back to article BOFH: Shove your project managementry up your mailbox!

"So it's agreed then. You'll codify the project and I'll reach out to the developers for the SDK that you need?" the latest IT project manager asks. "By 'codify' you mean I'll write the program and by 'reach out' you mean email?" I respond. "Yes." "Why not just say email?" "I... because I might phone them." "So why not …

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  1. Martin 47

    Hmmmm I can think of lots of meetings that would have been improved by the judicious use, er make that indiscriminate use of a cricket bat.

    1. Callam McMillan
      Coffee/keyboard

      Cricket bats are a bit unwieldy... Baseball bats on the other hand would be quite effective!

      1. TeeCee Gold badge

        There's no edge on a baseball bat........

      2. Iftikar
        Alert

        Re Callam

        Now I find that a good rounders bat is a decent compromise - it's short enough that you can get a decent amount of power from a short swing, plus it's more easily concealable :)

        1. Blitterbug
          Mushroom

          Re: a good rounders bat ...

          In other words, a baseball bat

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        The type of bat doesn't matter...

        ...so much as how many nails it has in it.

      4. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Cricket bats versus baseball bats

        While baseball bats may be more comfortable to use, they lack the depth of sound that a cricket bat provides when the PM is dispatched to the boundary....

        1. Field Marshal Von Krakenfart
          Mushroom

          Re: Cricket bats versus baseball bats

          While baseball bats may be more comfortable to use, they lack the depth of sound that a cricket bat provides

          Oh I don't know about that now, the 'oul aluminium (ah-lumi-mun to 'merkins) baseball makes a pleasant sound when it strikes something.

          My own personal favourite is a 6lb copper faced dead blow hammer, the copper face is particularly useful as it doesn't create sparks which could accidentally set fire to the PM's petrol soaked clothes.

        2. lawndart

          Re: Cricket bats versus baseball bats

          Point of clarification, please;

          Is it still counted as a four if only part of the PM crosses the boundary?

          What about if the part that does cross the boundary is not attached to the rest?

          1. Captain Scarlet
            Facepalm

            Re: Cricket bats versus baseball bats

            Wish I had some cricket bats, all I am allowed in this H&S culture is a padded baseball thingy.

            Even then when using it I have to raise near miss forms and then have someone assess and say how it can be avoided :(

          2. Stephen W Harris

            Re: Cricket bats versus baseball bats

            The rules of cricket say "the ball" has to cross the boundary, not part of it. Thus the whole PM needs to cross. If the ball splits in half then the umpire must signal a dead ball. If the PM splits in half then the PM is declared DOA at the hospital.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: Cricket bats versus baseball bats

              "The rules of cricket say "the ball" has to cross the boundary, not part of it. Thus the whole PM needs to cross. If the ball splits in half then the umpire must signal a dead ball. If the PM splits in half then the PM is declared DOA at the hospital."

              Well if "the ball" has to cross the boundary, the only part of the PM which has to cross is his testicle. The rest is irrelevant, attached or otherwise.

              What if the PM has two testicles? He doesn't, because all PMs are Hitlers, and Hitler has only got one ball (the other is in the Albert Hall). Oh look, Godwin's Law!

              What if the PM is female? Same rules apply: all PMs are Hitlers and therefore have one ball.

        3. Aremmes

          Re: Cricket bats versus baseball bats

          An aluminium baseball bat will produce a thoroughly satisfying *PING* when impacted upon a miscreant's head.

          http://bit.ly/ON0jFs

          1. Mike Flugennock

            Re: Cricket bats versus baseball bats

            An aluminium baseball bat will produce a thoroughly satisfying *PING* when impacted upon a miscreant's head...

            Maybe it's a generational thing, but I always thought the sound of an aluminum bat rather wimpy. For my money, there's nothing like the sound of a good old ash Louisville Slugger catching the ball (or a PM's head) right on the sweet spot, about halfway between the label and the tip of the bat -- that "home run sound" as many ballplayers like to call it.

      5. Chika
        Coffee/keyboard

        A cricket bat is fine if you know how to use it.

        Personally, however, I'm a bigger fan of the big stick with a nail through it (not sure how that translates into Project Management-ese, and that's a fact of which I am pretty proud of!)

        1. Irongut

          Aye ye cannae beat a dod o wood wi a nail thru it.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Or as Clint said...

            "I do love a good piece of hickory"

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: Or as Clint said...

              Correction:

              "Nothing like a good piece of hickory."

              (It's been a while since my last good Spaghetti Western party.)

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          stick and nail

          That would be the incentivizing corrective action implement

        3. Marshalltown
          Pint

          Best not assume

          I had a fellow take a swing - two actually - at me with a stick with a nail through it. He connected neither time. After I took the stick away from him and removed the nail from it - converted it to toothpicks more or less, he concluded I might be a bit irritated and ran like a hare. I didn't even put him in the hospital.

        4. Tom7
          Pirate

          These all have their place, no doubt, but I find them a bit unwieldy in the confined space of a typical meeting room.

          Consider the advantages a good half brick has to offer. Easily concealed in a laptop bag, where it could be mistaken for a power supply. Still heavy enough that it can do serious damage at the end of a round-arm hay-maker. Easily wielded, no matter how constricted the space or how close the consultant has managed to get. And so easily blameable on the builders doing modifications down the corridor.

          "There's been a terrible accident! He's tripped and hit his head on this half brick the builders left lying around..."

          Bring two of them and you have a "competitive tendering process" ready-made.

      6. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        The cricket bar, an elegant weapon from a bygone age - not as clumsy or random as a shotgun

    2. Matthew 3

      You may like the Basic Instructions logo

      Another site, with 'toons, that has the right attitude towards user support. Link

      1. perlcat
        Pint

        @ Matthew 3

        "Humpification process". Heh.

        His instructions were a tad unclear, though...

        imgur.com/gallery/J7HSN

    3. Fatman

      RE: indiscriminate use of a cricket bat.

      Nah!! Not me.

      I would suggest the indiscriminate use of an electric cattle prod.

  2. Filippo Silver badge

    Oh God, I have a client that's exactly like that.

    1. Captain Scarlet
      Pirate

      He attacked you for planning a project and adding in lots of extra stuff

      Well i hope you have a good health care package!

  3. RainForestGuppy

    Reminds me ..

    of a line lfrom the Chris Morris' Day-to-Day.

    In response to a managment consultant...

    "Do you have a Armitage Shanks defecation interface experience, or do you take sh*t like the rest of us?"

    1. John I'm only dancing

      Re: Reminds me ..

      Among the many pearls of wisdom from Chris Morris.. a true genius

    2. TeeCee Gold badge

      Re: Reminds me ..

      I came out with one here a while back:

      "A verbal representation paradigm for exanguination incidents and their postulated relationships with previously established facts."

      Or, put more simply, "stating the bleedin' obvious with loads of wankwords".

  4. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

    Hahahaaaa

    OK, this one I must preserve.

    It deserves to be a chapter in the next PRINCE II manual ..

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Hahahaaaa

      I appreciate its a tech have a bash at PMs site. But this is somewhat bollocks and doesnt align anything like to PRINCE2. The PM doesnt write the business mandate or magic their own budget. It would be the business dictating these and agreeing to the project deliverables, cost and timescales.

      Part of the PMs job is to break down all the bullshit that techs and marketing people love, into what people can understand and deliver.

      So yeah a good laugh but not reality at all and you would just look like a tool in front of a professional PM.

      1. Circadian
        Unhappy

        Re: Hahahaaaa (@ac 12:56)

        Really? Really??? Do you really, seriously, honestly-cross-that-shrivelled-thing-that-might-be-a-heart believe that Project Managers actually add anything (except time and misery) to a project. Wow. That's... touching. Really touching.

        "...align anything like to PRINCE2" - and you claim to try to make things understandable?

        "The PM doesnt write the business mandate or magic their own budget" - or, um, do anything useful?

        Maybe I'm unlucky and have never worked under a decent project manager. Or the majority of PMs are genuinely crap at anything other than marketing doublespeak.

    2. Anonymous Coward 15

      Re: Hahahaaaa

      The project management methodology formerly known as...

  5. David Haig
    Pint

    Thank you Simon - Crap week, great Friday now!

  6. K
    Thumb Up

    BoFH rides again..

    Brilliant... Just when I thought BoFH was losing his edge..

    Perfect way to start my Friday morning.

  7. Chris Miller

    What do you mean

    'new wave of project managers'? Didn't they always talk crap??

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: What do you mean

      Yes it's always been like that.

      The technical brief, "put one less rock on each layer until you come to a point" - became in management speak:

      Bird with squiggly line, man walking sideways, man with dog head ....... and so on....

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Thumb Up

      Re: Didn't they always talk crap?

      Oh yes, this is ten to twenty years out of date.

      But, none-theless, the best BOFH story for about 18 months. Brilliant.

    3. Marshalltown
      Devil

      Re: What do you mean

      Well sure. That's why they call it a BM degree. Still, each new generation likes to think they are talking all new, more effective crap.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Business-ese

    Arrghh every time I hear the new phrase for 'email' - "reach out and touch base", I keep thinking of the start of Depeche Mode's Personal Jesus.

    "Low hanging fruit" I keep thinking of them in the garden of eden. Arrgghh mine eyes!

    "I'm all over this project" conjures up images of the speaking party as a spider splicer.

    Since when did excel spreadsheets become artefacts? Sounds like something from an Indiana Jones film.

    I dread to think if these people ever tried to build a house - A homo sapien container implementation with interfaced functional area componentry, implemented in brick.

    1. Peter Scott
      Devil

      Re: Business-ese

      Low hanging fruit - the ones dogs have pissed on

      Blue sky thinking - don't understand the issue in question

      Think outside the box - you're clearly in the wrong box

      1. Chika
        Mushroom

        Re: Business-ese

        Low hanging fruit - What you aim at with the stick

        Blue Sky Thinking - We used to call them Airheads

        Think outside the box - Because you surely aren't able to when you are inside it

      2. Mike Flugennock

        Re: Business-ese

        "Think outside the box" was a rather cool expression for about a week; then, suddenly, everybody and their cat was using it.

        Nowadays, it's one of my favorite expressions because I can use it to determine whether or not someone's had a single original thought in their lives. As soon as they say "think outside the box", I can be fairly sure that nothing else they say is worth listening to.

    2. Evil Auditor Silver badge

      Re: "touch base"

      How much I loathe this! My usual answer to 'let's touch base' was: 'fuck all will I do! And keep your hand of me.'

      Yes, that was at a time my leaving was already in sight.

  9. John I'm only dancing

    Bullshit bingo

    Management speak is why use one normal word when you can use a rare concoction of meaningless drivel which only appeals to other managers.

  10. Nick Ryan Silver badge

    Hahaha, far too many of us will have been in these meetings sometimes. Only one thing, other than non-mindless violence of course, for meetings like this: Bullshit Bingo!

  11. Jedit Silver badge
    Big Brother

    "Simon"?

    C'mon, we all know it's Charlie Stross under a pen name. We have the evidence.

    1. phuzz Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: "Simon"?

      You know that Bob Howard*'s middle names are Oliver, Francis?

      1. Jedit Silver badge
        Devil

        Re: "Simon"?

        Indeed, and at one point he had a junior assistant whose initials were PFY.

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