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Another two Matrix films may be leaping into cinemas, the Grauniad shrugs. The curiously youthful Keanu Reeves, star of the Matrix trilogy and of an exceptionally lame meme told an audience at the London School of Performing Arts that he may be getting back into Neo's slinky strides once again. Excitable source El Nino told …

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  1. Annihilator
    Alert

    Remove 2/3 from canon

    Maybe they're removing the original Reloaded and Revolutions from canon, and actually doing them properly in a manner that doesn't make me want to tear my brain out through my eyes?

    Can't see how else Reeves would be in it - even though there are numerous "ones", presumably they looked different each time, other wise it would be a lot easier to find them as they'd have a picture of him from last time.

    1. CaptainHook

      Reeves

      If you remember the meeting with the Architect in front of all the TV screens, all the "Ones" looks like Reeves, even down to the clothes he wears - although his reaction to being told what is happening seem to be different each time

      The Matrix needed Neo to make the decision and has effectively scripted all the events that lead up to that decision (save trinity or destroy the matrix) and therefore doesn't actually want to catch him, the humans have no idea that the matrix is being looped and replayed endlessly and so can't know what Neo looks like.

      1. Darryl

        So they could FIX the second two

        Just do the second two over again, but set them in another time period with one of the other 'ones' and then redo the two sequels with things like, you know, a script and acting and other things that weren't in the original sequels. Oh, and as well as removing the sex scene (or at least replacing it with a plausible one) also remove the long drawn out totally unnecessary "dance orgy" thing.

        Oh, and do it 3D if you must, but PLEASE give us the option of going and seeing it in 2D if we prefer, or I'll have to wait for it to come out on DVD like I'm doing with the Green Hornet.

      2. Jason DePriest
        Linux

        allow me to retort

        Those were all the current "one" and his possible reactions to what the Architect was telling him.

      3. Annihilator
        Boffin

        @CaptainHook

        All the "Ones" on the screens are the possible reactions the Architect has calculated, not the previous versions. There had only been 5 previous "Ones" - Neo was the 6th.

        At the start of each cycle/Matrix, the One was tasked to select sixteen females and seven males to repopulate Zion, with the implication that he would repopulate with them. Morpheus mentioned that before the previous One died, he had told them he would be reborn one day. Presumably they'd have a picture of him in that case.. Or look for the guy with an anagram of "one" (Maybe the next one will be called Oen, or Eon..)

  2. Gabor Laszlo
    Happy

    Dezionized

    There is a fanedit out there called The Matrix Dezionized (what it says on the tin) thatmolds 2 and 3 into a tense and enjoyable whole. The sex scene was also cut.

  3. Bill Cumming
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    In bigger news...

    Keanu is all in to do "Bill & Ted" 3

    I'm hoping for a Bill & Ted Matrix crossover movie!! ^_^

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Unhappy

      What number are we thinking of?

      I think he was joking. Sadly.

  4. Mystic Megabyte

    what?

    I'm having a feeling of déjà vu!

  5. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
    Megaphone

    Why not adapt The Difference Engine?

    The Matrix with Steam and Brass.

    And no fights.

    And a story.

    1. Expat Paul
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      The Difference Engine

      Now that *would* be worth seeing

    2. annodomini2

      thing is....

      Will it end up like the difference engine, half finished?

    3. Aaron Em

      Oh, yeah, steampunk

      Because hot-gluing a handful of old pocketwatch parts to it makes anything better!

    4. Tom Maddox Silver badge
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      And, best of all

      No Keanu.

  6. DJ 2
    Joke

    Matrix was an awesome movie,

    http://xkcd.com/566/

    Shame they never made any sequels.

    1. D@v3
      Thumb Up

      further proof

      that there really is an xkcd for every occasion

      1. Anonymous Bastard
        Thumb Up

        XKCD!

        It's the new Farside and Randall Munroe is the new Gary Larson.

        1. Francis Boyle Silver badge

          re:XKCD!

          Please: Gary Larson had about three jokes* recycled endlessly. Randall Monroe on the other hand manages to think up at least three new jokes each week.

          *Wouldn't it be funny if animals were doing this,wouldn't it be funny if cavemen were doing this and the other one.

    2. Bob H
      Grenade

      Can I propose a little protest?

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/board/nest/177171950

      Bob

    3. Christian Berger

      Re: Matrix was an awecome movie

      @DJ 2: It pales in comparison to the original "Welt am Draht". Unlike "Matrix" it made sense and was made almost without any special effects.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6iHOglB4A

  7. Expat Paul
    Stop

    The title is required, and must contain letters and/or digits.

    "Keanu stated that he still has an obligation to the fans to deliver a movie worthy of the title 'The Matrix'"

    Don't feel obliged, Keanu. Really. Don't.

  8. Real Ale is Best
    Stop

    XKCD says it all.

    http://xkcd.com/566/

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Coat

    Hurrah!

    Hurrah! I've been waiting for sequals since the last film came out in 1999!

  10. Robert E A Harvey
    Unhappy

    Yawn

    yawn.

  11. King Jack

    Robot Chicken

    Robot Chicken sums it up best. Season 5 episode 3.

  12. Some Beggar
    WTF?

    "the first film that made brains go pop all over the world"

    Really? It's a great action movie but it's hardly intellectually taxing. Any brains that popped were probably not worth preserving.

    1. asdf
      Flame

      an even earlier bigger head popper

      Jacob's Ladder 1990. Also Total Recall could have been if the ending would have been like it should, with some everyday normal schlep getting out of the dream chair at the very end.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Heart

        @asdf re:Jacob's Ladder

        I know what I'll be watching again tonight when I get home.

        F**king AMAZING film!

  13. Steven Knox
    Flame

    "new not-so-shit 3D"

    Do you mean actually new and actually not-shit, not "advertised as not-shit but still shit" like the current crop of 3D shit we have today, or do you mean that you're peddling today's shit 3D as "not-so-shit", in which case I have to ask -- Really?

    <-- in 3D!

  14. disgruntled yank

    eh?

    Saw only the 2nd, thought it pegged the bogometer about 5 minutes in...

  15. Bunker_Monkey
    Jobs Horns

    Neo, with an iMatrix?

    Why do I get the feeling that Apple will be doing a bit of drop in advertising if this goes ahead..??? Please dont feel obilged Keanu!

    2 & 3 were a waste, please dont bother with a 4 and 5.. too much had changed for the sequels from the original movie, and the list is far too long for a comment!

  16. MinionZero
    Unhappy

    I like all 3 films, so I can't wait to see Matrix 4 & 5.

    I know the Matrix isn't for everyone, but then if you don't like it, you don't have to watch it.

    But what gets me is that with almost every announcement of a sequel these days; we have an endless barrage of bile from naysayers, determined to imply that they have a superior more refined artistic view of what makes a great film. Its very much as if these critics love the feeling of pretending they are so superior and so we end up with them seeking to undermine a film they haven't even seen yet!

    1. Sarah Bee (Written by Reg staff)

      Re: I like all 3 films, so I can't wait to see Matrix 4 & 5.

      Critics sometimes *are* superior, you know.

      I just don't care much about sequels if they're no good. I do not acknowledge them. In my head there are only two Indiana Jones films. I don't give any thought to the other two (the last one made me CROSS so I have decided not to accept it into my brain).

      1. Greg J Preece

        I do exactly that!

        "I just don't care much about sequels if they're no good. I do not acknowledge them."

        I know exactly what you mean. There are only two Terminator movies, after all.

        That said - and I know I'm going to get shouted at for this - Matrix Revolutions is my favourite of the live action Matrix movies. Not for the stupid ending, oh no, but for three very simple reasons:

        1) Matrix 3 has the least amount of Keanu Reeves in it

        2) I thought the Battle for Zion was a very enjoyable action segment. Mechs, bazookas, mines, 250 000 squiddies. Oh yesh.

        3) Matrix 3 has the least amount of Keanu Reeves in it

        But then again, my absolute favourite part of the Matrix saga is the Animatrix. Some of those shorts, especially The Second Renaissance, were superior to all three live action movies.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Stop

          Me too

          I've never quite understood why people say 2 & 3 were so bad.

          I thought they were pretty good.

          Problem is, the first film was so cool and fresh, how could you ever top it?

      2. peyton?
        Happy

        Don't forget

        "Remastered" originals - now with content randomly added! *glares in George Lucas's direction*

        Still, I must confess to liking the second Matrix. Sure, there are the boring bits before the car chase scene, and some more boring stuff after... but that's a great car chase scene.

        Techno spiked with the roar of a Ducati is a win for me.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        @Sarah Bee

        Just curious, which of the first three don't you like?

        1. Sarah Bee (Written by Reg staff)

          Re: @Sarah Bee

          The crap one, obviously.

    2. Aaron Em

      And sometimes you just know a movie's going to suck

      Did you make the same arguments in defense of Battlefield Earth? If not, why don't you and your rather peculiar tastes go enjoy a movie everybody else on the planet loathed, and leave us all to the snark we so enjoy in the middle of a workday afternoon?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Happy

        Re: Aaron

        Oh my ahahaha - Battlefield Earth :)

        Thanks for the reminder, I keep a selection of horror movies (not horror as in scary but horror as in horrible) and have been meaning to add that one to my hall of shame. Keanu and Nicholas Cage seems to be in the majority of them but I've always just chalked that up to coincidence.

        Really bad b-movies work better for me than most other solutions for insomnia.

  17. Fluffykins Silver badge

    OK: Title?

    The Matrix: The Reboot?

    The Matrix Rebooted

    The Matrix: What does this button do?

    The Matrix: Don't.....Oh shit.

    1. Darryl

      OR

      The Matrix has performed an illegal operation and must be terminated. Do you want to report this problem to Microsoft?

    2. peyton?
      Heart

      Given that some sequels should never be made

      I vote for

      The Matrix: Patch Tuesday

    3. Neil B

      re: Title?

      The Matrix: Please Don't Press That Button Again

    4. The Sod Particle
      Joke

      or..

      The Matrix: Have you tried turning it off and back on again?

    5. sT0rNG b4R3 duRiD

      The Matrix: Rooted

      Of course, our antipodean readers will tell you this has other connotations as well...

  18. JDX Gold badge

    Fun to swear in serious articles?

    It's a shame they didn't manage to time a Matrix film to come out before Avatar... the first film was ground-breaking and if they transferred that to 3D before it was widely used, they could have repeated that feat.

    1. Aaron Em

      No

      If they'd tried to transfer The Matrix to 3D instead, they'd have killed off 3D cinema for the next decade or two, that's all -- did you see 'Alice'? There's an example of a movie that was made in 2D and then converted to 3D in post-production, and that's why it looks like crap. And The Matrix has all that flow-motion and special wire effects stuff, there's no way it would've come out looking any way but terrible, and all that would've done was made people come out of the theater going "Oh yeah! 3D sucks!" They needed a movie like Avatar, custom-made to take advantage of every possible corner of the format, in order to convince people 3D was worth any attention at all. (After all, when it's cropped up about once a decade and been shot down again just about as quickly, it's not a surprise when people start to get cynical about the whole idea.)

    2. Aaron Em

      And if it's "serious articles" you want...

      ...then the Reg is not the place to be; the humorless rarely survive. (And anyway, is the guy who "just reads it for the articles" really who you want to be?)

  19. Jon Double Nice
    Coat

    The only way this can work

    Is if they use Vic Reeves, rather than Keanu Reeves.

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