Police ad urges: 'Trust no one'

No, but seriously..

"Ibrahim and a number of co-defendants: they had used hydrogen peroxide"

First photographers, now hair stylists feel the wrath of the government's security clampdown. Who shall be next, I wonder?

Missed a qualifier

The whole line is "Trust no one; Especially us."

Jacqui Smith Talking Up Terror

And on telly today, Jacqui Smith is talking up terror.

It's a bit of a "suspicious" coincidence, isn't it? Sounds like a co-ordinated effort: government and police gearing up towards the G-20 protests.

It's time.

Armed revolution is only a few steps away.

Heard the ad in Swindon too

Though I think that was because Heart just took over our local station.

Heart FM sort out your ad targetting please! We don't want none of tha' there London nannying down 'ere ta!

During the war....

This really makes me uncomfortable.

I suspect the rozzers think they are appealing to our wartime spirit; working together to face a (greatly exaggerated) threat to us all.

However to me, and I suspect a lot of other Reg readers, it smells like the ugly bastard child of McCarthyism and the Stazi.

I'd emigrate, but I don't know where to go. US - f*ck no, Canada - too cold, Oz - firewall bobbins, NZ - too far from anywhere. Any ideas? English speaking only please, I'm too lazy to learn any foreign.

McCarthyism in the 21st Centruary

Sounds like Joseph McCarthy is alive and well here in the UK..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

...and all of it with a straight face too..

hmmm... talk about pot calling the kettle black...

Bunch of right wing nazis the police around my way and I dont mind who sees me say it. I have every right to.

So if I see some effete blokes in nice black and silver uniform dress with matching 'Deaths Head' accessories I'll be sure to call the local coppers....

Oh, wait.....

\Totenkopf... because its what they wear at home in front of the mirror when the wife and kids are out...

NAZIISM is rife

Lets see, spy on your neighbours, report them for suspicious behaviour and bin contents or even for entertaining strange people.

This is the law of decent which fuelled state killings much loved by communists and Nazis alike.

I do not like where this is taking us.

TRY A BIT OF PERSPECTIVE

I read somewhere that more peole die each year in the UK as a result of crashes than have been killed by terrorism throughout all recorded history.

Talk about scaremongring.

Agreed.

This whole 'photography is terrorist preparation' thing is more bollocks than I care to visualise thank you very much. A particular sore point in this paranoid age we live in.

Look at it this way - In the planning for the biggest terrorist attack of the 21st century, just how important to the whole process of flying those planes into the WTC was taking photos of them?

I mean they could have taken photos, but its not difficult to do so in a non-suspicious manner whatever that might be. Its not like major terrorist hotspots also double up as tourist zones or anything is it.

And if they did take photos for planning, just how would they compare to publicity photos put out by the tower owners in terms of effective aeroplane-to-tower targetting strategy? No comparison.

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Staring suspiciously at CCTV cams eh!? It surely must be a member of Al-Quaeda!

Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot...

At least they were honest about it.

Trust no one?

We don't trust the Police most of the time, so there's a start.

Modern technology has allowed a "feature-creep" for surveillance - people shouldn't be held in fear. Thats no democratic or free. Might as well be a dictator, least you know where you stand.

So it starts...

"Trust no one! Your neighbour could be a raving loony revolutionary! Report them today for cash prizes!"

Jesus, not this old crap about making bombs at home! I can go to any Superdrug shop or garden centre and get all the bits I need to make weapons, then down to the library for a GCSE physics revision guide for the instructions. I don't need the combined might of the Black September to help me start irradicating whatever section of society is getting on my wick today!

Tell you one mob we should be bleedin' trust anymore, bloody Wacky J and that one-eyed, knocked-kneed Scots pillock!

If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny

Honestly - empowering people to anonymously (because surely that's what confidential means?) report people for having a bag of lawn feed (Faisal of Croydon, you with the green lawn, you're under arrest) is simply a joke.

With no training, access to some PDF posters and sound-bytes coming at you from your radio, everyone who's anyone will be calling up to report people who've pissed them off in a significant manner in the last week or two.

Taxis - cutting people up will mean you're labelled a terrorist, your DNA is on file and you have to prove you're not. Tourists - don't you dare wheel your heavy luggage along the road, stopping to take pictures as you go along. You'll be locked up and the key thrown away. Anyone not white in the wrong place at the wrong time will be reported by the BNP.

You get the idea......

Or, actually, nobody will call in as apathy and ignorance will overwhelm them. Here's hoping - after all, the danger from those in power is now far more of a threat and more likely to impact us today than a terror plot.

Its the First rule....

of a Police State.... Suspect Everyone!

*\. Yep! I'm Against them!

Know your rights

Straight from the (corrupt) horses mouth:

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/police/powers/stop-and-search/

Note the bit on not having to surrender personal details. This is a point almost ALL officers fail to mention. Also, most stop-and-searches are carried out "on the record" meaning although they are not supposed to, very often officers record the details for holding on file.

If you are stop-and-search'ed, inform the officer of your rights and assert that you're not up for any unlawful conduct on their part.

-- Richard

Is that Mad Eye Mooney?

I believe "trust no one" was one of his lines.

And he was nabbed when someone was banging around in his dustbins.

But Voldemort is out of office now, so why are we still worried about the Death Eaters?

Bootnote - Cynical but true...

Its the same as police seizing cameras and the like. Police; a law unto themselves....

Anon for obvious reasons. Sure El Reg will have to comply with a data request very shortly.....

and report all suspicious activities to Big Brother

It time for the kids to shop their parents again.

Oh happy days

Not Just the Met

Its a nationwide thing, I keep hearing the ads on national radio. "This is the sound of a bomb not going off".

I do find the whole thing extremely worrying, we never had this Stasi style "Citizens, your neighbour might be a terrorist, report them to us, and sleep soundly at night" sort of attitude when the IRA were running round the place blowing people up. Why are Muslim fundamentalists more dangerous than the IRA? Or is this simply a way of using fear to move us into a police state?

@AC 12:44

Spot on. I already don't trust anything senior to a police constable (most of whom, in my experience, are actually quite decent and normal people); after this nasty little utterance I shall regretfully have to extend my distrust down to them too.

Oh, and I'll stop loking "suspiciously" at snooping CCTV cameras when there are none to look suspiciously at. They are, after all, the tools of those who are destroying our quality of life, and the perfect indicator of the authorities' complete absence of trust in *us*.

That do yer, copper?

Mine's the one studded with high power IREDs.

staring "suspiciously" at CCTV cameras

What? They want to ban one of the simple pleasures I have left? Am I freaking them out by staring at the camera? Good. Tossers.

"doing what is necessary to protect the public in dangerous times"

A bit like VIKI in I, Robot.

Fucking scaremongers.

Paranoia?

Isn't it "Stay Alert. Trust no-one. And keep your T^Hlaser handy"?

Be careful...

Don't forget that terrorists have been known to disguise themselves in the uniforms of public servants, so be doubly-suspicious of anyone in a uniform asking questions or taking an interest in their surroundings.and the doings of members of the public.

And then go remind the police what "public servants" is actually supposed to mean.

@Cameron Colley

If you report a true crime to the police more often than not nothing will be done about it as in the past year me and a few people i know have had to report crime to the police but nothing was ever done after the report was filed, they did not even contact me or the other people back to follow up or inform us the case had been dropped but as the article says report your neighbour for having too many hair products in there bin and the terrorist police will be round to kick the door in on there lovely over-time.

Trust noone

You don't want me to trust anyone? OK, well, I guess I'll start with the police then.

@ censored

"Armed revolution isn't far away"

I think you misunderstand, they took away our guns long ago. Much easier to control an unarmed population isn't it.

Trust no-one

"Police ad urges: 'Trust no one'"... Indeed - especially not Wacky Jacqui and her cronies.

Ratting on your neighbours was quite popular in the Second World War. The "perps" were taken away, without trial, and mostly killed. Here we are in 2009 doing pretty much the same thing - innocent people being held without trial or recourse, and it f**king stinks. At least the majority won't be killed, but there's always time.

@MarkyW

That NZ is a long way from anywhere is part of the attraction. As is that the foreign policy is to all intents and purposes non aligned so the only people who hate us are the Aussies when we beat them at something. The terrorists will be shooting lots of other people long before they get to me with my nice black passport. A very much more free society than here too. Soon as I figure out how to earn a decent crust I'm off back in a flash.

Hello, police?

I'd like to report a strange man dressed in blue with a tall funny hat. He's staring at passers-by in a suspicious manner and he gives me a bad feeling. He's even *armed* with a nasty looking billy-club and he could be one of those SM types cause I noticed he's carrying what look suspiciously like restraints.

I'll bet he's just looking for some young girl that catches his fancy...better send somebody round pretty quick before something really bad goes down.

See? :) What's more suspicious than that?

Spoiler tactics

Recently I've thought of staring at CCTV cameras, especially the ones in public spaces. Sounds a bit looney but if lots of people did it - point and stare- it might just make the operatives really really pissed off.

I've also thought we should all take lots more pictures - most people now have camera phones so it's easy. At the end of the day you can delete them. Having your phone keylock turned on will prevent any Dibble looking and/or deleting pictures should you be 'approached'.

And at demos/riots I think it's essential that as many people as possible record the events and upload them to the interweb ASAP.

It's also worth remembering that most phones are quite reasonable voice recorders too, a little less obvious than video.... You could even leave it on in your top pocket while talking to plod...

Just a suggestion - 'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?'

Nothing to hide nothing to fear.

Anyone exposing the contents of their bin to their neighbours clearly has "nothing to hide" and QED, cannot be a terrorist.

If the public are being asked to watch the people watching the cameras, what are the cameras for?

Report Thy Neighbour?

When I rumage through my neighbours bin he gives me funny looks and I've seen him eyeing my CCTV in an odd way

Should I report him once or multiple times? If I find another odd bleach bottle in his rubbish which takes precedence?

A scared pulic need to know

All praise Jacqui, all hail the motherland