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Microsoft moneybags Bill Gates feels stupid that he doesn't know any foreign languages – and wishes he had the time to learn French because he thinks it is the easiest to pick up. That was one of a number of insights in the life of the world's richest man* on Reddit earlier today, including the fact that he spends too long …

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  1. tfewster
    Terminator

    Can't...resist...temptation...to...say...

    Hey Bill - Get Microsoft to develop the robots. MS's new "killer app"? Even if they stay up long enough to become a menace to humanity, they'll be easily hacked to disable them.

    1. Triggerfish

      Re: Can't...resist...temptation...to...say...

      John Connor if you can take out the update server this'll be all over by Tuesday.

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  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Gates is more concerned that these "super intelligent machines" will be running Linux.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      A Linux Terminator

      That Linus is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. ... And it absolutely will not stop, ever - and when it reaches you it will stuck a finger up and insult you ..

      1. JDX Gold badge

        Re: A Linux Terminator

        Just imagine how unfriendly a Linux robot would be.

        1. Dave 126 Silver badge

          Re: A Linux Terminator

          It'l be alright - the Linux robot won't use its missile pods on principle because the drivers contain proprietary code.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: A Linux Terminator

          > Just imagine how unfriendly a Linux robot would be.

          Not unfriendly at all. Just a bit choosy about who its friends are.

          1. wolfetone Silver badge
            Coat

            Re: A Windows Terminator

            Would just be Ctrl + Alt + Del wouldn't it?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Would a Debian robot be a grey-bearded one built with a very old design and materials, almost a steampunk one?

      And guess any Linux AI would become schizophrenic in a little time... "I was Slackware, then Red Hat, then Mandrake, o no, Mandriva, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS, Kubunto, Mint... WHO I AM?????" - "rm -rf /".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Surely a Linux AI will lack humor, like most of its users...

  4. Chris G

    The Biggest Risk

    Will be when some IT MegaCorp releases it's latest AI and forces it on the world only half developed, in need of twice daily software upgrades and infinitely hackable,,, and no respect for it's customers!

    1st Super AI Law; An AI may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. An AI must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law providing they have paid their licence fee.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Joke

      Re: The Biggest Risk

      Have this one for free:

      Just waiting for the day we all end up half an hour late to work because the iCar or Android 'o' Wagon needed that software update!

      1. Archaon
        Black Helicopters

        Re: The Biggest Risk

        More worried about it being a company car that then won't drive off until half an hour after you're due to finish because it knows you've not done your full penance for the day.

        1. Dave 126 Silver badge

          Re: The Biggest Risk

          >An AI must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law providing they have paid their licence fee.

          Asimov was ahead of you: U.S Robots and Mechanical Men Inc only ever leased out their robots; they never became the property of the end-users.

          1. Thunderbird 2

            Re: The Biggest Risk

            I'm searching telephone directories and other records for "Susan Calvin" she might be important to know.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Terminator

        Re: The Biggest Risk

        You are way behind the times there, TechnicalBen, I was late for work one day over 20 years ago after a firmware update for the automatic gearbox on my Vauxhall Vectra installed during a service had messed up the changedown sequence under certain conditions and I had to take it back to the garage.

    2. James Micallef Silver badge
      Terminator

      Re: The Biggest Risk

      Directive 4 - CLASSIFIED

  5. Khaptain Silver badge

    French - Anything but easy.

    Bill, a word of advice, from experience. it is easier to learn modern Hebrew that it is to learn French.

    Je vous assure que Hebreu est plus facile que Francais.

    אני יודע, אני חייתי בישראל במשך 3 שנים..

    1. Mark 85

      Re: French - Anything but easy.

      But Coleman, he could have both!!! Maybe not, either of those are bear to even start to learn. Maybe he should just hire someone to translate for him.

      1. Khaptain Silver badge

        Re: French - Anything but easy.

        It will be interesting to see how will Cortana will fair in Win 10...

    2. Voland's right hand Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: French - Anything but easy.

      My exact thought. Dear old Bill. As clueless as ever.

    3. Sandtitz Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: French - Anything but easy.

      "Bill, a word of advice, from experience. it is easier to learn modern Hebrew that it is to learn French."

      Sorry to ruin your rant but Bill didn't say that French is easy - he only thinks it's easier than Chinese or Arabic:

      "...I wish I knew French or Arabic or Chinese. I keep hoping to get time to study one of these - probably French because it is the easiest."

      1. Khaptain Silver badge

        Re: French - Anything but easy.

        "Sorry to ruin your rant but Bill didn't say that French is easy - he only thinks it's easier than Chinese or Arabic:"

        Sorry to ruin "your" rant but I didn't comment that Bill said that learning French is easy. My comment was along the lines that learning French is actually more difficult than most people realise. Personally I found Hebrew easier than French and once you know some Hebrew you will find that it shares some elements with Arabic. Learn to count in Hebrew then do the same in Arabic and you will see what I mean.

        [I lived in Israel for several years so I do know what I am talking about].

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: French - Anything but easy.

          That's often depends from what native language you're from, and the group of languages it belongs to.

          For example, Italians are used to complex verb alike French, but Italians have far simpler pronounciation and writing rules. English speaking people may find verbs in other languages far more complex compared to theirs.

          But Italian no longer uses declensions (despite its roots in Latin), thereby Italians may find harder to learn languages where declensions are used (unless they were forced to study Latin or Ancient Greek at school, LOL!). Languages not using the Western alphabet require those used to it only to learn new ones, and so on... also many languages have a common root, for example most European languages (and some outside Europe) have common Indo-European roots, and thereby some similiarities - others, for example most Asiatic languages, have different roots and thereby the "first impact" looks much more complex when you come from one side or the other.

          Anyway, it's astonishing that in the XXI century americans are still wondered someone could speak a foreign language beyond English...

        2. James Micallef Silver badge

          Re: French - Anything but easy.

          Hebrew and Arabic require learning a whole new alphabet, at least with French he's already got a head start with a (mostly) known alphabet.

          Yes, French IS very difficult to fully master but not that difficult to pick up a basic knowledge

          1. Khaptain Silver badge

            Re: French - Anything but easy.

            "Hebrew and Arabic require learning a whole new alphabet, at least with French he's already got a head start with a (mostly) known alphabet."

            Learning a new alphabet is no where near as difficult as most people would imagine. There are after all only 22 letters in Hebrew for example. ( not including the nekadots - the vowels). It has been 27 years since I lived in Israel but even to this day I can still read. ( unfortunately I no longer understand very much of what I can read as my vocabulary is gone through lack of use).

            Whereas vocabulary is a massive learning curve as it requires a huge amount of memory. I am at a stage in my life whereby I use French words that I do not know/use in English. My memory no longers affords me the advantage of learning new words in both languages. ( French is my daily language, it has been for more than 20 years).

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: French - Anything but easy.

      A resounding +1 from me. A.k.a. Moi. :-)

      French is anything but easy. The grammar is treacherous. The language itself is very expressive and allows for very subtle nuances and constructs. And spoken French can be quite different than written French.

    5. MacroRodent

      Re: French - Anything but easy.

      For someone whose native language is English, the easiest languages probably would be other Germanic languages, like German or Swedish.. From my point of view (as a Finnish speaker), these are almost dialects of each other...

      1. Khaptain Silver badge

        Re: French - Anything but easy.

        @MacroRodent,

        Genau, Ich mochte Deutchse lernen.

        I began to learn to learn German on the 20min ride to work in the morning but I gave it up due to lack of requirement to speak it. I would agree that it appears to be closer to English than French but the logic behind phrase construction is intially quite difficult especially the verbs appearing at the end of a phrase and also the difficulty with having 3 genders. Even after 20 years in France I still dont remember whether some words are masculine or feminine.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: French - Anything but easy.

        "For someone whose native language is English, the easiest languages probably would be other Germanic languages, like German or Swedish.. From my point of view (as a Finnish speaker), these are almost dialects of each other..."

        It depends. A native english speaker will know a lot of the words in french even if he's never seen it before because the 2 languages share a LOT of vocabulary due to the Norman invasion and the hugenots. However this usually only works with the written language as the pronounciation is often quite different. However french verb conjugation is an absolute bloody nightmare - most kids from english schools will remember french verb tables with horror. In this sense the germanic languages are easier but they don't share much (obvious) vocab with english.

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    6. dogged

      Re: French - Anything but easy.

      Mm yeah, because verbs and nouns taking the gender of the speaker and listener(s) at the same time is tres facile. And the new word for the definite article, that's not confusing at all.

      I disagree. French is piss easy by comparison. But Spanish is easier still.

      1. dogged

        Re: French - Anything but easy.

        (missed edit time limit)

        Also, Hebrew is fugly. It sounds like you're trying to puke out a snake made of gravel. Why Eliezer Ben-Yehuda wanted Jews to speak like Klingons is beyond me but for some reason they decided it was a good idea...

        And an entirely different alphabet! Fantastic! With no vowels! So every single word is a crossword puzzle at all times and you have to know what a word says before you can read it. English isn't the world's most phonetic language - that would probably be German - but Hebrew takes the absolute fucking piss. Gotta love being suddenly illiterate.

        1. Dave 126 Silver badge

          Re: French - Anything but easy.

          >Also, Hebrew is fugly. It sounds like you're trying to puke out a snake made of gravel.

          Aye. I found often found myself sitting next to loudly Skyping Israelis in South American internet cafes. It was horrible.The majority of them were just out of national service and travelling with a gang of their former comrades, which is understandable enough - but might explain their disinclination to mix with others.

          The few young Israelis who were travelling by themselves were lovely, though.

        2. Khaptain Silver badge

          Re: French - Anything but easy.

          "Also, Hebrew is fugly",

          I couldn't disagree more, here's a little well known song that will help explain my thoughts about the above comment.

          "People are strange when you're a stranger,

          Faces look ugly when you're alone.

          Women seem wicked when you're unwanted,

          Streets are uneven when you're down."

          Krieger, Morrison, 1967

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: French - Anything but easy.

          > Hebrew is fugly. It sounds like you're trying to puke out a snake made of gravel

          Modern Hebrew, with its strong Ashkenazi influence (that German "r"! :-P ). I used to find Hebrew as spoken by the Mizrahim much more pleasant--of course, that's for someone who thinks there is no language as pleasant-sounding as properly spoken Modern Standard Arabic, so YMMV.

          1. dogged

            Re: French - Anything but easy.

            Omar Sharif's arabic is like a massage for your ears, true.

            Modern Hebrew sounds like Welshman having a fit.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: French - Anything but easy.

            "for someone who thinks there is no language as pleasant-sounding as properly spoken Modern Standard Arabic,"

            Sorry, but to me arabic sounds like a cat trying to cough up a hairball. If you want a beautiful language then there is no contest - Italian.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: French - Anything but easy.

              Someone would say French also... and regarding Italilans, depends on who speak that Italian. Some people from different areas of Italy may have deep local accents that can make Italian ugly to listen to.

              Anyway a lot depends of what kind of labguages you're used to hear and listen to... what you may find pleasant for someone else could be really unpleasant.

              For example I can't stand Spanish and Portoguese, English and French are OK, German is a bit harsh, I'm not displeased by Russian, I don't like Arabic, I'm puzzled by Chinese and Japanese...

            2. James Micallef Silver badge

              Re: French - Anything but easy.

              Have to agree that Italian is beautiful on the ear. It's also by far the easiest language that I know - The pronunciation is completely standard with no weird phonetics, and the grammatical rules are both extremely regular (very few exceptions) and 'light', with no funny constructs like cases.

              But then again every language is easy to a native speaker

        4. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: French - Anything but easy.

          Sorry, but one of the most phonetic language is Italian - you read it exactly the way it is written, something it shares with Finnish, AFAIK (but I can't speak Finnish).

          German is not, it has stricter pronounciation rules than English, but it's not really phonetic.

          1. dogged

            Re: French - Anything but easy.

            > Sorry, but one of the most phonetic language is Italian - you read it exactly the way it is written

            Lies. There are a myriad of cases where you have absolutely no indication whether "c" is "ess", "ka" or "cha".

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: French - Anything but easy.

              Not true. C is always hard in front of A, O and U, or a consonant (unless it's another C, which follows then the same rules of a single C). It's always soft (but alike in "tch", not "ess") in front of I and E. CH is used to turn it hard in front of I and E (K is not present in the Italian alphabet), while CI turns it soft in front of A, O and U. Same is true for G (J is not present in the Italian alphabet) - but the sound GN which is a bit peculiar (but always the same) and a bit difficult for some.

              C is never pronounced like "ess" in Italian.

              What Italian lack are ways to indicate vowels height (but there are fewer ones, and don't change the word meaning, even different parts of Italy may have different one for the same word), and a way to tell you if S or Z are voiced or not.

        5. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: French - Anything but easy.

          About phonetic languages: I've heard spanish is written how it is speaked. I know romanian is. Maybe italian and portuguese too.

          The thing with romanian is there are no dialects. So, please learn romanian :-)

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Happy

            Re: French - Anything but easy.

            And with Romanian, if a name ends in an "A", your pretty confident it's going to be a female on the end of the phone / email. Saves the awkwardness of asking if he/she can get back in touch.

    7. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: French - Anything but easy.

      To be fair, learning gutter (GCSE) French is quite easy. Learning proper French is not. But this goes for just about all languages. I imagine if you lived in France and worked there for three years you would pick up French a bit too, though the kind of French depends a lot on who you mix with. I'm much more comfortable writing in French about commercial matters and electronics than making polite social chit-chat.

      The question is nowadays, why learn French? The answer is demographics; the part of the world that speaks French at least as a second language is expanding quite rapidly. More people speak Spanish and Portuguese as a first language, but as they are all Romance languages, learning one facilitates the others. If you run a foundation that is doing a lot of work in Africa, French is a very good choice.

      Modern Hebrew...well, unless you plan to live in Israel, it's almost as niche as Haskell.

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: French - Anything but easy.

        "If you run a foundation that is doing a lot of work in Africa"

        That's probably quite a small sub-set of the population :-)

    8. Richard Taylor 2

      Re: French - Anything but easy.

      Well the alphabet can be a little difficult to start with, not to mention ingrained left to right hits, but then he has two alphabet already, roman and greek. But French really is not difficult to learn if you speak English (and are prepared to give it a try).

    9. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: French - Anything but easy.

      "Bill, a word of advice, from experience. it is easier to learn modern Hebrew that it is to learn French."

      Shirley all he has to do is practice his language of choice with Bing Translate. How could that go wrong?

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