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Nominet - currently pushing its plan to let people shell out for .uk web domains without the .co, .org and other second-level labels - now wants to know if certain words should be banned from any .uk registrations. In July, the UK domain registry once again pushed to unleash a tidal wave of second-level domain names on the web …

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  1. Tom 38

    Grubby little hands

    rubbing grubby little gears, all churning away at a "non profit" to increase revenue. If only they would concentrate on doing their job, which is to not fuck up .uk

    1. Martin Gregorie

      Re: Grubby little hands

      But, if they don't increase revenue how can they give themselves the bonuses and pay rises they obviously think they deserve?

  2. M Gale

    for example, it's known that paedeophiles have code words, such as "hobby" which refers to a child

    And some of them are even known to disguise themselves as whole schools!

    I think I can respond to this with "give me a fucking break".

    1. NomNomNom

      and if you see a man standing in a shop rapidly clapping his hands behind and in front of him, it's means he's a pedo. It's a secret signal to other pedos that there's an unattended child in the vicinity (typically 120 meters)

      Another code word they use is "bush2bush pipeman"

      Must be true because I saw it on the news

      1. Spoonsinger

        re: Another code word they use is "bush2bush pipeman"

        But "Well, what about the juniper bushes over there?"

        1. Matt 4

          Re: re: Another code word they use is "bush2bush pipeman"

          I'm suddenly reminded of brass eye.

          1. frank ly

            they are one step ahead ....

            (Use Tor or a VPN) - www.hobby.uk.com

          2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

            Re: re: Another code word they use is "bush2bush pipeman"

            "There's no evidence for it - but it is scientific fact"

            That used to be a joke before Theresa May

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    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Hobbycraft anyone??

      I'll let myself out.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Hobbycraft anyone??

        Of course there's a historical precedent. Last time officialdom banned someone from using the word "hobby" he switched to using Subbuteo instead.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "And some of them are even known to disguise themselves as whole schools!"

      And whole religions.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Theresa May, Jackie Smith in a rubber mask?

  3. Colin Millar
    Big Brother

    Banning words

    Yes - how could that go wrong

    Next week - lets go out and burn some books cos they have the banned words in them

    1. andreas koch
      Coat

      @ Colin Millar - Re: Banning words

      Well, if we get CP* to have a word in it, book burning will only be the start.

      I think she read "1984" and "Fahrenheit 451", but thought they were official guidelines. I suspect that as soon as she had her dinner with Jimmy Wales (he volunteered to enlighten her a bit about web filtering) she will put a proposal for a moderated, mirrored and change-locked UK-net whitelist to the House of Whoever. Since she can then actually guarantee that there's no smut whatsoever (not even anything that mumsnet could object to, they most likely being on the control board) on there, she'll probably even get it through.

      Well, see it this way: Freedom of information was nice while it lasted. Time to move on, and maybe move out.

      * Not Child Porn, Claire Perry, MP.

    2. andreas koch
      Devil

      . . . and another thing - Re: Banning words

      Something completely related.

  4. Androgynous Cupboard Silver badge

    Put them all on the sex offenders Register

    Hmmm.

    "Register".

  5. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge
    Childcatcher

    Hmm,

    So admirers of hobby hawks are suspicious.

    Deary me, what has the world come to.

    If you ban innocuous words which are used by some as code words, they will simply use other code words. Ban those, and you will iterate the whole English Dictionary away very soon

    1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

      hobby hawks

      buteobuteo.uk?

    2. yossarianuk

      Re: Hmm,

      This is just silly, Its like Chris Morris has been put in charge.

      However, I heard that people who want a 'Conservative Party' share the most filth that degrades society - ban that phrase for sure.

      By 'Illegal' does that mean weed, wikileaks, Snowden will be filtered?

    3. Rukario
      Big Brother

      Re: Hmm,

      > you will iterate the whole English Dictionary away very soon

      More like the Ninth revision of the Eleventh Edition of the Newspeak Dictionary, in which the only word remaining is "crimethink".

  6. Crisp

    Code Words

    Yet more words that are kept secret from us and would cause a search on Bing to get flagged up.

    Those are our words! (probably, I don't know what they are) Just because some elements of the criminal underworld have co-opted them doesn't make everyone that uses them a criminal.

  7. Spoonsinger

    www.groomers.co.uk

    Stop this filth!

    1. UncleDave
      Coat

      Re: www.groomers.co.uk

      Now with improved Undercoat Raking and Horse Grooming! I shudder to think what Hand Stripping could entail,

    2. JDX Gold badge

      Re: www.groomers.co.uk

      I saw a sign "Dog grooming this way" and was shocked they'd be brazen enough to advertise. Children is bad enough, but dogs?

  8. Lamont Cranston
    Facepalm

    I could see banning offensive words,

    although you then wind up with "scunthorpe" becoming proscribed, so that's probably unworkable, but compiling a list of otherwise innocent words that may (or may not) be used by undesirables to refer to illicit activities? Would this see meow-meow.uk being banned, as it might possibly be a page about mephedrone, rather than kittens?

    Still, maybe paedos are as thick as Nominet seem to think, and forcing them to rethink their vocabulary will drive them off the internet? Mumsnet will be thrilled, I'm sure.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I could see banning offensive words,

      Ah the good okd days of Microsoft chat where using totally innocent words like Scunthorpe or Cockermouth or jaffa cake would get you booted off.

      Has the world learned nothing?

      1. WonkoTheSane

        Re: I could see banning offensive words,

        The world has learned plenty.

        Politicians... not so much.

      2. Crisp

        Re: I could see banning offensive words,

        Why is Jaffa Cake offensive?!?

        Did the Goa'uld put in a complaint?

  9. Pete 2 Silver badge

    Quite the opposite

    > considering rejecting registrations if they feature keywords linked to criminality

    As anyone who's worked with Microchip's PIC processors will know, doing a web search for "pic" throws up millions of pages of garbage [ using the standard internet definition, garbage: anything not related to what I want to see ] and makes the name PIC a positive pain to find stuff for and presumably a liabilty for their marketing department.

    So maybe instead of banning words that, at present have an association with dubious activities, but which tomorrow could have changed their meanings completely and been replaced by other "naughty" words - maybe Nominet should be positively encouraging as many people as possible to register sites with those words, close spellings or them, combinations and other possibile dodgy terms. That way the baddies, to some extent, be thwarted in their quest for naughtiness and might accidentally stumble upon something that's pure and good and right and might learn to mend their evil ways.

    The only problem might be if you find that your mum has logged on to your honeytrap website ...

    1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

      Re: Quite the opposite

      It's an interesting concept, but I can't help feeling that 'pure and good and right' and 'PIC' should not be in the same sentence.

      Thirty-five instructions, and each and every one of them *wrong*!

  10. fridaynightsmoke

    I knew those bastards at "Hobbycraft" were up to no good,

    along with a local supplier of fuels and 'lubricants', "CP Petroleum". We're on to you!!!!1!

  11. OvAl

    They jest surely

    This is pretty bone-headed. I'm sure they can't have thought it through...

    Do they think that banning such words will stymie the pervy perpetrators? As if it's the keywords themselves that carry the power of the act?

    Or is it more likely, as has been suggested above, that new words will be adopted and the world will continue as before.

    Or perhaps I am missing the point, and they merely wish for words tainted by this association not to be present on a url...which seems rather unfair to the 99.9999999% of people who might wish to use them for non-nefarious purposes.

    1. Matt 21

      Re: They jest surely

      Could be any of those but it does at least help in furthering the myth that child abuse is largely carried out by strangers. As opposed to the sad truth that it is mostly family members and family friends who do these things.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: They jest surely

      All it would need is the crims to use some new words like Cameron, Microsoft, Nominet as "secret" codewords for particularly unpleasant acts and the whole concept would get dropped like a hot potato.

      1. JoshOvki
        Devil

        Re: They jest surely

        Or even better, get them to use the word "Google". That what way they won't be able to search for it without brining the who internets down!

      2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: They jest surely

        > Cameron, Microsoft, Nominet as "secret" codewords for particularly unpleasant acts

        Steady on now - even criminals have standards

    3. Steve Renouf
      Facepalm

      Re: They jest surely

      "This is pretty bone-headed. I'm sure they can't have thought it through..."

      Since when did politicians think anything through - that would take far too much time and encroach into "golf time".

  12. ForthIsNotDead

    On the contrary...

    Do not ban such words, especially if they are/could be linked to child molesters. Rather, we should allow them.

    The sites would make great dragnets/honey pots.

  13. sparkeh9
    Joke

    "paedeophiles have code words, such as hobby"

    That's it - I'm never going to hobbycraft again

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Let's go round again...

    ... that's all we'll do if it's a negative opinion on direct .uk registrations again. They'll keep going until we all get sick and tired of telling them what an incredibly bad idea it is and give up and just let them have their way.

  15. Graham Marsden
    Big Brother

    Newspeak...

    ... Double-plus good, Proles!

  16. envmod

    http://www.fiddlerontheroof.co.uk

    dodgy bastards. ban the website AND the play.

    and fiddlers.

  17. Robin Bradshaw

    Shift the offensiveness 1 to the left

    offensive.words.pointlessly.banned.co.uk

  18. Greg 24
    Childcatcher

    Careful what you search for...

    Reminds me of the time my wife was looking for a well known outdoor equipment shop and searched for "blacks"...that's what she claimed anyway.

    1. rurwin

      Re: Careful what you search for...

      There was this time I was looking for a font. I'd got it in TTF and liked it. It was (and is) called Bizzaro. Every glyph is made of one or more strange creatures like something from Italian carnival or a nightmare fairyland.

      Although I had it in TTF, I was writing a book in TeX, well LaTeX to be exact, and that doesn't play nice with TTF. It needs the font to be built specifically for it, and I was wondering if anyone had done the work before.

      So I googled "bizzaro latex".

      The defense rests m'lud.

  19. poopypants

    Does anyone remember

    Pen Island? (http://www.penisland.net/)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Does anyone remember

      Our company firewall blocked "game lan" - until the Java developers screamed about losing access to "gamelan" sites.

      1. Yet Another Commentard

        Re: Does anyone remember

        I believe there is also a psychology website called therapist.com too.

  20. thesykes

    So, are they also going to ban any possibly offensive words that may be French, German, Spanish etc. in origin? Or words that foreigners may find offensive, but, which are perfectly acceptable in English? Maybe foreign language translations of suspect words too?

    Apparently apple is a code word for a mass murderer's next victim. Allegedly. Maybe. Not at all.

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