Still down...
It's still down as of 12:41pm (Orange PAYG).
Occasionally it will work for maybe 5 minutes, then drops for another 45 minutes or so..,,
BlackBerry Messenger is down again, despite RIM's assurances that everything would be fine. It seems lots of people can't get connected and partners are receiving notifications about ongoing problems. Despite the fact that the Canadian company has replaced the failing core switch, the service fell down yet again, leaving many …
This is an awful cock up on their part and shows how relient BB users are on one infrastructure set. I would still say that even bes express provides more granular control of a business device than an android/iphone or windows phone can with exchange active sync. I support both and I dont have to worry much about BB's where I worry all the time about active sync connected phones and there app happy end users.
Unless RIM go horribly bust and everything dies I still dont see a more secure/controllable way of providing email/messaging to the business users.
While i don't disagree entirely, i don't see active sync as the hole riddled mess you agonise about.
Their policy tools allow enough granularity of control to be safe but most deployments i have seen go for the bare minimums for the sake of an elusive user-friendliness. (Eg why allow any as-capable phone to carry the data and not limit it to 2-3 types vetted by it?)
In the end, both devices are equally susceptible to the greatest vulnurability of them all; user complacency.
And even though it will make IT's life much harder, bb's are falling behind in ever increasing speeds. They're safe allright, but also underspecced to painful extremes and badly priced to boot.
BES express needed a different server (well VS) all to itself as it moaned about the DC, moaned about exchange 2010, its also a resource hog too (to say it is an express version). Even after installing it and we had it running it couldnt work properly with exchange 2010. Imap is not a substitute no matter what the techies at RIM say. Anyway, after the service pack (a good 5 months later) it eventually worked but still drops out far more than activesync (which needs the odd reboot of devices maybe once a week)
Activesync on our venerable windows 6.1 devices have worked flawlessly. Out 6.5 works fine and our sony x10 xperia work fine. All with exchange 2010 using activesync. Hell, even employees with iphones havent had an issue.
"Unless RIM go horribly bust and everything dies I still dont see a more secure/controllable way of providing email/messaging to the business users."
Have a look at Good for Enterprise from Good Technology for you "app happy" end users. It provides a encrypted, sandboxed environment for corporate email, secure intranet browser, contacts and calendar integration with Exchange and Domino on iOS, Android, Symbian and Windows Mobile. RIM actually paid Good $200m+ to license the architecture, so if you are familiar with the BES architecture, Good won't be a problem for you.
You can kiss goodbye to active sync...
Seriously, if you're not going with BB why would you want to recreate the 3rd-party hosted dependency of RIM's infrastructure?
For ActiveSync capable devices the hot ticket these days seems to be MobileIron, Airwatch or Boxtone. I have seen a few clients go with Good, but the $/value just doesn't seem to be there for most.
Not happy with the biased phrase "making the iPhone an increasingly attractive alternative". Sure it might be, but I'm pretty sure that if RIM permanently pulled the plug tomorrow a lot of it's customers would move to Android or Windows too.
Disclaimer: I don't yet have any SmartPhone nor a favourite among them. Still considering EITHER iPhone, Android 4 or the next wave of Nokia Windows phones or just..... not getting any :P
You know, for a while I'd been slating RIM constantly for the trash that is the torch, for their idiotic decisions regarding app dev for he PlayBook - they gave me the one I'm using for free - and for their general inability to be as awesome as they were when I got my first one six-odd years back.
Now, though I have flip-flopped to an irrational loyalty. I mean, seriously, can't catch a break! So, their software doesn't make things scroll right, and their app world has as many games total as the iphone has backgammon clones, and their CEOs are insane, and their code signing tool will delete your whole hard drive if you put in 'C:\' instead of 'C:\bbkeys\. What company -doesn't- have a few of those problems?
It's prejudice, I tell you. Prejudice.
Until I can get an iPhone free, on a cheapo contract - say £15/month over 2 years ot wont be that attractive.
Saying that I may go 'droid when this curve 3g gives up the ghost or VM need to bribe me further not to take my viewing to sky (last year was the blackberry for £12 a month this year a V+ box for nowt).
I'm not willing to pay more than a couple of cases of cider a month for any phone.
I do like my iPod Touch as a toy/imdb viewer/ebook reader though.
"Like a drunk in denial, RIM keeps telling us it is absolutely fine, before staggering around for a bit and finally collapsing in an unresponsive heap"
Presumably, RIM will soon release a statement telling us that they love us, that we are their best mate, before challenging us all to a fight and ending with a few rambling lines from 'We Are the Champions'.
People survived well before this tech, why is it so difficult to adjust. Oh right thats it, jump on to the Apple Cloud. I'm waiting for that to trip as well.
With my nokia 8210, i can make calls and receive them. I'm sure your blackberry can too. Just use that feature!
Also great customer service.
...The "I don't want this product, therefore nobody should" gambit. How about, "I'm on an inssanely loud trade show floor, can't leave, and can't talk voice'? How about, "I'm in an insanely quiet library / car / etc and can't speak'? Or any other of a gadzillion reasons one might not want to 'just usethe voice feature'.
Your requirements are not the same as others'. It is not a requirement for other people to act like you in order to be, well, whatever it is you want them to be. Deal with it.
Dunno what the fuss is all about - my BB has been functioning normally all week - including email. I heard about some apparent problems with RIM's infrastructure, so I've had webmail open in the background on my work PC, but the phone has continued to receive email sometimes even before webmail has noticed it.
Could be that I run my own email server though - I don't rely on an enterprise server - although it is still RIM's core service which pops the account on my mailserver and pushes to my phone...
The line "and making the iPhone appear an increasingly attractive alternative" is somewhat misplaced as the keyboard is such a big feature for Blackberry.. customers are more likely to switch to Android or even WinPhone7 rather than an Apple.
Makes Microsoft's assertion "..we could be No3.." look prophetic
...with such teeny, tiny keys? That's the reason why BB was defo out for me...and why would I want to lug around something where half the real estate is tied up with tiny little keys where trying to press one presses 5 or 6 around it?
I'm no Apple-fanboi by any means but I do have to admit that their soft keyboard (portrait AND landscape) were pretty "key" for me (yeah, sorry).
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