they are just as likely to produce additional humans as the more affluent. Anecdotally, some might suggest they are actually more likely to produce children - and more of them.

      What may have been true in a smaller, simpler society does not necessarily have to be true in the huge and rather more complex society we live in today. Especially not where social welfare is available.

      After all, the difference between a 'rich' male and a 'poor' one may have been more likely to make a noticeable difference to the likelihood of grandchildren in neolithic agricultural times than it is today.

      The problem is not that the poorer people in our society are not able to have children, but that their children are more likely to be poorer as well, creating a cycle of poverty in the offspring, but not necessarily reducing the chance or number of those offspring.

      What wealth does allow a male to do is to mate with more desirable females. Desirable in this society generally being synonymous with 'attractive'. Which, can mean that the offspring of a richer male may be more attractive, as they will have an attractive mother.

      And of course, those children, being more likely to be attractive (and more likely to be rich as well), are more likely to be able to secure a more desirable match, thus concentrating both wealth and attractiveness.

      So, being a wealthy male means you are more likely to have attractive children and being an attractive woman means you are more likely to have wealthy children, but does not mean you are more likely to actually have children or that you will have more of them or that they are more likely to reach maturity and reproduce, yielding grandchildren.

      At least not in a 'modern' society or one where there is a relatively equal number of males and females.

      1. dan1980

        Re: Of course it's all about sex...

        Distilled, I suppose what I am saying is that money allows less attractive* males to have sex with more attractive females - people who would normally be 'out of their league'.

        In Australia, for example, it is unlikely that Geoffrey Edelsten could entertain his penchant for well-endowed women several decades his junior if he did not have the wallet for it. He doesn't have children, but of course that doesn't change the argument because the sex-drive exists to further procreation regardless of whether one actually procreates.

        Look anywhere and you will see rich men with younger, more attractive wives. Not everyone of course, but you will see it everywhere.

        * - However that attractiveness is defined.

      2. LucreLout

        Re: Of course it's all about sex...

        One only needs to look at the less-affluent to see that they are just as likely to produce additional humans as the more affluent. Anecdotally, some might suggest they are actually more likely to produce children - and more of them.

        Agreed, but it only works because of the welfare state. As society runs out of money to fund its continual expansion as a share of GDP, it will have to be trimmed, capped, or abndoned, depending on your politics. That will reduce the quantity of the breeding of the less affluent, if not the possibility of it.

        The rich will simply continue their lives unimpeded, free as they are to select any other country of residence, and having much of their wealth spread across jurisdications and domiciles. Absent being globally uber rich, however, the rich will always have fewer children than the poor for they understand that wealth divided loses its power; inheritance across a growing number of children, makes all heirs less rich with each successive birth. The poor, having nothing to split, are unimpeded by such concerns and in the modern world have no worries about how to feed, cloth or house their brood, the tab for such being picked up by the state in part or in full.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Of course it's all about sex...

          @LucreLout

          I would argue that the highest birthrate is among the poor in countries with little or no access to state supported welfare. When you have no state sponsored safety net your only viable retirement plan is to have lots of children and hope some of them survive long enough and are successful enough to support you in old age. Children also make for cheap farm labour for food production.

          Countries with strong social safety nets generally have low birth rates.

    2. Mark 65

      Re: Of course it's all about sex...

      More like it's all about onanism

    3. Teiwaz

      Re: Of course it's all about sex...

      The only celebs I can think that wore/ or wear bling are Mr T*. and a deceased DJ of infamy.

      I don't know about MR T, but most the the sex the other one got was not the type people should want.

      * (dammit, gave away what era I grew up in).

  8. SVV

    In this week's lecture....

    We learn that airheaded golddiggers are attracted by expensive shiny shiny. Who knew!

    However extensive field research by me and my friends has come to the amazing discovery that you can also get laid if you're a normal decent human being with a sense of fun and humour however much money you have or don't have.

    Is this another example of "read all the theory, little practical experience", or one of the more feeble attempts to crowbar free maket theory into any subject, no matter how relevant? Whatever the case, using these articles as the basis for any conversation on a date, or even idly mentioning them within a relationship will surely lead to a great implementation of the Singleton pattern (sorry, for that gag, have a bit of a design patterns related bet on at the moment...)

    1. dan1980

      Re: In this week's lecture....

      Gold-diggers dig gold is it?

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    1. LucreLout

      Re: How about this?

      I won't write over-simplistic posts about economics if Worsthall stops writing over-simplistic articles about evolution?

      It's almost painful to say it, but Worstall is rather better known in his feild than perhaps you are in yours - certainly once your pseudonym is applied.

      If you'd care to write an indepth rebuttal of his points along evolutionary lines, I can certainly promise to read it, even if I can't guarantee comprehension.

  10. Stevie

    Bah!

    The owners of these 1970-aesthetics watches are welcome to the super-chavs they'll attract. I'll stick to my trusty PAG240. Tells the time. Looks foxy (hint: thin isn't automatically better in a watch unless you are Steve Jobs - all those spreads* in Playgirl can't be wrong). Solar powered so it goes for more than three hours without me frantically looking around for a wall socket ("Is that a wall-wart charger in your pocket or etc etc"). Has a barometer with a memory so I can see if the evening's ents are going to be rained off *without* an internet connection.

    And it has a compass and altimeter in it so I can always tell how high I am and which way I'm pointed.

    I liked my PAG40's display better but I broke it when I took it apart to change the batteries.

    * - Ahahahahaha

    1. Gordon 10
      Joke

      Re: Bah!

      Shame it looks like one of those round sausages in a bun you used to be able to get in Wimpy, probably of a similar vintage too.

      1. Stevie

        Re: Shame it looks like

        Enjoy your three hours of Apple Timekeeping.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Bah!

      Wow, that PAG 240 really is an ugly fish swimming in a sea of ugliness on the planet Ugliana. Ugh!

  11. Dazed and Confused

    Getting your leg over

    Look life is all about getting your leg over.

    This $17K might be all about sex too, but it probably won't involve anyone else now will it.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Getting your leg over

      So if the watch is only about getting your leg over, exactly how many times would it help you get your leg over? Looking at the numbers, if it's less than 17 times then you might as well cut out the middle-man (Cook) and spend $1000 each on 17 of those ladies who charge extra for scrubbing up well.

      Or maybe it's not just only about getting your leg over.

    2. LucreLout

      Re: Getting your leg over

      Look life is all about getting your leg over.

      $17,000 buys a lot of hookers, but most won't want to bear you a child for that sum. I've got to agree with Worstalls grandkids == winning hypothesis.

  12. werdsmith Silver badge

    It's all BS.

    The watch won't bring you any closer to any experience worth £17K.

    1. Mark 85
      Coat

      Maybe the theory is that it won't get you 1 experience worth £17K but that it will you 17K of them worth £1 each.

      1. werdsmith Silver badge

        Assuming that these experiences are all repeats of a similar experience, we are still where we were.

  13. Dana W

    Most Apple watches will cost about as much as a decent iPod. All this is is clickbait. Personally, right now I'm wearing a very nice 1974 Seiko. Next year I'll still be wearing a real watch, How hard is it to fish your phone out of your pocket/purse?

  14. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge

    Misunderstood title

    I came here thinking that the Apple Watch was somehow related to the Riker Maneuver.

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Unfortunately the +35 breeding points I'd get with a $17k Apple Watch (or +50 breeding points for a good Rolex) are rather offset by the -115 breeding points penalty for working in IT, being in my 40s, and liking everything by both ELO and Omnium Gatherum.

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