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Fox has announced that it's terminated The Sarah Connor Chronicles after two series, the Hollywood Reporter reports. The Terminator spin-off, starring Brit thesp Lena Headey, had evidently failed to deliver audience bangs-per-buck. Fox entertainment president Kevin Reilly explained: "It was not an inexpensive show. We looked …

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  1. fishman

    Only show I watched

    It was the only show I watched on TV, and my 15 year old daughter likes the show so much that she bought the first season DVDs - the only DVDs she owns.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    RE:Only show I watched

    "she bought the first season DVDs"

    And that, my friend is where Fox makes the real money.

    Do what fans did with family guy. Buy the DVDs.

  3. Name
    Coat

    shame

    fox are notoriously short sighted - just look what happened to futurama

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Black Helicopters

    Computer says what?

    When pressed by TVGuide.com as to whether the cinematic release later this week of Terminator Salvation might make Skynet reconsider, it insisted The Human Race "has completed its run - and I think it had a nice little run".

  5. Chris Simmons
    Unhappy

    Foxing bastards

    I don't think there's any point my trying to ever watch an american sci-fi series again; it's all about money rather than providing entertainment. Bloody murdick.

  6. Roger Garner

    Sadly to be expected...

    Decent show, but it was on Fox... dead cert to be canceled before its time.

  7. Goatan
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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

    Please don't leave me with Terninator salvation, its going to suck balls!!

  8. Andy Lamb
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    Cancelled?

    Why does the Futurama "Bender's Big Score" opening come to mind (Albeit without sabres chopping off accountants heads)?

    The series, even when off on a tangent, was more enjoyable than the tripe of T3. Here's hoping Salvation doesn't continue the film's trendline in craptacularness

  9. HFoster
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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    "You're terminated, fucker!"

    :(

    I don't watch a lot of TV, but I adored this show, even when it was going down questionable plot routes.

  10. John Baker
    Paris Hilton

    Sack the writers....

    After the whole writers strike screwed up this and other series it does make you wonder if the studios were right for not paying them much.

    Heroes was even worse, great first series. 2nd series makes Terminator look amazing compared to that drawn out, long-winded excuse for a tv program. I like Heroes don't get me wrong but they were cheap in the 2nd series. Poor writing coming from the US at the minute in MHO and many I've talked with agree.

    I'm switching to Dextor, Chuck & The Unit. Thankfully they are yet to suffer if at all!

  11. Robb Dunphy

    Ah damn

    It was actually one of the few decent shows out there at this time. What is it with Fox cancelling decent shows? Firefly, Terminator, and all they keep pumping out is more bloody simpsons (which is long in the tooth and terrible to be quite honest).

    Let's just hope the new trilogy of Terminator movies (starting next month) are able to make up for it.

  12. Frizz
    Paris Hilton

    IQ issue

    I think the main issue was..it required a bit of mental input to watch, hence it's decline. At the end of the day, no brainers win every time. Now if it had been fly on the wall, or titled 'big brothers terminator chronicles' it would have grabbed 70% of the ratings!!

    Paris...coz u know Arnie would be back!

  13. Andrew Garrard
    Go

    Again with the Fox and the good SF shows...

    So, they renewed Dollhouse (with a reduced budget; all hail Joss, but it's still allegedly not very good - find out tonight!), Fringe (unless it got much better in the second half season, awful - I gave up shortly after the giant alien suppository episode) and Lie to Me (appears to be like The Mentalist, but a bit more obvious), and killed this. After *that* season finale? (And Smallville's still going?)

    If the second season were out on disc yet over here, I'd have bought it by now; it's going on my blu-ray shopping list as soon as Sony drop the price of the PS3.

    I know it got bankrolled a bit by Terminator: Salvation. I'll be very pleased if there's a tie-in moment. I'll be even more pleased if another studio picks it up for another season. Come on Sky, we need a replacement for BSG. I doubt Caprica counts.

    I can't understand how this didn't get better ratings. I wish, at least, they'd give these shows enough of a heads-up to finish off their story lines when they cancel them. When you tell a story, you have a contract with the viewer that you're going to explain things - as Lost has found out - and it's really rude to leave things up in the air. Would you cancel 24 after 12 hours? They need to find a better way, or people are going to give up on watching series with long plot arcs (i.e. the good ones) out of frustration.

    RIP T:tSCC. (And Veronica Mars. And Firefly. And BtVS/Angel.)

    [Go, because it shouldn't have been stopped.]

  14. stu
    Stop

    bumer

    I just finished watching the last of series 2 there... bloody cliff hanger an aw. erse.

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ratings

    So they looked at the ratings and cancelled it because the trend line.....(snip).

    Thats Apple Computer under John Scully type thinking. The only way they will have a big success is if they have a HUGE success and don't mess it up too much.

  16. Terry Pears
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    Fox'ed again

    And yet they're giving Dollhouse another year, citing allegedly strong "future" DVD sales, Hulu views (also owned by News Corp)... maybe Fox are just wanting to avoid completely pissing off Joss Whedon and avoid another repeat of the Firefly effect.

    Thank the gods Fox didn't do BSG, now they would have constantly tinkered, shifted the timeslots and axed it after 1 season because they didn't like it anymore.

    Idiots.

  17. DirkGently
    Joke

    Maybe...

    Maybe it would have faired better if the lead actor had got banged up for drink-driving.

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It seems...

    that miss Glau has had a bout of bad luck with Fox... (after Serenity and now this..)

    Personally I am a fan of both Firefly and Terminator, Sarah Connor Chronichles, they are good shows...

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Unhappy

    Shame

    It was a good series, shame they had to can it, particulaly with the movie coming out they could have really cashed in.

  20. Psymon
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    Fox are completely clueless

    Run purely by beancounters, they disapoint with such consistancy it's not even funny anymore.

    The long-standing joke that is Fox has well and truly run its course, and should be cancelled.

  21. Martin Lyne
    Flame

    Fox

    Nobody is going to end up watching any of their shows BECAUSE THEY NEVER GET A FULL RUN AND THERE IS NEVER ANY RESOLUTION.

    When will they accept that good sci-fi will never have massive ratings, they should just produce it becuase they aim to serve more than just the lowest common denominator. Perhaps by putting the shows on they would actually generate more interest. Or if they had a pay-per-episode service for the whole world to use.

    Why don't the BBC spend some of my goddamn money making decent sci-fi? DOCTOR WHO DOESN'T COUNT.

    It'll be ages before the next Hamilton or Banks book is released

  22. Pete Silver badge

    was it the acting or the writing?

    Having watched this, the story of the Parson's egg comes to mind. Some episodes were very good (though, apart from the last ones, I'd be hard-pressed to name them) and others were pretty dire. I couldn't help feeling that whoever sold these series had worked out the beginning and the end, but didn't really have much idea how to fill in all the episodes in the middle.

    To that end, there was much irrelevant stuff, lots of samey relentless persuits in series #1, dead-end stories and (frankly) filler episodes. I got the distinct impression that the writers were being given "turns" at coming up with stories - and that some were so self-indulgent that they played no part in the story as a whole.

    Having said that, there was not much in the acting that made the series stand out. Although Arnie could carry off the "wooden" approach, some of these guys took the style to new lows. Strangely, it was the robots who appeared most human at times, and also (by design or talent, or simply by accident - who can say) came up with some of the best lines.

  23. CockKnocker
    Unhappy

    i liked it!

    Byebye sarah cronner cronicles, the ending of series 2 really made me wanna see the next series!

    And I especially liked the foxy terminator (summer glau), she could throw me around any day ;)

    The movie should be cool, but by making it a 12A its gonna be like the 1st AvP film - Pants.

  24. michael
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    fox dose it again

    what do they have against summer galu

    + I will never get to find out what was the deal with jhon henry addms and that female t1000

    all in all big fail fox

  25. Rob
    Unhappy

    GUTTED!

    Flippin Amecs and their flippant TV watching, bloody FOX do this far too often.

    I liked it, a lot, like fishman, was the only thing I begged for space on the Sky+ from my wife. Meant there was one less space for all that reality-car-crash-TV tripe.

    Wish they wouldn't leave them on cliff hangers, especially when there could be doubt on whether it will carry on running for another series. They need to round it off as there series has left it with a complete change in the timeline of gigantic proportions (plus I want to see them develop the 'Rebel Terminator' faction).

    :(

  26. Sarah Bee (Written by Reg staff)

    Re: Sadly to be expected...

    Peter: “Well, unfortunately, Lois, there’s just no more room on the schedule. We’ve just got to accept the fact that Fox has to make room for terrific shows like Dark Angel, Titus, Undeclared, Action, That ’80s Show, Wonderfalls, Fastlane, Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Skin, Girls Club, Cracking Up, The Pitts, Firefly, Get Real, Freakylinks, Wanda at Large, Costello, The Lone Gunmen, A Minute With Stan Hooper, Normal Ohio, Pasadena, Harsh Realm, Keen Eddie, The $treet, American Embassy, Cedric the Entertainer, The Tick, Louie and Greg the Bunny.”

    Lois: “Is there no hope?”

    Peter: “Well, I suppose if all those shows go down the tubes, we might have a shot.”

  27. Geeks and Lies
    Thumb Up

    I care so little for this show...

    ... it makes me dizzy!

  28. Aaron

    ratings fail?

    This was one of the shows that everyone in work talked about, I loved it. I often wonder with shows like this how the big studio's are measuring the ratings and if its really an accurate way to determine if a show is really being watching that much.

    While Im not saying it was the best show ever, far better show's have been axed for just the same reason's. Over the last few years every show I've liked has got axed, every show I cant stand wont watch and wont buy/pay anything for seams to go on and on. Im not saying my personal taste's reflect the world's but when everyone I talk to miss's the show's I liked I wonder if target audiences are not being counted correctly.

  29. Leslie Greenhalgh
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    Fox cancel a great sci-fi series before it's time?

    Surely some mistake.

    Les G

  30. Sarah Bee (Written by Reg staff)

    Re: ratings fail?

    Your apostrophes make Moderatrix cry.

  31. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It never stood a chance

    It really wasnt a terminator show which is where it failed. The average Terminator fan would of been turned off by its slow pace and lack of action and people who dont like Terminator stuff wouldnt watch it because it had Terminator in the title.

    Its main failing though is it had 3 key characters, John Connor who we all know cant die, Sarah Connor who had her name in the title so she wasnt going to die in a hurry, and Cameron who was a cyborg and if she did die future John could just send another sex bot back to keep his adolescence self warm at night. At first these three were trying to stop judgement day, which we know cant be stopped, by finding a computer that can play chess really well while being chased by a terminator that had no chance of killing them (so distraught was this terminator at its lack of success it gave up and started singing nursery rhymes to a ginger kid). Now its been fairly obvious since the first film that the evil terminator sent back isnt going to win but at least in the movies they have the budget to blow shit up and Skynet was a bit more sinister than your average pc

  32. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge

    @Only show I watched

    I hope that was sardonic.

  33. Youngdog
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    This has caused outrage..

    over on the boards at AICN.

    http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/41107

    Sign up today and YOU TOO can discover the joy of being insulted by an illiterate teenager!

    Actually, there ARE some boards over there that are populated by decent folk - you just have to know where to look.

    no mods, swearing is compulsory and bannings are a regular occurrence.

    To summarise my post there (don't read if you watch but haven't seen it all) - this programme was just getting good but series 2 finale was a great conclusion to the story. All of Sarah's efforts were in vain and a lot of innocent people died for nothing. It turns out that John never WAS that important and the future resistance was born anyway with someone else taking the lead.

  34. Adam T
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    RIP

    Gone the way of Firefly and Invasion (although not as good as either IMO). RIP.

    To be replaced no doubt by another CSI knock-off.

  35. Anonymous Coward
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    I'm still pissed about Atlantis being over

    ...not that I can blame that one on Fox.

    Never got into SC chronicles. It must have been good though or it wouldn't have been canceled. (being sincere)

  36. The Fuzzy Wotnot
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    Money, money, money!

    If you ain't pulling in the wonga your career ain't going anywhere! Same with the music biz, no one gets a chance to prove they can do something anymore. The media companies pander to the brain-dead, beer-swilling, BB watching lowlifes who consider opening a packet of crisps to be an intellectual challenge!

    One day the media companies will get their cumuppence when all these cottage industry movie and music producers start out selling the mass-produced tripe that is being force-fed to people.

  37. Oz
    Joke

    @ Sarah Bee

    He's got one right so stop being so picky and over-sensitive! Really!

  38. jai

    it wouldn't be so annoying...

    but Fox do seem to get a lot of decent shows - and then they cancel them just as their fanbase really gets going

    but is it Fox that is to blame? They are, afterall, just watching their ratings

    surely the blame lies squarely with the american public for not knowing a good show when they see one - and then complaining AFTER it's axed instead of watching it when it's on telly

    if less people were capping these shows and up'ing them to the interwebz then people would have to watch the shows as they broadcast and so the ratings would be higher

  39. Lee Woods
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    Crazy.....

    Well that's cutting off your nose to spite your face. It may be expensive to make, but it's also very, very good, certainly one my and my elderly parents favourite shows. I guess the credit crunch is the real reason for it's demise, but it is a sad day.

  40. Paul
    Unhappy

    Fox cancels a show shock horror!

    Douchebags. Maybe they just don't like Summer Glau and cancel everything she's in.

  41. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    cancelled???

    I really enjoyed the show. I even managed to get my room mate to watch it and she's into reality shows and has even bought the 'flavor of love' dvds (I will admit the show is funny, but I hope I never meet any woman like the ones on that show). Now, I'm going to be left with 'The big bang theory' and no Summer Glau. This sucks as much as the last few episdoes of BSG and Caprica (and the story had such potential)!!!

  42. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Wotta shame

    This was a genuinely decent show, though with a little too much moping.

  43. Chris Hunt

    Swapsies

    Any chance we could get Fox to do Last of the Summer Wine? Not for long, obviously...

  44. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    One reason for cancellation

    Is that the Terminator franchise isn't owned by Fox, so even if the series does well on DVD they don't see much income. Dollhouse is a fully owned property, so strong DVD sales will add to Fox's bottom line.

    I've seen both and after a rough start, Dollhouse is the better series (IMHO). I really don't see where people get the impression TSCC had a particularly deep story; it was good on occasion, but rarely anything to write home about.

  45. Yorkshirepudding
    Stop

    robo-execs

    im fondly remembering this from an episode of futurama there was a robot tv exec who rolled dice to decide schedules

    damn you fox, damn you all to hell

  46. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    Que?

    Astonishing how many people "Don't watch much television but...." have expensive satellite/cable subscriptions!

  47. Pete Silver badge

    @Youngdog

    > discover the joy of being insulted by an illiterate teenager

    You don't have to sign up to a particular site for that - pretty much anywhere on the internet will do.

  48. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Que?

    I don't watch much TV but I need the expensive satellite subscription to keep my wife happy.

    At the end of Season 2 it was clear that there would be no third season. All the loose ends were tied up, most of the main characters dead and there was very little possibility of returning to "the present" to continue the story arc.

    The end of Season 2 did feel very very rushed though, reminded me of how Twin Peaks ended.

  49. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    Re moderatrix apostrophe's

    Shouldnt you give you're inner pedan't a break?

    It was clear what he meant, so whats' the problem?

    Isle Bee bach...

  50. Inachu
    Flame

    TOTAL IDIOTS!!!

    Your neilsen rating system or what ever they use totally sucks!

    I always watched the show and if I did miss it then I watched it on HULU.

    Duhhh did you ever think of tracking hulu viewership? Did you track total viewrship using all data sources?

    Fox needs to be taken out back and shot.

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