Assange™ lawyers demand Swedish prosecution files or no London interview

Re: He twists and he turns -- on limitations.

In Canada, we have no statute of limitations. If you commit a crime in Canada, they can seek justice against you at any time. It might take years to gather enough evidence to make a successful prosecution, so the prosecution is allowed to take how ever long as they want or need.

Re: I suspect he *does* have something to hide

I suppose that depend on what you mean by "have something to hide."

I suspect that what he'd guilty of is being male and a cad, which was compounded by being fool enough to have sex with ideologically fanatical feminists. I suspect it was not what logical people would think of as rape, and have my doubts that it even was even rape by Sweden's definition. But given their ideological bent, I wouldn't want to find out whether or not the feminists would be willing to perjure themselves in court, especially if I was the only witness.

All that being said, he's still in a stew of his own making and needs to pay the piper.

Re: @Anakin He twists and he turns

Sparty,

Yes and no.

First, rape is one of the 32 crimes that doesn't require parody between the two countries, so really its what Sweden says.

While the high courts found that 2 of the 4 counts would still be considered rape in the UK, it meant that 2 counts wouldn't and of course there's the other issue.... getting a jury of his peers to find him guilty of the crime. That's where you will run in to difficulty. If you take everything at face value to be true, then you may have had a crime, yet during trial, if the defense can raise enough reasonable doubt... it makes going to trial moot.

I don't know why the high courts even suggested this because it wasn't necessary under the language of the extradition treaty.

But we're splitting hairs, we both agree that he needs to go back and face the music.

Oddly enough... had he not even fled jurisdiction (with the assistance of his attorney, which said attorney admitted to under oath...) , had he been charged and faced a trial, the worst case outcome would have been 4 years or so. The odds are he would have gotten far less time if any.

What this really points to is his character. And that says a lot.

Re: bragged about how good it was

Did both brag about it? No, they did not.

There is only one accusation of rape and only one. Both women's complaints are entirely different, except for two points. The obvious is they are complaining about the same individual. In principle that what started out as being consensual, had incidents that were not consensual.

With the most serious offense it is quite obvious that consent was absent. Sorry, but the courts nor the law use the standard you have suggested.

What he is accused of was released before his first extradition hearing. It was also included in the initial hearing and the appeal.

There can not be a desire to have "thrown them all in jail" when one does not even want to address the basics of the case.

Re: @ LucreLout

I'd concur with your sentiments if they filed the charges immediately after either encounter. But they didn't. In fact, they both bragged about how good it was. Until they met up with each other. At which point they both started singing the same song about being raped.

I wasn't there, so I don't know. I've never met or spoken to either woman involved, so again, I don't know.

However, it is possible that each woman was embarrassed or ashamed about what had happened, and unsure about coming forward. Once they became aware that it was an ongoing pattern of behaviour for assange, they may have decided to act, either because each gave the other the confidence to do so, or because the need to break his behaviour pattern was now elevated byt he frequency of its occurrance.

If all is as Assanges supporters say that it is, then there is zero risk or concern about being interviewed within the embassy. In no instance should his lawyers have chance to amend his story in relation to evidence gathered by the prosecution - his version of events must be recorded in full prior to that happening.

The most ridiculous aspect of all this, is that once he has answered the questions and completed the interview, the prosecutor may very well decide that there is no case for him to answer.

That's not executed. Dead yes. Executed no. Your language has some precision built into it. You should learn it.

@LucreLout

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I think Julian has the right to be scared. He's not going to be executed.

I'm not convinced about that. Sure, America won't put him out of our misery, but a sufficiently lengthy stay in general population may not see him leave incarceration HIV negative.

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Well that's a different sort of lethal injection... and of course with some of the drugs not made in the US and other countries now refusing to sell the drugs used in lethal injections to the US... we're back to other methods.

Sorry, but the point is that Assange will not face the death penalty at trial, which is a major stumbling block to extraditions. He may very well die in prison, any prison because of other inmates in gen pop.

As to HIV... for all we know, he may already have it and its one of the complaints that the girls had and wanted him tested because he chose to have unwelcomed unprotected sex with them.