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As of now all Reg readers with five or more posts accepted for publication can create topics in our new El Reg forums. We have made this easier to find: the signpost link is in the secondary nav bar on the front page. At the same time we've opened simple HTML formatting to all commenters who have had five posts accepted for …

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  1. Chris 3
    Facepalm

    Delicious irony?

    In the table that illustrates how simple HTML is compared with markdown, you seem to have made an error in the HTML.

    Or was that the joke?

    1. Aaron Em

      Re: Delicious irony?

      Little of both, I suspect; the author was clever enough to use &lt; entities in place of opening angle brackets, but the CMS wasn't clever enough to notice that and not attempt to convert the ampersands, so the result was &amp;lt; which renders as &lt; instead of < .

      Simple!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        I shall leave formatting jokes in the capable hands of Verity Stob

        Aaron Em, you guess right.

        The table is for visual purposes only. Our CMS is not clever enough - or too clever - and wants to render all correctly formed html. Hence the &lt;

        And on the stupid side - table looked lovely in our CMS preview - and I was not clever enough to spot before it went live. Fixed

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    2. Godwhacker

      Re: Delicious irony?

      Well, it's consistent- now BBCode is off, none of the examples they've given will work.

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  2. Alex Walsh

    Could you bring back the <blink>blink</blink> tag. Purleeease? :D

    1. craigj

      and...

      the <marquee>marquee tag</marquee> Pretty Purleeease? :D

      1. Crisp
        Flame

        Re: and...

        The marquee tag doesn't exist. And has never existed. Any memory you may think you have of it is an alcohol induced hallucination.

        I also plan to eliminate from the world, anyone that has ever used the blink tag.

  3. stuartnz
    Meh

    Not quite there, drat!

    Everything seems eminently sensible to me, but I'm a little miffed at having to wait a bit to be able to create a topic. Even though I first posted here in '07 apparently, and have a fairly decent upvote/downvote ratio (54/4), I am not yet at 100 posts. On every web communication outlet I use, I try to live by David Byrne's mantra "when I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed". Is El Reg trying to tempt me into posting just for the sake of it, so that I can get my tally to that magical ton?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Not quite there, drat!

      Stuart have you tried to create a topic? You can create topics after 5 posts, not 100.

      The 100 bar is for hotlinks.

      1. stuartnz
        Facepalm

        Re: Not quite there, drat!

        D'Oh! That sort of doltishness is why I've only just cracked 50 posts. Sorry about that, and thanks for the cluestick.

    2. Andus McCoatover
      Windows

      Re: Not quite there, drat!

      You could post something worth viewing, or 'Get a Life'. (JOKE!). Or, like me, be unemployed, and have bugger all to do at the pub. (ah...)

      Nonetheless, I've upvoted you to help you achieve the coveted Holy Grail of the Sofa Potato.

      (I'm at over 830 upvotes, but I wonder if there's gonna be a 'special prize' for the number of downvotes... Sarah Bee, come back, all is forgiven!)

      1. stuartnz
        Happy

        Re: Not quite there, drat!

        "The Holy Grail of the Sofa Potato" - sounds like something that might appear on a Chesterfield in the middle of the pitch at Lord's - I look forward to attaining it.

  4. prefect42
    Facepalm

    If you can't handle HTML...

    ...work for the reg?

    A nice way to follow on from saying "If you can’t handle using simple HTML, then in our house you don’t get to use the basic formatting tools." is to put &lt;/b> and &lt/i> in the table...

  5. Haku

    Great

    but can you get shot of the stupid curved arrow that indicates a post is a reply to someone elses post in favour of the original grey bar?

  6. JDX Gold badge

    I'm happy enough using HTML but...

    ... your justification is laughable. HTML may be the web standard, but BB is the standard on forums. The problem is that El Reg is suffering from NIH Syndrome :)

    1. Aaron Em

      Re: I'm happy enough using HTML but...

      So HTML was invented by the Reg, then? Good to know...

    2. Malcolm 1

      Re: I'm happy enough using HTML but...

      I knew El Reg was influential, but I didn't know they invented HTML.

      1. John Gamble
        Joke

        Re: I'm happy enough using HTML but...

        It was a demo by Verity Stob, who used Delphi to do the work. I've no idea why she signed her rights over to El Reg.

  7. Ian Ferguson

    Next

    how about some nice dynamic html to record post up/down votes without opening a new page. Most comment systems manage it now.

    Or just use a standard plugin that uses social media logins, instead of coding your own.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Next

      Check out the El Reg Forums roadmap. It's on the list.

      1. Aaron Em

        Just a quick comment

        to register my delight with third-party social media login not being on the map at all. Hate to think I'd have to put up with facefuckery in order to do my shit-stirring.

        1. J. Cook Silver badge
          Go

          Re: Just a quick comment

          That, and quite a lot of work places have a content proxy/filter server (aka 'nanny filter') to keep people from wasting productive work hours on failbook, including mine.

          (while I'm immune to it, being the admin of said nanny filter, It does please me that not everyone wants to jump in bed with failbook's broken single sign on.)

  8. Real Ale is Best

    My obligatory comment to see if I've reached 100 posts yet.

    It would appear not :-(

    Tags: Please could we have <pre> and some way of quoting other people's posts?

    1. jai

      Re: My obligatory comment to see if I've reached 100 posts yet.

      quote: Tags: Please could we have <pre> and some way of quoting other people's posts?

      i was going to put "+1 for <quote> request"

      but then i realised that it is really a bbcode type tag, there isn't an equivalent html tag that could be used is there.

      best i can think of is to italicise the quote.

      I think, if you have to manually format your quote, that's a good way of stopping some quotetard from putting gobloads of a post's text in a quote and then just typing "me too" afterwards.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Re: My obligatory comment to see if I've reached 100 posts yet.

        El Reg Forums roadmap

      2. Mage Silver badge
        Paris Hilton

        Re: My obligatory comment to see if I've reached 100 posts yet.

        Quotes? Of course there is an HTML

        HTML blockquote tag - W3Schools

        <blockquote> Here is a long quotation here is a long quotation here is a long quotation here is a long quotation here is a long quotation here is a long quotation ...</blockquote>

      3. Tasogare

        Re: My obligatory comment to see if I've reached 100 posts yet.

        @jai

        HTML has <blockquote>, if I remember right. Would that suit?

        Also, here's another vote for <pre>. Even though I probably won't ever post there. (I hate web forums. And comment threads, actually. NNTP FTW.)

      4. John G Imrie

        Re: My obligatory comment to see if I've reached 100 posts yet.

        I think <blockquote> is what you are looking for

    2. Parax

      Re: My obligatory comment to see if I've reached 100 posts yet.

      Your at 101 actually...

      http://forums.theregister.co.uk/user/33304/

      1. Real Ale is Best
        Facepalm

        Re: My obligatory comment to see if I've reached 100 posts yet.

        Your at 101 actually...

        laughs Umm, yes I just noticed that! Easily confused this morning.

        The text in the post edit box still says plain text only no HTML though.

        1. Parax

          Re: My obligatory comment to see if I've reached 100 posts yet.

          Yes. it lies! As usual any update results in more to update elsewhere!

  9. jai

    uh oh

    now that El Reg is an official forum website as well as a news site, i wonder how long before it gets blocked entirely by our office websense filtering :(

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: websense filtering

      Does the site get blocked now - or only some stories?

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    More Tags..

    <MontyBurns> Excellent.. < /MontyBurns>

  11. Greg J Preece

    Fluid width comments! You beautiful people, I've been wanting that for ages. The previous stuff looked kinda silly on a 1080p monitor.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Page width comments - we should have 'em but ...

      Sorry to disappoint, Greg. We ripped out the right hand side for Site News announcements. The RHS is a buffer elsewhere - I think.

    2. Aaron Em

      And one sentence stretched across the entire display doesn't?

  12. TRT Silver badge

    I just want...

    a couple of Star Trek icons and a hyperlink back to my original comment so I can easily find replies.

  13. Steven Raith
    Thumb Up

    Ooh, taggy goodness

    Sounds like a right sack of crap ripe for abuse a great idea.

    Tee hee.

    Steven R

  14. Evil Auditor Silver badge

    What the fuck is BBCode

    That's the reason for not using it.

    1. Aaron Em

      Re: What the fuck is BBCode

      It's what children use instead of HTML.

      1. BristolBachelor Gold badge
        Thumb Up

        Re: What the fuck is BBCode

        "It's what children use instead of HTML."

        Where is the hidden Upvote 100 times button?

  15. Bakunin
    Angel

    "HTML is the open standard of the web. Deal with it, bitches."

    Quote of the week. Fantastic.

    So when's the El Reg branded T-shirt coming out?

  16. Jerome 0

    That all sounds pretty reasonable... so reasonable, in fact, that it makes me wonder why bbcode was invented in the first place.

  17. Mage Silver badge
    Headmaster

    BB code is retarded. It was before CMS systems had decent HTML sanitising. A lot of forums use WYSIWYG editors anyway. Mostly it simply replaces < with [ and has a bunch of different ways according to extension for Tables and other stuff beyond basic,

    Also HTML allows for easier Copy & Paste from existing source.

  18. James Anderson

    thankyou google

    Went to try this out and discovered my Android keyboard does not have &lt; or &gt;

    1. Davidmb

      They're just hidden, usually

      Switch to number keyboard (12# button) then second page (1/2 button). There they are, along with the £ sign!

      Long-winded and might not work with every phone.

  19. Admiral Grace Hopper
    Thumb Up

    Right choice

    (But whatever you choose to do will be wrong for someone).

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