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The United States of America's Ambassador to Australia has taken to Facebook to protect one of America's critical industries: the making of gory television serials. Jeffrey L Bleich, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary, appears to have noted that Australians are very keen on the HBO series Game of Thrones. Vulture …

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  1. The Axe

    iTunes

    "...despite Game of Thrones now being available on iTunes mere hours after it airs in the USA, for just $AUD2.99 an episode"

    Well there's the problem. Not everyone has an Apple device.

    1. Danny 14
      Joke

      Re: iTunes

      Why not? Are you not patriotic? Perhaps some political re education will sort that out. What do you mean you arent American, that doesn't excuse you from our laws and decrees.

      1. Richard Altmann
        Thumb Down

        Re: iTunes

        Perhaps some political re education will sort that out.

        Yeah, you guys invented the Concentration Camps

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Headmaster

      Re: iTunes

      TYPO

      That should read "not everyone WANTS an Apple device"

      The only good apples are sweet and crunchy.

      (Man with Stealth Bomber hiding on his head)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: iTunes

        Piracy exists in gaps in markets... and it's how entire digital industries have been born.

        Sure, you might have it out on iTunes... that will hit your Apple using demographic. It's also $3.49 for the HD version. Or you could download it now, and buy the DVD/Bluray when that comes out and use the download for mobile devices, including i[Pad/Phone]... prices between digital products from some vendors are too high. Sony, Steam and iTunes are all guilty in some way... you can often pick up a physical version of the same thing for less. I'm sure this reason is shops complain that it's not fair, but sorry... if I want a disk and box, I'll happily pay a bit extra. If I don't, I won't and there is no excuse for this practice.

    3. ducatis'r us

      Re: iTunes

      My question is why is it available on iTtunes in Australia but not in the UK?? BTW obviously you don't need an apple device to run iTunes.....

      1. Great Bu

        Re: iTunes

        It's not available in the UK because Sky have the rights to broadcast it over here.

        1. Peter Jones 2

          Re: iTunes

          I am paying my cable bill in the US, but I'm over in the UK. Torrents allow me to watch something I paid for without weekly international flights.

          No, I'm not having Sky installed, or installing iTunes so I can pay twice for the same show.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: iTunes

            @Peter Jones2

            "No, I'm not having Sky installed, or installing iTunes so I can pay twice for the same show."

            Sounds like you'll be enjoying a re-education session on your return ;)

      2. cs94njw
        FAIL

        Re: iTunes

        OMG if I knew I could pay to watch Game of Thrones for even £2.99, I'd be at it like a shot!

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: iTunes

      iTunes works on Windows too.

      Have happily been using a US iTunes account to watch certain US TV shows on the TV-connected PC for many years now...

      1. alun phillips

        Re: iTunes

        But I don't have windows or MacOS or any apple devices

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: iTunes

          "But I don't have windows or MacOS or any apple devices"

          Not to worry, there's always the DVDs....

    5. Tom Maddox Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: iTunes

      Plus iTunes is shit.

    6. Dropper
      FAIL

      Re: iTunes

      Does that mean because you have no iDevice that makes it okay to steal it, rather than wait for it to be released in other formats? Cool, so you'd be okay if I grabbed a TV from your house if I don't happen to have one of those.. After all its wrong of you to have something I want and not give it to me for free. BTW I like your car better than mine too, I'm taking that as well.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: iTunes

        "Cool, so you'd be okay if I grabbed a TV from your house if I don't happen to have one of those.. "

        No, but you can replicate it if you want.

    7. Anonymous Coward
      Devil

      Re: iTunes

      US Ambassador.

      Stooge Gangster, telling others what the Mob wants us to do.

      Guns, stand over merchants, and murders politely left at home on the first visit.

      US State Dept needs to be renamed to something more sincere, like "We kill you's if you wana fuck wid us."

  2. as2003

    I like this guy!

    Shame I can't get iTunes for linux...

    1. Kevin Johnston

      Re: I like this guy!

      He does seem to be going about this in a much more enlightened way than some. There is no point issuing threats you cannot enforce on even a 'shampoo Advert' sample of the population, far better to speak to people as though they are real people and ask them politely to be good about this.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    For $2.49

    I bought "Great Big War Game" for $2.49 on Steam, spent 100 hours playing it, and really enjoyed it.

    That works out to 25 cents per hour of entertainment.

    When they start selling (or even renting) movies for 50 cents, I might be interested. Until then, I am happy to do without.

    1. bitten
      Pint

      Re: For $2.49

      That's also why I don't drink beer unless it's 50 cents the pint

      1. JetSetJim
        Pint

        Re: Beer for $0.50c

        I assume you homebrew, then? Much cheaper and can produce excellent results

    2. C 18
      Meh

      Re: For $2.49

      $2.49...spent 100 hours playing...works out to 25 cents per hour of entertainment.

      Which by your calculations implies that 10 hours of playing works out at 1 hour of entertainment?

      1. Dr. Mouse
        Coffee/keyboard

        Re: For $2.49

        @C 18:

        "Which by your calculations implies that 10 hours of playing works out at 1 hour of entertainment?"

        You owe me a new keyboard!

    3. peyton?

      Re: For $2.49

      I feel similarly. For music I pay $0.99 for a song that I listen to over and over again. $2.99 for a television episode I'm only going to watch once just feels like a lot. $30 for 1 season of 1 tv show could actually buy me a month of cable TV for probably about 50 channels (though to be fair, it wouldn't include HBO).

      Still, it just doesn't add up.

  4. mt_head
    Go

    Interesting choice of House...

    Lannisters may pay their debts, but except for Tyrion I'm not sure I'd want to be associated with them. I suppose the difference in seasons made "Winter Is Coming" a bit problematic for an American in the Antipodes.

    1. Pat 11

      Re: Interesting choice of House...

      Whatever next, David Cameron encouraging good Tories to remember the values and ethos of Slitherin House?

      Oh, he does that already.

    2. Crisp

      Re: A Lannister always pays his debts

      Yes they do. But as I understand it that motto doesn't always refer to money.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: A Lannister always pays his debts

        Exactly, just ask Kim Dotcom.

    3. Bernard M. Orwell

      Re: Interesting choice of House...

      The Lannisters also practice incest and push nosey children out of windows......

  5. jestersbro
    Trollface

    A Lannister always pays his debts

    and sleeps with his sister.

    1. John Colman
      Stop

      Re: A Lannister always pays his debts

      Spoiler alert!!!

      1. Tom Maddox Silver badge
        Joke

        SPOILERS BELOW!

        Darth Vader is actually Luke's father

        Rosebud was a sled

        Snape kills Dumbledore

        Bruce Willis is actually dead

        The hot girl is actually a man

        The protagonist is Tyler Durden

        Maggie shot Mr. Burns

        Gir was the turkey all along

    2. Ian K

      Re: A Lannister always pays his debts

      The might pay their debts, but Lannisters also aren't entirely against taking what they desire by intrigue or force of arms if circumstances demand.

      I'm guessing that if they had BitTorrent available they wouldn't be too shy about using that either.

      1. Crisp

        Re: Lannisters also aren't entirely against taking what they desire by intrigue or force of arms

        Lann The Clever made off with Casterly Rock (and the lucrative gold mine underneath) by tricking the original owner out of it.

  6. JTMILLER
    Devil

    The show doesn't air "mere" hours after the US, it airs 10.30am on Monday in my local time but it's not usualy available to download from iTunes till Tuesday evening. Plus the playback through iTunes is terrible, if they want people to stop pirating they have to make a platform that is better than what people can get for free in terms of automated downloads (without having to give your password every 5 minutes to apple till it locks your account for logging in too often!) and video quality, plus playing in iTunes has annoying audio/visual syncing issues so you have to pause the episode every 15 minutes so the video can catch up.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      @JTMILLER

      Hmm, I think your comments say more about the shitty state of Australian broadband than any intrinsic issues with iTunes (which for the record, delivers HD quality at least as good as any torrent you're going to find).

      The Australian situation is an interesting test case though; one of the reasons people in the UK claim they torrent GoT is that they otherwise have to buy a full Sky subscription (not always possible, never mind desirable), and that HBO don't make box sets or legit downloads available for a full year after first broadcast. It seems fairly obvious that even if HBO made GoT available on iTunes or LoveFilm the day after release, people would still pirate it, because lets face it, free trumps every other price point.

      (NB. I wonder how many people are like me, have a Sky sub and Sky+ it, but still download each episode for their library anyway?)

      1. Dr. Mouse

        Re: @JTMILLER

        "I wonder how many people are like me, have a Sky sub and Sky+ it, but still download each episode for their library anyway?"

        Add one to that list.

        Disclaimer: I am in no way legally admitting that that one is me.

        1. Tom 38

          Re: @JTMILLER

          I wonder how many people are like me, have a Sky sub and Sky+ it, but still download each episode for their library anyway?

          I don't bother Sky+'ing it. I have a Sky sub so that (as far as I care) it is all above board, but Sky+ is no archive.

      2. ChrisC Silver badge

        Re: @JTMILLER

        " I wonder how many people are like me, have a Sky sub and Sky+ it, but still download each episode for their library anyway?"

        Quite. SkyHD sub here, so I could get stuff like GoT without having to resort to the legally dubious world of torrents, but I don't like my viewing interrupted by ad breaks at the best of times (i.e. when watching some throwaway programme that requires minimal levels of concentration), let alone when I'm watching something as immersive as GoT, so being able to get ad-free copies of such shows is a pretty big deal for me.

  7. Flashy Red

    Not playing their game

    Watched series 1 months before it was made available in the UK. The same for season 2. And again for season 3. I didn't want to wait. I did, however, think the show was SO utterly amazing that I felt compelled to fork out for the blue ray releases of seasons 1 and 2, and I will do the same again for season 3. So, have I been dishonest?

    I really can't be arsed to wait out the glacial pace at which these show get released. I look forward to the day when shows like GoT get released worldwide on disc and on day 1.

    1. Dr. Mouse

      Re: Not playing their game

      My brother does this.

      He does not have a TV. He does not watch live TV. But he does download some TV shows. He feels justified because he buys them as soon as they are available.

      I feel he is justified.

    2. Thomas 4
      Mushroom

      Re: Not playing their game

      This. ^^

      Why the hell do we have to wait best part of a frigging year for a new series to be released on DVD after the Yanks get it a couple of months after airing?

      1. Eric Olson

        Re: Not playing their game

        HBO in general waits nearly a year to put the season out on DVD. Even here in the states.

  8. Idocrase

    What's the big damn deal?

    Apple and Sky can go die in a fire, they're crap, for different reasons but both still offer too little for what they cost (Apple takes your soul, Sky takes your dignity, both take your money).

    So the alternative? Wait a year for it to reach British TV? Erm, no ta.

    Yeah, we acquire the episodes in a less than legal manner. But by the same token, we also have both box sets, and will be getting the other box sets when they EVENTUALLY get released. HBO wants more money from the product? Release the damn box sets a month after the season ends, instead of a week after the new season STARTS.

    1. Great Bu
      Thumb Up

      Apple takes your soul, Sky takes your dignity

      Excellent ! That should be their company mottos.......

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    1. ChrisC Silver badge

      Re: “Don’t Ambassadors Have Anything Better To Do?”

      I always thought their primary role was to act as a global delivery mechanism for approximately spherical foil-wrapped nut-infused blobs of chocolate...

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  11. Andrew Moore

    Big Media needs to examine their marketing methods...

    In the UK GoT is only available on Sky Atlantic, which is a subscription channel only available to those who have signed up to Sky. Many people do not have (or want) this channel, so the only legal method for them to watch the series is to buy the box sets which come out long after the season ends. Or buy it on iTunes episode-by-episode for a lot more than the cost of the box set.

    So in these days of immediate gratification, it means that people are going to use alternative methods to watch it. Which means illegal downloading.

    The only way around this is to make it available through more widely accessible channels (BBC, Channel 4 etc) or stream it for a reasonable price.

    Finally, if I buy the series via iTunes and then download it via a torrent in order to have it on physical media, does that still count as piracy?

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