Superslim iPhone 4 enough to fend off Android?

Exactly

Quite agree. I think the wireless 'consultancy' that claims to have authored this drivel is aptly named here. They need a rethink themselves.

Every article I have read from someone who has actually seen the screen says it's amazing. So, it's not acronym compliant by not being AMOLED. But other than giving geeks a hard on, is AMOLED actually fit for purpose yet? From what I've seen, I don't think so. Pretty much unusable outside, and the Nexus One uses dodgy pentile sub pixels, and thus isn't really giving the high resolution it's pretending too. The high pixel density, good contrast of IPS panels (close to AMOLED), zero air gap and usability outside for me are much better than some fancy acronym.

Have to agree that the EVO sales snafu is amusing!

Android's nice enough. And it's doing okay in certain sectors (like the lower end of the market populated by this magic age group the author talks about). You can bet they'll all get iPhones when they can afford one!

Oh, and do most smartphones really have front facing cameras? Last time I checked, only the EVO and certain Symbian phones had one. And most of those Symbian phones aren't really smartphones, just jumped up feature phones with no touchscreen or keyboard.

And somebody who thinks they're a technology consultant is still buying into the megapixel myth? How about taking a look at the size of the pixels on the iPhone 4 sensor, or the fact that it uses a back illuminated sensor. These things matter far more than megapixels. Or put it another way, show me a high megapixel Moto Droid photo, and then try and explain why it's much worse than a low pixel count iPhone 3GS photo.

And finally, where did Rethink get their data from stating that Android is doing better internationally than in the States? All the data I've seen is to the contrary.

As far as opinion goes, this was the opinion of an idiot.

You noticed...

The piece where it says "Opinion" rather than "Review" then?

Cameras

You've just partially written what I was about to post;

CAMERAS

If you want to tell me specs, then tell me more than MegaPixels.

MP means absolutely F*ck all to Image Quality

Whats the sensor size?

Whats the ISO range?

Whats the point in having a 12 MegaPixel camera if the sensor is so small and the ISO Range so poor that everything in grainy? I could print a Picture on the side of a house with a high enough pixel count, but why would I want to if the picture is shite?????

My little gripe for the day, and one I'm sure I'll repeat (yet again) in the future

On the subject of results...

Apple might "focus on results" but those results are shoddy. That's the

real problem here. A diverse group of Android competitors means that

there will be a device to cater for every user. It won't merely be the Apple

centric one-size-fits-all approach. This approach is a problem for computers

and it will become a problem for mobile devices.

At best, the camera in a 3GS phone merely sucks less.'

It's a poor thing to fixate on.

The "Apple focuses on results" rhetoric rings hollow when you consider how

poor it's basic media support is and what a bother getting it onto the device

can be.

re: battery life

So... they made the battery bigger, and reduced the power consumption of the overall chipset. That's not prioritising power?...

AMOLED wouldn't give the "prettiness" of the iPhone display. Take your Nokia N8 outdoors into bright sunshine and spot the difference.

Besides, Apple allegedly approached Samsung for an AMOLED technology and found their supply capability to be limiting.

Battery life - AMOLED

Actually AMOLED doesn't consume less power, if you were to display a mainly white screen then power draw is actually 10 times that of LCD TFT.

So I think Apple have actually done there homework here.

The life of AMOLED is shorter as well in terms of colour brightness which starts to deteriate after 3000 hours.

Really?

Well, they've had two years to create an iPhone killer and still haven't managed it.

What makes you think that's changing now?

Android's nice enough, but the whole UX still doesn't match that of the iPhone.

Why Kill The iphone?

What iTards fail to understand Is that Android allows all the big boys to make iPhone killers very easilly.

But the real question is why kill the iphone, it has saved the smartphone market. HTC, Sony Erricson, Windows had done nothing with smartphone technology, (and dont get me started on the tiny pen we had to work with) only the Tech boys used them as the general public soon got board with that. The smart phone market was almost dead when enter stage left Apple and its OS.

So Joan of arc and apple have something in common?

Apple OS gave smart phones to the masses. Just go into a pub or any public place and see how many are out there, Yes Sony HTC and the others can produce a better spec phone, but why did they wait until now to pull their fingers out?

Software, its nice to get all my software for my phone from one site, Im not sure about the others but this works for me and it takes the guess work out finding software the old fashioned way. New phone looks nice, but nothing new just old tech used right.

I could go on but its boring now.

Desire

+1

Epic phone. Played with the 3GS for about 20 minutes before ordering the Desire and I'm sure I made the right choice.

Slimmer, "better" screen (I've yet to see it) and a gyro... <sarcasm>wow</sarcasm>

The Desire IS the iPhone with more options, freedom and power. Apple have 12 more months on top then it's the turn of the Android.

Moto

Well it was for the RAZR!

@ Brian

"Jobs even addressed this in the keynote by describing how they made the pixels bigger to help maintain image quality."

Maybe you should go back and rewatch the keynote. Jobs boasted that they kept the pixels the SAME SIZE, *NOT* bigger.

I'll agree that megapixels aren't everything. dSLRs are long safe from being replaced by a phone anyways.

Step out of your back yard for a moment

Almost every smart phone in UK since 2004 has had a front facing camera. The real issue is that nobody wants to make video calls. Its just the USA that lags behind in network features because you have such a fragmented and under invested infrastructure.

The original premise of 3 network in UK was all about video calling, now its never mentioned.

The real power of Apple is to popularise a feature that nobody ever cared about before. If they can make video calling de rigueur then it will benefit the whole industry. [Perhaps not the consumer in any way]

...doubt it though

Not 'techies'

Photographers and camera geeks know better, regular IT techies don't.

Fail Fail

Consumers care about how slim it is when it's in their hand. From the pictures it seems to be noticably thinner.

Video calling will 'help' if Apple can make it popular, sure the EVO can do it but does anyone use it? Think about how many people outside of geeks knew anything about MP3 before the iPod, not many. Apple made digital music popular and mainstream and if they can do that with video calling I expect a lot of this kind of conversation:

I need a phone that can do video calls!

You've already got one.

No I don't, this one's old and busted.

No, see that little black dot on the front of the phone? That's a camera.

Oh. I did not know that.

And suggesting that the iPhone 4 may have WiFi problems because of a swamped network suggests more than a little bias.