Good to see product testing is alive and rotting nicely in it's grave ;)
Windows Phone 8 reboot woe causes outpouring of forum misery
Early adopters of Windows Phone 8 hardware are complaining that it reboots at random, up to several times a day, and that they're not being offered any prospect of a quick fix. The complaints relate specifically to the HTC 8X and, to a lesser extent, Nokia's Lumia 920, with Windows Phone 8 locking up or randomly rebooting on …
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Monday 19th November 2012 18:20 GMT ItsNotMe
@ AC @ 12:42 GMT
Re: "What did people expect"
"A quick, stable, interesting alternative to iOS and Android???
Close but no cigar"
Well Sparky...I have had TWO Motorola Droid (one Android Gingerbread & one ICS) phones DO THIS EXACT SAME THING...and had them replaced by Verizon because of it.
Now...number THREE is now starting to do this as well. So it's not exclusive to Windows...sorry.
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Monday 19th November 2012 19:05 GMT The_Regulator
Re: Fanbois!!
Unbelievable trolling on your part dude, sad to see....
Running Lumia 920 since Friday, no reboots, no crashes everything smooth and looking ohhh so sweet.
Dumbass comments on here from you and other android fanbois won't stop a great product!! I can't speak for the 8X but I can for the 920.
Side Note: As a little research project maybe you should take a look at the best phones on amazon.com wireless. Right now I think there might be 6/7 windows phones in the top 10 with the majority having very high ratings from customers. Yes I know thats USA Only but it's an easy place to look early in the shelf life.
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Monday 19th November 2012 11:45 GMT Simbu
My Lumia 920 has been faultless. I suspect this is going to become a largely over-reported problem that a small minority of users will experience.
On the other hand it doesn't excuse the problem but I don't think MS has that arrogance towards users (especially in mobile) any more - so it might actually get fixed promptly!
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Monday 19th November 2012 15:04 GMT Eddy Ito
Re: Reg Readers these days...
"Haha! And to prove my point, who do you think downvoted me there? Actual LOL!"
LOL, ok I'll feed ya. I'm surprised you've only got one down vote so far considering the trollishness of the comment. I guess this second post was because you weren't getting enough to eat. Pity you're not like my Nokia E66 as it only needs to be fed once every ten days or so.
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Monday 19th November 2012 15:55 GMT Simbu
Re: Reg Readers these days...
This almost religious attitude to OS platforms is pathetic and quite frankly hilarious. People seem to think that choosing one over another is 'making a statement'. I choose whatever I think will best suit my needs. If you're judging me on something so insubstantial as what phone I'm carrying around then you're not worthy of my time or attention.
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Monday 19th November 2012 16:07 GMT Ian Michael Gumby
@Simbu It depends....
What do you use your phone for?
Phone Calls? (Yes that's becoming a smaller percentage of time on the phone... ;-)
Emails?
Texts?
Camera?
Surfing the web?
Music App?
Then there's VOIP....
Until you have enough occurrences and enough data of failures, it could be anything. A bad port of an iOS or Android App that causes Microsoft to fail could be the culprit and unless you use said app or class of apps, you don't know what it is.
You can't test for every potential failure. It may just take a 'perfect storm'....
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Monday 19th November 2012 16:12 GMT Simbu
Re: @Simbu It depends....
Actually in my case all of the above, but I think you're concurring with my point - it's a difficult issue to reproduce and on that basis, not many users will be affected.
Nonetheless, MS can't afford the negative publicity, so what might be a fringe-case issue will still get serious attention from MS and the WP8 OEMs.
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Monday 19th November 2012 11:47 GMT Infidellic_
"....and (in the case of Nokia) booting the phone without a SIM for ten minutes, then booting with the SIM back in again, which apparently worked for one user"
I can't help but read these anecdotal "solutions" and wonder if I put "Sacrificing my first born to our Lord and Saviour the almight Satan worked for me" whether people would believe it could be an actual solution as much as the faith they put in these generally baseless techniques.
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Monday 19th November 2012 12:14 GMT Velv
Be careful what you post!
While I love your sarcasm, sadly there are far too many people on this planet who believe their God is better than all the others and that anecdotal evidence is widely accepted as gospel (and I'm not limiting this to technology solutions).
Clearly none of them has ever heard of Science, and a logical approach where you change ONE thing at a time in a repeatable manner before you start proclaiming you've found the answer to life the universe and 42.
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Monday 19th November 2012 15:17 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Be careful what you post!
"Seriously, I doff my cap in respect to another voice of sanity in this wilderness inhabited by various *bois"
You respect someone who veers from talking about problems with mobile phones into a moan about religion? Would you want this guy sat next to you in the pub/tube/bus? Especially between you and the exit?
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Monday 19th November 2012 16:08 GMT Anonymous Coward
@Infidellic
You must be Catholic then...
Sorry, I'm thinking back to the segment in Monty Python's "Meaning of Life" where the Protestant can use condom but the poor Catholic sod couldn't because the Pope says no to contraceptive.
Note: I'm not judging, just saying...
Anon, because I do know that there are religious zealots who would take my comment the wrong way.
Just Saying!
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Monday 19th November 2012 11:49 GMT iGoto
Brings back memories I had with my WP7 (HTC - HD7)...
That time it was a problem with the Zune music player freezing up during playback of DRM'd music. Required a battery remove/refit - power button didn't even work. The support thread ran into literally hundreds of pages and it took about 5 months for us to get a fix from HTC. I swore then that I'd a) Never go back to HTC because they didn't seem to have the motivation to fix it and b) never be an early adopter again.
For what it's worth, I still have my WP7 and I'm very pleased with it and has been rock solid since we got the fix. No immediate plans to upgrade to WP8 just yet though, want to see how responsive MS/HTC/Nokia are at getting these issues fixed. If this rolls on for longer than a couple of weeks or so then that will justify my hesitation to upgrade. Will be interesting to see how fast they get a fix out.
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Monday 19th November 2012 11:57 GMT dave 100
"The problem isn't universal, though if reboots are intermittent and rare users may not be reporting them - unless it interrupts something one is doing then a reboot isn't very disruptive."
Or say, you have a sim passcode, and then you just have no calls until you next look at the phone. Then it is a big deal.
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Monday 19th November 2012 16:08 GMT Ian Michael Gumby
Funny...
But I have had my Apple 4S reboot on its own. Of course I wasn't in the middle of anything and I don't usually turn my phone off, so I have to wonder if there's a memory leak or something that just takes time to cause it to kill my phone.
Again, it could be nothing, or it could be the combination of apps that I run.
Were it frequent and stopping me from using my phone, you can bet that I'd dump it and go to another phone ASAP. (In all honesty, I'd consider a Nokia, not that I'm a window's guy, but that it's price point with contract, and the solid build makes sense. )
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Monday 19th November 2012 12:15 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: duh
If Windows was so bad then industry would grind to a halt. Given the 90% plus marketshare of Windows on the desktop you can't really justify that remark without providing some figures or estimates on improved productivity if everyone used Linux.
Many organisations have tried to move their office desktops to Linux and have ended up going back to Windows.
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